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		<title>By: I-90 Move Just the Latest - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2007/09/10/why-argue-real-points-when-you-can-attack-strawmen/#comment-39536</link>
		<dc:creator>I-90 Move Just the Latest - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] passed, the Central Puget Sound taxpayers would be taxing themselves to pay for the state roads (among others) in their area. If the measure failed, transit opponents would paint the failure as Sound [...]</description>
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		<title>By: El Guapo</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2007/09/10/why-argue-real-points-when-you-can-attack-strawmen/#comment-4051</link>
		<dc:creator>El Guapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also an Atlanta resident and also found this post through searching for information on MARTA ridership.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;MARTA is about to disclose ridership figures for 2008 showing a whopping 60% year over year increase in ridership. Gwinnett county is going to the polls to vote in a referendum on July 15 on whether to expand the MARTA rail system into Gwinnett. This was a measure defeated in the distant past but expected to pass in a landslide this time around.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Finally, I am a former drive-alone commuter now taking the train to work every day. I love it. I wish I had done it long ago.</description>
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I&#8217;m also an Atlanta resident and also found this post through searching for information on MARTA ridership.</p>
<p>MARTA is about to disclose ridership figures for 2008 showing a whopping 60% year over year increase in ridership. Gwinnett county is going to the polls to vote in a referendum on July 15 on whether to expand the MARTA rail system into Gwinnett. This was a measure defeated in the distant past but expected to pass in a landslide this time around.</p>
<p>Finally, I am a former drive-alone commuter now taking the train to work every day. I love it. I wish I had done it long ago.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2007/09/10/why-argue-real-points-when-you-can-attack-strawmen/#comment-3862</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny that this article is almost a year old, but had a recent post, and now I find it, whilst researchign some numbers on Atlanta&#039;s MARTA system. I am a new Atlanta resident, having moved here from out of state and now live in Midtown, only a couple blocks from the Art Center MARTA station.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;According to MARTA&#039;s &#039;07 press release, they ended FY07 with a budget SURPLUS for the second year in a row, with ridership up 6.6% overall and up 12.2% on the rail system alone&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With gas prices in central Atlanta, as of today,  May 29, well over $4/gallon, I expect the FY08 report will again show a surplus, and from the people around me, I believe that public sentiment is growing towards expansion of the rail system.</description>
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It&#8217;s funny that this article is almost a year old, but had a recent post, and now I find it, whilst researchign some numbers on Atlanta&#8217;s MARTA system. I am a new Atlanta resident, having moved here from out of state and now live in Midtown, only a couple blocks from the Art Center MARTA station.</p>
<p>According to MARTA&#8217;s &#8217;07 press release, they ended FY07 with a budget SURPLUS for the second year in a row, with ridership up 6.6% overall and up 12.2% on the rail system alone</p>
<p>With gas prices in central Atlanta, as of today,  May 29, well over $4/gallon, I expect the FY08 report will again show a surplus, and from the people around me, I believe that public sentiment is growing towards expansion of the rail system.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2007/09/10/why-argue-real-points-when-you-can-attack-strawmen/#comment-2460</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually some things are not true in this article.  I lived in Atlanta.  Marta rail ridership has always meet ridership numbers.  Marta carries 500,000+ riders daily (bus and rail) in the service area of 1.5 million.      The rail ridership is about half the daily ridership.  It is true the Marta transit system is not comprehensive enough and Seattle public transit is better. There is no land planning and quite a bit of poltics in transit.  Only 2 counties both in the Marta ridership district out of 11 have public transit ridership of any significance.  Trains in Seattle will certainly work since Atlanta which has less density is seeing good ridership numbers.</description>
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Actually some things are not true in this article.  I lived in Atlanta.  Marta rail ridership has always meet ridership numbers.  Marta carries 500,000+ riders daily (bus and rail) in the service area of 1.5 million.      The rail ridership is about half the daily ridership.  It is true the Marta transit system is not comprehensive enough and Seattle public transit is better. There is no land planning and quite a bit of poltics in transit.  Only 2 counties both in the Marta ridership district out of 11 have public transit ridership of any significance.  Trains in Seattle will certainly work since Atlanta which has less density is seeing good ridership numbers.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2007/09/10/why-argue-real-points-when-you-can-attack-strawmen/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knute Berger is almost funny once in a while.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2007/09/10/why-argue-real-points-when-you-can-attack-strawmen/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped reading Crosscut a while ago - I just stop by occasionally to see if they&#039;ve changed.  Their fact-checking is non-existent, their slant is quite far to the right, and their general goal seems to be sensationalism.  If a story gets a lot of comments you&#039;ll see another nearly identical story in a few days.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Matt the Engineer</description>
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I stopped reading Crosscut a while ago &#8211; I just stop by occasionally to see if they&#8217;ve changed.  Their fact-checking is non-existent, their slant is quite far to the right, and their general goal seems to be sensationalism.  If a story gets a lot of comments you&#8217;ll see another nearly identical story in a few days.</p>
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