February 20, 2008 at 10:42 am
by Nick L
This saddens me. The fact that 2 men would do such an awful thing to our transit systems here is ignorant. I hope these people are caught and have to pay for the cleanup bill. Although, I didn’t notice anything and I was on the orange car today. So I guess the company that removed the graffiti did a really good job.
February 20, 2008 at 8:08 am
by Martin H. Duke

Jonathan Golob — the most consistently intelligent writer on the Slog — has an exceptional post about why the oil supply will rise to meet demand. Uniquely for the Slog, the comment thread (including our very own Daimajin) is also well-informed and constructive. Daimajin had a similar post here last year.
As transit advocates, we sometimes get into the “peak oil” argument to attack car use — “gas is going to cost $10 a gallon!” For all the reasons Golob states, this is a bad way to go.
There are multiple strong arguments for transit: an environmental one, a national security one, and the simple fact that to add capacity to corridors, a light rail line is massively more cost-effective than triple-decking I-5. Scare stories about expensive gas is the wrong way to go; the only way gas is getting that expensive is if we regulate and tax the stuffing out of it.
And that’s something we want to do. The two ways to discourage car use are to make it less convenient and make it more expensive. Since closing roads isn’t going to happen for the most part, we need to prepare the ground for legislative action to increase the costs of driving. In this context, using expensive gas as some kind of boogeyman sets up exactly the wrong kind of reaction.
February 19, 2008 at 9:48 pm
by Andrew Smith
 Sound Transit has created a new survey to decide what to put on the ballot next time. Check out the mini-site and take the survey, so you can influence the proposal based on the workshop results from a few weeks ago. The survey closes March ninth.
February 19, 2008 at 8:08 pm
by Andrew Smith
The PI mentions the new street-car pre-boarding ticket machines, and Brian Bundridge even has a photo! Friday I’ll probably get down to SLU and check the machines out.
February 19, 2008 at 12:07 pm
by Brian Bundridge
Based off the cool unique design of the electronic parking meters around Seattle, the new Streetcar TVM’s make life much, much, MUCH easier for the commuter. With 6 installed along the line, the new Ticket Vending Machines make getting tickets for the Streetcar much easier. It accepts Visa, Mastercard and coins.
The TVM’s on-board the Streetcars are still there and still trouble-prone to $1 dollar bills but when they do work, except Paper Cash and Coins but not Credit Cards.

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February 19, 2008 at 11:39 am
by Brian Bundridge
While I don’t post too much political stuff on here, I couldn’t pass this up
Too beautiful:
Sound Transit 2 + Obama = a kind of progressive perfect storm.
Yes, the Little Engine that Could and the Obama campaign.
The train whose slogan is I-Think-I- Can and the campaign whose slogan is Yes We Can
Perfect
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February 19, 2008 at 11:19 am
by Brian Bundridge
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February 19, 2008 at 11:10 am
by Brian Bundridge
The Anderson Island Ferry Terminal is closed for a short period due to vandalism. No ETA for restored service.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/updates/story/287233.html
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February 19, 2008 at 1:06 am
by Andrew Smith
 The city will be revisiting SLU zoning soon, and they’ve got a few ideas, some based around transit oriented development (see the above).
Pretty good!
Thanks to HugeAssCity. What’s with profanity in Seattle Blog names?
February 18, 2008 at 4:27 pm
by Martin H. Duke
Metro’s looking at reworking their routes to points in the East County (Issaquah, North Bend, Fall City, Carnation, etc.)
If you live or work out there, you might want to send them a comment or attend the open house in Feb. 27. If you do, feel free to report on the open house in the comments.
February 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm
by Andrew Smith
A tipper sent this in: a land use application for an 11 story building with the streetcar barn in its basement. It’s currently a parking lot. The building would have 130,000 square feet of office to go along with the streetcar lot.
It’s nice to know that something is happening on that front, though I think that building won’t be built for a while, and the even then, they are waiting for the viaduct to be finished before we get that streetcar back.
February 18, 2008 at 11:20 am
by Brian Bundridge
I got an e-mail from an interesting user of the ferry system. While she wished not to be disclosed because of a pending article in another newspaper however she points out something that is interesting and which seemingly echoed a new article in today’s Kitsap Sun (Bottomed-Out Ferry System Looking to Bounce Back)
When I-695 passed, the Washington State Ferry system hit rock bottom with it’s funding. While the State did have a surplus of cash, improvements that were in the process of starting were put on hold or canceled, including the fast ferry service between Bremerton and Seattle along other fast ferry routes and four new ferries.
The lady that e-mailed me, commutes on the Bainbridge – Seattle 6 days a week, one of the days visiting friends and family on the main land. While it is expensive, she recalls times when the system was indeed much cheaper when I-695 was around. It is to be seen if things would be the same or changed if I-695 was never thought of but the fact that the system is highly degraded is enough to show the effects of the initiative and how the ferry and transit system remains to date.
While plenty of road and transit taxes have recovered from the effects of 695, the ferry system is system remains to drag along. The ferry system is the largest system used in the United States of America however it is the least funded and only select routes recover fare and make money (Seattle to Bainbridge Island)
My guest believes that in order for the ferry system to recover and function completely, a 5 to 7 cent tax for those ONLY in Kitsap County, Seattle, Vashon, the San Juan Islands, and the Olympic Pennisula should pay for the ferry services as those are the ones that use the system the most, State ran or not, food should be equal or greater on all boats where the run is greater than 25 minutes.
Should passenger only ferry service be on the States or even the Counties wish list? Certainly, as long as the distance covers the cost of the run. The best example was my in-depth study of the Snohomish on the Seattle to Port Townsend run which I still believe is an important route to have since it cuts down the drive 2 to 4 hour drive (depending on how backed up the Kingston to Edmonds is) to just 85 to 90 minutes on the Snohomish. I go into detail of just how much it would cost to make money and to break even.
http://watransportation.blogspot.com/2008/01/seattle-2-port-townsend-deeper-look.html
http://watransportation.blogspot.com/2008/01/number-crunching-port-townsend-seattle.html
In order to meet the expected demand for the next 10 to 15 years, we both agreed that we need to look at the following to meet up with demand.
San Juan Ferries – This run typically has 4 boats which are all approaching retirement age. These 4 boats need to be replaced soon. There should be at least 2 backup boats for this route but one would be work just as well.
Port Townsend – Keystone route needs 2 ferries running at all times and a minimum of 90 cars, especially during the Summer months where they could really get away using 150+ car ferries. The 30 minute crossing (including unload/load times) and one backup ferry.
Clinton – Mukilteo – While I have only been on the ferry 3 times, it is no surprise that the Issaquah 130 class boats currently on the run are not big enough to meet the growth now and in the future. The waiting area is good though and it’s short run makes it quick work of the cars waiting but a 150+ car boat would be best on this route. This run should have one backup which can be used on heavier known days. However in the interim…
These ferries operate are in serious need of some TLC, my ride on them yesterday was not impressive. New paint, a good wash to get the moss and other stuff growing on the windows is desperately needed. The lack of maintenance and torn seats were also a sign of what used to be a solid boat but now ran down and just pathetic. While the crossing is only 15 minutes, the entire run shouldn’t suffer, trust me, people notice.
Kingston – Edmonds – These are some of the newer boats and work good however WSF should consider running a 3rd ferry. While only a 25 minute crossing this route is commonly backed up 1 to 2 hours. Last summer on July 4th, there was a few times of the backups upwards of 3 hours. Super Jumbo Mark II class boats should be built for this run.
Bainbridge – Seattle – I love this route. The people, the scenery, the tourists, the Seagulls that flies with the boat when the weather is nice. Everything makes this route just excellent which is also one of the reasons why it is WSF’s highest patronized boat but again, the wait times are what kills this route and potential increased ridership. Taking a page out of BC Ferries, WSF should look at 300 car vehicles such as the new German built Super-C Class boats coming into service now. These boats have the capacity of 375 vehicles and 1,650 passengers and are simply stunning. These would be perfect for this route… but there one other problem.
Highway 305 which feeds the Bainbridge ferry through Bainbridge, is only a 2 lane highway. The entire highway needs to be a 4 lane highway between Bainbridge and Pouslbo to make things much more effective. While retaining the ferry only lane from Day Road to the terminal is vital. WSDOT needs to make this change as soon as it can to follow the growth of this run. It is the money maker and needs to be addressed. The three Super-C Class boats were only $370 million dollars.
Bremerton – Seattle – The poor Redheaded Stepchild of WSF which is the root of so many complaints and lack of service, shoddy ferries, lack of equal food service and getting the shaft when a boat needs a backup, needs to be re-thought, re-launched, and brought back to a reasonable service level with service to at least every 30 minutes. There is a lot that could be done but a shuffling of boats would be the right direction and using the Super Jumbo Class boats on this run would be the right step.
Fauntleroy – Vashon/Southworth – This route sometimes confuses me simply because I never been on it before. It is my understanding that some of the ferries continue from Vashon to Southworth. How they handle the vehicle loading is beyond me but at any rate from looking at route stats, it could use the Jumbo Class Mark I boats on the Fauntleroy to Vashon runs and a smaller 100 car ferry for the Fauntleroy to Southworth run. There needs to be a new waiting location at this terminal instead of the vehicles lining up all down the street and in front of peoples homes and the park there. There shouldn’t be a shared use of runs IMO.
Pt. Defiance/Tehlequah (Vashon) – The Evergreen is the only boat on this run and it suits it beautifully but will need to be replaced. This boat overtime should be upgraded to at least a 100 car ferry but anything bigger would be a waste since most of the users take the Vashon – Fauntleroy run to get to Seattle.
If I was Paula Hammond and had opion of the 5 cent tax increase to buy new boats and maintain service.. I would at least do the following:
2 Super Jumbo class boats (144-car) and 2 Issaquah 100 class (90-car) boats on the San Juan Route 2 Issaquah 100 class boats on the Port Townsend – Keystone route (90-car). 2 Jumbo Class (188-car) boats on the Clinton – Mukilteo route 3 Jumbo Class (188-car) boats on the Kingston – Edmonds route 3 Super-C Class (370-car) boats on the Bainbridge – Seattle route 3 Super Jumbo Mark II (202-car) boat on the Bremerton – Seattle route (boats moved from Bainbridge) 4 Jumbo Class (188-car) boats on the Vashon/Southworth – Fauntleroy route 1 Issaquah 130 (124-car) boat on the Pt. Defiance – Tehlequah route 2 Passenger Only Fast Ferries on the Seattle to Kingston/Port Townsend route.
Plenty of room for expansion and the boats can be used on any route.
February 17, 2008 at 12:52 am
by Brian Bundridge
Imagine using this….

Instead of these little guys….

For those that don’t know, Tacoma Link (streetcar) was built in such a way to support it’s bigger brother, light-rail for about 80% of it’s system. If Sound Transit goes to the ballot in 2008 or 2010 and passes, the Kinkishayro equipment could be ordered and used even if the line isn’t connecting to the main line. What would the changes be you ask? Not as much as you would think…
- The arrival of seven Kinkishayro light-rail vehicles
- Rebuilt stations to handle 1 car train (read below)
- The curve at 25th Ave to Pacific to be reconfigured. Current curve is too tight for LRVs
- Expanded Operations & Maintenance Facility to handle Kinkishayro LRVs
- 1 percent of art added to stations and key locations along the line
- Modified Fare Structure
- 7 new center-island platform stations, including shelters, signage, lighting, seating, ticket vending machines, CCTV’s
- Power system conversion from 750dc to 1500dc unless LRV’s can “step down” and still performance solidly.
- Construction of 5.5 miles of new double track light rail system to Tacoma Community College
There is one thing however that makes this a bit more difficult because, all of the stations on Tacoma Link have room for a one car train and would remain so. Normal Link consists are setup for a maximum of four car trains. This wouldn’t be a problem as long as nothing changes for the buses at Tacoma Dome Station but in my opinion, I would at least make it compatible for 2-car trains, especially if your expecting 8,000+/- passengers per weekday. When the full system is going, I would assume they would make the it still separate?
Most do not remember this document but Google found it for me while I was researching University Link and if any additional cars have been ordered yet.
Read over it and comment. I really wouldn’t mind the change but really, 2-car trains should be the goal and while space becomes an issue because the Kinki’s are 95 feet long vs. the current 66 foot long Skoda’s, nevertheless, it would be welcomed cause it does get very, very cramped sometimes on the Tacoma runs.
The total distance would go from 1.6 miles to 7.1 miles in length and would cost around $600 million for the project.
Sound Transit link on Tacoma Link conversion to Kinkishayro cars (.pdf file)
Compare and Contrast:
North, Central, University, East, South Link Light Rail – Kinkisharyo/Mitsui of Japan Manufacture Specs are available at this link http://www.kinkisharyo.com/st_seattle.html
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95 feet
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Height
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12.5 feet
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Estimated 105,000 pounds
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8.7 feet
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Passenger capacity
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200 passengers, 74 seated
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Electricity
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N/A
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Power
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Powered by electrical-1500 volts D.C. traction power system
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Tacoma Link – Inekon Trams formerly Skoda Dopravni Technika of Czech Republic Manufacture Specs are available at this link http://www.skoda.cz/darkblue/obrazek.asp?ID=1613
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66 feet
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11.35 feet
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61,729 pounds
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8.1 feet
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56 (30 seated and 26 standing)
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Electricity
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N/A
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Overhead electrical wires – 750 volts D.C., with pantograph current collection
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February 16, 2008 at 11:11 pm
by Brian Bundridge
 Here is a visual assessment for February 16, 2008 on the Central segment of Link Light Rail.
Vehicle Count:
16 of 35 vehicles are on the O&M property. Order for additional LRV’s should be coming up the end of the year for University Link.
Track Installation:
Trackwork is complete from Pine Street Station to the Airport Expressway. The rest is dependent on the Port of Seattle work on the new Expressway road construction to Sea-Tac Airport which is slated to open in Spring 2008. The SR 518 Sea-Tac Airport to I-5/I-405 Interchange Project improves existing mobility and safety and accommodates projected airport traffic by adding a third eastbound lane on SR 518 between the North Airport Expressway and the I-5/I-405 Interchange. This is slated to open in Fall 2009.
Overhead Contact System (OCS):
Overhead Contact poles are installed from Tukwila International Blvd. Station to Mt. Baker Station. Support arms for the wire are being installed from SR-599 to MLK Way. Unknown status within Beacon Hill Tunnel. Powered tests is in operation between the O&M and Pine Street Tunnel. Tunnel testing is only on weekends and weeknights.
Signal System:
95% of the signaling is up and running though testing is required between Beacon Hill Tunnel and Tukwila Station but from a visual standpoint, they were all be a few lit up amber “hold”
All grade crossings are installed and operational. Royal Brougham is activated only during tunnel testing at this time.
Beacon Hill Tunnel:
No update on the progress but it has been about an month. I would expect the punch through sometime in the next week or so judging by the sudden influx on equipment around the site now (Big cranes) and flatbeds around the work site.
Stations:
New signs are being installed at Westlake Center Station today. Westlake, University, Pioneer Square, International District, Stadium, Lander, and Henderson Street Stations are complete and ready for Link service. Beacon Hill, Mt. Baker, Columbia City, Othello, Tukwila International Blvd, and Sea-Tac Airport are still under construction.
Transit Oriented Development (TOD):
Most noticeable is the remodeling of several apartments near the Tukwila International Blvd Station site and all up and down Martin Luther King Jr. Way. Low-income housing is in place instead of the old “projects” that was common from Rainier Avenue to Alaska Street. I’ve went to a couple of showings of these homes and they are very nice though some of the models were a bit cramped but that is what your getting for the new urban development. If Portland or Charlotte is any heads up, bigger condos and such will go up soon enough if the demand is there.
That’s all for now, but do you want more? Want to see the construction up close and personal on a guided tour of Link? Ride the Sound Transit Lunch Bus on one of their plush MCI D4500 Commuter Coaches. Reclining seats, guest speakers and enjoy excellent, excellent, local food at a select location. Ask questions, be heard, and enjoy what is coming to you in 16 months from now!
February 16, 2008 at 8:44 pm
by Andrew Smith
 Careful, your bus may be on Sunday schedule monday, Sounder definitely will be.
Metro’s BRT is not really “rapid”, according to the West Seattle Herald.
The Seattle PI wants local governments to take over the state’s ferries, because, uh, they make so much money? Is this an argument for Ferry Rapid Transit (FRT)? I still think unicorn rapid transit is the money idea.
February 16, 2008 at 7:38 am
by Brian Bundridge
 This is something King County or one of the Victoria carriers should pick up and re-engine. This would be an excellent boat for fast ferry service. Detroit Diesel, CAT, and EMD has a replacement engine for these class ferries that would drop right into the boat and produce the same horsepower while cutting fuel costs by 15-35% according to documents I’ve seen from both manufactures.
It’s going for $4.5 million
I need to win the lottery.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/M-V-Chinook-Passenger-Ferry-08-0422_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26432QQihZ022QQitemZ350026143204QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Update 7:30am:
I felt the need to write an email to the City Council regarding this and why it should be done.
I am contacting the Council regarding the sale of Washington State M.V. Chinook passenger-only fast ferry on eBay. I have been doing a lot of research regarding the M.V Snohomish but would also apply for the Chinook since they are the same boat. While the boat is for sale for $4.5 million, Detroit Diesel, CAT, and EMD have replacement and near drop in engines that would would work great for both of these boats. They would cut fuel savings between 15 to 35%, lower emissions, and easier to maintain. I don’t have the documents available due to a external hard drive failure but it would be worth to contact the above manufactures to see exactly how much it would run the County for the equipment Purchasing the Chinook and re-motoring the boats is probably one of the best things that could happen for this ferry district. It’s a 38-knot or 43mph boat, which would bring Kirkland to Seattle passengers to Lake Union in less than 15 minutes, including the slow speed through the Montlake Cut. A dock near the Fred Hutch Streetcar would benefit not only the Streetcar but the ease of transfers. It’s a 149-passenger boat that can be a 350-passenger boat if a safety plan is made, the same follows for the Snohomish.
It’s a local boat that is ready to go for the King County Passenger Ferry District, can be used in service now. It’s only a 10 year old boat and a lot of people have memories on these boats, this is something that we have in our hand and in our back yard and need to follow through on. We can’t afford to pass up on this unique opportunity and personally it isn’t worth scrapping the boat at all when it is perfectly fine for our future use.
Thank you for your time,
February 16, 2008 at 12:27 am
by Andrew Smith
 As you may or may not know, Sound Transit spends 1% of its capital budget on art. The results are kind of mixed. Some of the art is great, others are interesting, some is kind of odd, and some is just plain terrible (see the above installation next to the Paramount on Pine).
Sound Transit is commissioning a $550,000 installation at the UW station, and is looking for artists. They already found one for Capitol Hill station. That’s a lot of money, and all you artists out there, I would really love something awesome in that station.
So, this leaves me with two questions. First, what is the best art (and worst) at a Transit location in our area? And second, what would you like to see the $550,000 go for at UW station?
February 16, 2008 at 12:27 am
by Andrew Smith
 As you may or may not know, Sound Transit spends 1% of its capital budget on art. The results are kind of mixed. Some of the art is great, others are interesting, some is kind of odd, and some is just plain terrible (see the above installation next to the Paramount on Pine).
Sound Transit is commissioning a $550,000 installation at the UW station, and is looking for artists. They already found one for Capitol Hill station. That’s a lot of money, and all you artists out there, I would really love something awesome in that station.
So, this leaves me with two questions. First, what is the best art (and worst) at a Transit location in our area? And second, what would you like to see the $550,000 go for at UW station?
February 16, 2008 at 12:20 am
by Andrew Smith
Eastside Rail Now! (that’s their exclamation point) is holding a town hall meeting at the Bellevue library at 6:30, with registration starting at 6:00, Tuesday the 19th of February. They have a slate of speakers, including Tom Jones from the Cascadia Center of the Discovery Institute, Craig Stone from WSDOT and John Creighton from the Port of Seattle.
It’s sort of a grassroots thing and should be interesting for those Eastside Rail fanatics.
February 16, 2008 at 12:20 am
by Andrew Smith
Eastside Rail Now! (that’s their exclamation point) is holding a town hall meeting at the Bellevue library at 6:30, with registration starting at 6:00, Tuesday the 19th of February. They have a slate of speakers, including Tom Jones from the Cascadia Center of the Discovery Institute, Craig Stone from WSDOT and John Creighton from the Port of Seattle.
It’s sort of a grassroots thing and should be interesting for those Eastside Rail fanatics.
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