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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-64866</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RapidRide doesn&#039;t improve on existing Metro Express buses, with the exception of frequency of service.

Without capital improvements, Metro can&#039;t provide a consistent travel time on routes, like the one in West Seattle. Two choke points already kill consistency for existing express buses: 1) The Delridge Way onramp to the West Seattle Bridge, with the crossover traffic blocking the dedicated bus lane on the bridge.  2) The Seneca Street exit on the Viaduct, a place where traffic gets bogged down quickly.

If Metro can&#039;t fund the full deal to make BRT effective, why bother? It seems like a boondoggle. Just increase bus hours on existing express bus routes and save the money on repainting buses and making cosmetic changes to certain shelters.

It&#039;s sort of like the changes Sound Transit made to other Metro Express routes, like the 150 or 263. The 545 is just a gussied up version of the 263 with more frequency of service. Why pay more to ride it? Same goes for the bus going between Seattle and Bellevue. Change without significant improvement.</description>
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RapidRide doesn&#8217;t improve on existing Metro Express buses, with the exception of frequency of service.</p>
<p>Without capital improvements, Metro can&#8217;t provide a consistent travel time on routes, like the one in West Seattle. Two choke points already kill consistency for existing express buses: 1) The Delridge Way onramp to the West Seattle Bridge, with the crossover traffic blocking the dedicated bus lane on the bridge.  2) The Seneca Street exit on the Viaduct, a place where traffic gets bogged down quickly.</p>
<p>If Metro can&#8217;t fund the full deal to make BRT effective, why bother? It seems like a boondoggle. Just increase bus hours on existing express bus routes and save the money on repainting buses and making cosmetic changes to certain shelters.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sort of like the changes Sound Transit made to other Metro Express routes, like the 150 or 263. The 545 is just a gussied up version of the 263 with more frequency of service. Why pay more to ride it? Same goes for the bus going between Seattle and Bellevue. Change without significant improvement.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-55217</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a pretty optimistic view. Things like transit priority, bus-lanes, and other things necessary to have true BRT are &lt;i&gt;options&lt;/i&gt; for Metro but not ones they seem to have the money to fund. I hope the best for RapidRide, most sincerely, but it is basically impossible to make the large investment in real and not get dedicated lanes, ticket vending machines, rail priority, etc. It&#039;s very tempting, however, to dumb down BRT more and more such that RapidRide turns out to disappoint.</description>
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You have a pretty optimistic view. Things like transit priority, bus-lanes, and other things necessary to have true BRT are <i>options</i> for Metro but not ones they seem to have the money to fund. I hope the best for RapidRide, most sincerely, but it is basically impossible to make the large investment in real and not get dedicated lanes, ticket vending machines, rail priority, etc. It&#8217;s very tempting, however, to dumb down BRT more and more such that RapidRide turns out to disappoint.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-55195</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with Rapid Ride is it isn&#039;t full BRT in the sense that Swift or the Orange Line in LA are. The plans for some of the Rapid Ride lines look to me like nothing more than some fancy branding.

Speaking of Swift and the Aurora Rapid Ride line, I can&#039;t be the only one who thinks this should be an integrated line running from Downtown Seattle to Downtown Everett along SR99. I don&#039;t really care if this becomes a Sound Transit Service or a joint project of Metro, CT, and Everett Transit, I just want seamless operation and payment with full Curitiba style BRT.</description>
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The problem I have with Rapid Ride is it isn&#8217;t full BRT in the sense that Swift or the Orange Line in LA are. The plans for some of the Rapid Ride lines look to me like nothing more than some fancy branding.</p>
<p>Speaking of Swift and the Aurora Rapid Ride line, I can&#8217;t be the only one who thinks this should be an integrated line running from Downtown Seattle to Downtown Everett along SR99. I don&#8217;t really care if this becomes a Sound Transit Service or a joint project of Metro, CT, and Everett Transit, I just want seamless operation and payment with full Curitiba style BRT.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-55194</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that the 15/18 run every 10 minutes, however unless you&#039;re on an express it takes forever to get downtown or back to Ballard. The RapidRide route will provide an express level of service throughout the day, not just during those peak times. 

The RapidRide bus will not &quot;sit at a long light&quot; when it gets off 15th at Dravus because transit signal priority is part of the RapidRide design. That means the bus will trigger the light so that it can go through and not have to stop. 

If you want to learn more about RapidRide so that you can have an informed opinion, check out the Metro website on this 

http://metro.kingcounty.gov/up/sc/plans/2009/012009-burr.html</description>
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It&#8217;s true that the 15/18 run every 10 minutes, however unless you&#8217;re on an express it takes forever to get downtown or back to Ballard. The RapidRide route will provide an express level of service throughout the day, not just during those peak times. </p>
<p>The RapidRide bus will not &#8220;sit at a long light&#8221; when it gets off 15th at Dravus because transit signal priority is part of the RapidRide design. That means the bus will trigger the light so that it can go through and not have to stop. </p>
<p>If you want to learn more about RapidRide so that you can have an informed opinion, check out the Metro website on this </p>
<p><a href="http://metro.kingcounty.gov/up/sc/plans/2009/012009-burr.html" rel="nofollow">http://metro.kingcounty.gov/up/sc/plans/2009/012009-burr.html</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-55193</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People aren&#039;t excited about it because this is Seattle and Seattleites are afraid of change. It&#039;s a new idea for us (not a new idea in general, it&#039;s been successfully implemented around the world, Curitiba Brazil for example) and people don&#039;t fully understand the concept. I think once the first line is implemented and people can see it in action, they will be excited about it. This really is a terrific transit option for Seattle. We developed in the age of the car, so now we are trying to retrofit our city with efficient transit options. Light trail is extremely expensive, and BRT accomplishes similar goals at a fraction of the cost. 
 
You can&#039;t roll out a &quot;small segment of each route in operation first, earlier than the rest of the line&quot; because it&#039;s the full package that gives the benefits. The point is the BAT (Business Access Transit) lanes and the signal priority and the buses with 3 doors and the modified stop spacing and the ITS (Intelligent Transportation System). Only doing one or two of those things wouldn&#039;t deliver the full time and convenience benefits and certainly wouldn&#039;t get people on board literally and figuratively. You can&#039;t do these things for only part of a line, it&#039;s a corridor-wide change. 
The way they are rolling out BRT in stages is to do it line by line, starting with the A Line in 2010 and ending with the E Line in 2013.</description>
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People aren&#8217;t excited about it because this is Seattle and Seattleites are afraid of change. It&#8217;s a new idea for us (not a new idea in general, it&#8217;s been successfully implemented around the world, Curitiba Brazil for example) and people don&#8217;t fully understand the concept. I think once the first line is implemented and people can see it in action, they will be excited about it. This really is a terrific transit option for Seattle. We developed in the age of the car, so now we are trying to retrofit our city with efficient transit options. Light trail is extremely expensive, and BRT accomplishes similar goals at a fraction of the cost. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t roll out a &#8220;small segment of each route in operation first, earlier than the rest of the line&#8221; because it&#8217;s the full package that gives the benefits. The point is the BAT (Business Access Transit) lanes and the signal priority and the buses with 3 doors and the modified stop spacing and the ITS (Intelligent Transportation System). Only doing one or two of those things wouldn&#8217;t deliver the full time and convenience benefits and certainly wouldn&#8217;t get people on board literally and figuratively. You can&#8217;t do these things for only part of a line, it&#8217;s a corridor-wide change.<br />
The way they are rolling out BRT in stages is to do it line by line, starting with the A Line in 2010 and ending with the E Line in 2013.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2045</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Down in San Francisco, the transit advocates are very pro-BRT, especially along the Geary corridor.  This appears to be a case where the buses are already massively overstressed (running every couple of minutes and crush loaded) and city politics makes rail impossible for the next 20 years (promises made to Chinatown politicos require the next investment to be a Chinatown subway).  BRT is seen as the practical improvement.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That said, I think the excitement is proportional to the expected improvement of service.  In SF, they&#039;re expecting a high-quality BRT implementation that can minimize crush-loading along a busy corridor.  Here, I&#039;d like to be excited about Ballard BRT.  But since the 15/18 already combine to run every 10 minutes and there&#039;s no indication the city is looking to dedicate a bus lane along 15th, build a median stop at Dravus so the bus doesn&#039;t have to get off 15th and sit at a long light, etc. it doesn&#039;t seem like much of a service upgrade.  So there&#039;s not much to be excited about.</description>
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Down in San Francisco, the transit advocates are very pro-BRT, especially along the Geary corridor.  This appears to be a case where the buses are already massively overstressed (running every couple of minutes and crush loaded) and city politics makes rail impossible for the next 20 years (promises made to Chinatown politicos require the next investment to be a Chinatown subway).  BRT is seen as the practical improvement.</p>
<p>That said, I think the excitement is proportional to the expected improvement of service.  In SF, they&#8217;re expecting a high-quality BRT implementation that can minimize crush-loading along a busy corridor.  Here, I&#8217;d like to be excited about Ballard BRT.  But since the 15/18 already combine to run every 10 minutes and there&#8217;s no indication the city is looking to dedicate a bus lane along 15th, build a median stop at Dravus so the bus doesn&#8217;t have to get off 15th and sit at a long light, etc. it doesn&#8217;t seem like much of a service upgrade.  So there&#8217;s not much to be excited about.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bgtothen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>bgtothen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;does anybody... anybody at all, seem to be excited about BRT? all i&#039;ve ever heard is people grouse about it (myself included). isn&#039;t this a bad sign? why are we investing in something that seems destined to be a useless waste of money?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think that people that read this blog aren&#039;t a good representative sample of the population in general. Tell most people that nice busses, that are faster and come more often are coming and generally most of them will be happy. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Daimjin - I have a question for next time you talk to ST or Metro. I want to know how are they looking to restructure metro routes in the rainier valley? With LINK going north/south I think that getting east/west is going to me more of an issue now.</description>
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&#8220;does anybody&#8230; anybody at all, seem to be excited about BRT? all i&#8217;ve ever heard is people grouse about it (myself included). isn&#8217;t this a bad sign? why are we investing in something that seems destined to be a useless waste of money?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that people that read this blog aren&#8217;t a good representative sample of the population in general. Tell most people that nice busses, that are faster and come more often are coming and generally most of them will be happy. </p>
<p>Daimjin &#8211; I have a question for next time you talk to ST or Metro. I want to know how are they looking to restructure metro routes in the rainier valley? With LINK going north/south I think that getting east/west is going to me more of an issue now.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cale</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Cale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am ok with BRT if it actually accomplishes these things. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, I wish some of our politicians would stop parading it like it is a substitute for rail.</description>
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I am ok with BRT if it actually accomplishes these things. </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Cencini</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Cencini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, metro is not getting a lot of love on brt.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;actually, i&#039;m left with two questions (the first&#039;s probably rhetorical):&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-does anybody... anybody at all, seem to be excited about BRT?  all i&#039;ve ever heard is people grouse about it (myself included).  isn&#039;t this a bad sign?  why are we investing in something that seems destined to be a useless waste of money?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-2010, huh?  wouldn&#039;t it make more sense from a project planning perspective to roll out in stages starting with a small segment of each route in operation first, earlier than the rest of the line?  the silver line in boston (BRT with some decent capital investment) did that - they had i think three or four segments and they used a small, street-running quick-n-dirty segment as the starter where they worked on the technology and built awareness among users.  the silver line was and has been kind of a disaster, but it could have been much worse.  while boston talked about the silver line for ages, once the commitment was made i think it was &lt;18 months til the first riders boarded the small first segment.  the rest of the line took awhile to build (i&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s actually even done or if they&#039;re continuing to grow it) but they were able to make improvements (and, if it was anywhere other than boston, they could have saved costs) based on their experiences as they operated it.  wouldn&#039;t this make more sense for the rapid ride system (get a little one going right away and build and refine?)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;a bit of a ramble but 2 kind of interesting things to think about...</description>
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wow, metro is not getting a lot of love on brt.</p>
<p>actually, i&#8217;m left with two questions (the first&#8217;s probably rhetorical):</p>
<p>-does anybody&#8230; anybody at all, seem to be excited about BRT?  all i&#8217;ve ever heard is people grouse about it (myself included).  isn&#8217;t this a bad sign?  why are we investing in something that seems destined to be a useless waste of money?</p>
<p>-2010, huh?  wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense from a project planning perspective to roll out in stages starting with a small segment of each route in operation first, earlier than the rest of the line?  the silver line in boston (BRT with some decent capital investment) did that &#8211; they had i think three or four segments and they used a small, street-running quick-n-dirty segment as the starter where they worked on the technology and built awareness among users.  the silver line was and has been kind of a disaster, but it could have been much worse.  while boston talked about the silver line for ages, once the commitment was made i think it was &lt;18 months til the first riders boarded the small first segment.  the rest of the line took awhile to build (i'm not sure if it's actually even done or if they're continuing to grow it) but they were able to make improvements (and, if it was anywhere other than boston, they could have saved costs) based on their experiences as they operated it.  wouldn't this make more sense for the rapid ride system (get a little one going right away and build and refine?)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Sims&#039; point that BRT can do rail does or that BRT can do what Sound Transit is trying to make rail do? It seems that rail&#039;s greatest benefits come from seving corridors where all-day ridership cannot be accommodated by buses (read high density) or making new connections or connections that can be made a lot simpler than with the road system (Ballard to Capitol Hill for instance).&lt;br/&gt;It seems that building a light rail line parallel with an existing, poorly managed freeway with low occupancy vehicles consuming way to much road capacity, seems like a huge waste of opportunity cost. You don&#039;t have a few billion dollars to tinker with every day, choose wisely.</description>
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Is Sims&#8217; point that BRT can do rail does or that BRT can do what Sound Transit is trying to make rail do? It seems that rail&#8217;s greatest benefits come from seving corridors where all-day ridership cannot be accommodated by buses (read high density) or making new connections or connections that can be made a lot simpler than with the road system (Ballard to Capitol Hill for instance).<br />It seems that building a light rail line parallel with an existing, poorly managed freeway with low occupancy vehicles consuming way to much road capacity, seems like a huge waste of opportunity cost. You don&#8217;t have a few billion dollars to tinker with every day, choose wisely.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are hard-hitting, you didn&#039;t hold back!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s great to see the powers that be answering the questions openly and honestly.</description>
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Those are hard-hitting, you didn&#8217;t hold back!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love me some rail, but BRT is actually pretty good.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It helped Quito, Ecuador revitalize the historic Old Town section of that city.  Pretty slick.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If it works in a Third World country, it might actually have a shot at fixing Aurora.</description>
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I love me some rail, but BRT is actually pretty good.</p>
<p>It helped Quito, Ecuador revitalize the historic Old Town section of that city.  Pretty slick.  </p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sims and anti-rail activists keep over-promising RR as a substitute for light rail.  I&#039;m glad Metro staff are more realistic.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sims&#039; big congestion pricing plan will flop if he expects people to embrace taking the bus as a substitute for heavily tolled driving.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Congestion pricing can work in big cities with robust rail systems, as commuters can be assured their commute will be reliable, and won&#039;t take any longer.  Quality of ride is important, too.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But when people are supposedly going to be forced out of their cars for a bus stuck in traffic...good luck!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;From what I can tell, Sims and his Sierra Club friends are taking their cues from this disingenuous group&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;www.gobrt.org/TransportInnovator JanFeb2008.pdf  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Disingenuous because they refuse to even acknowlege the important role rail plays in the &quot;model cities&quot; they perpetually write about...GoBRT is funded by Toyota and the Fuel Cell industry.  Rubber tires, pavement and internal combustion engines forever!</description>
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Sims and anti-rail activists keep over-promising RR as a substitute for light rail.  I&#8217;m glad Metro staff are more realistic.  </p>
<p>Sims&#8217; big congestion pricing plan will flop if he expects people to embrace taking the bus as a substitute for heavily tolled driving.</p>
<p>Congestion pricing can work in big cities with robust rail systems, as commuters can be assured their commute will be reliable, and won&#8217;t take any longer.  Quality of ride is important, too.  </p>
<p>But when people are supposedly going to be forced out of their cars for a bus stuck in traffic&#8230;good luck!</p>
<p>From what I can tell, Sims and his Sierra Club friends are taking their cues from this disingenuous group</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gobrt.org/TransportInnovator" rel="nofollow">http://www.gobrt.org/TransportInnovator</a> JanFeb2008.pdf  </p>
<p>Disingenuous because they refuse to even acknowlege the important role rail plays in the &#8220;model cities&#8221; they perpetually write about&#8230;GoBRT is funded by Toyota and the Fuel Cell industry.  Rubber tires, pavement and internal combustion engines forever!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great interview, Daimjin.  Now, if we could just get the Seattle Times, PI, Stranger and Crosscut (ok, skip Crosscut...they are hopeless) to engage in &quot;the journalism thing&quot; every once in a while....</description>
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Great interview, Daimjin.  Now, if we could just get the Seattle Times, PI, Stranger and Crosscut (ok, skip Crosscut&#8230;they are hopeless) to engage in &#8220;the journalism thing&#8221; every once in a while&#8230;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2027</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting: two of these answers contradict those I was given at the Fauntleroy open house.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One contradiction is the trip time reduction. At the open house they told me the RR would save 2-3 minutes over the 54 express--nowhere near &quot;25% or more&quot;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The other inconsistency is that at that open house the off-bus payment was implied to be a definite part of the plan.</description>
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Interesting: two of these answers contradict those I was given at the Fauntleroy open house.</p>
<p>One contradiction is the trip time reduction. At the open house they told me the RR would save 2-3 minutes over the 54 express&#8211;nowhere near &#8220;25% or more&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: bgtothen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2026</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That answers a good number of my questions. I can tell that they are starting to iron out all of the details. Before when I talked to them everything was just an idea, now they actually have plans. I wish they were implementing service faster but I realize that there are a lot of things that have to fall into place before it can start running.</description>
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That answers a good number of my questions. I can tell that they are starting to iron out all of the details. Before when I talked to them everything was just an idea, now they actually have plans. I wish they were implementing service faster but I realize that there are a lot of things that have to fall into place before it can start running.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/03/06/rapid-ride-answers/#comment-2023</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are existing bus routes that follow the course of RapidRide going to be abolished?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;i.e. we decline to answer.&lt;br/&gt;I heard lately that due to overwhelming community input that the route #54 that WAS designated to be replaced by the RR route, is now back in place for the time being.  Metro is supposedly looking at other route options for RR currently.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good!  It is a terrible misjudgement to get rid of the regular 54, it&#039;s such a huge link to the California corridor heading south.</description>
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&#8220;Are existing bus routes that follow the course of RapidRide going to be abolished?&#8221;<br />i.e. we decline to answer.<br />I heard lately that due to overwhelming community input that the route #54 that WAS designated to be replaced by the RR route, is now back in place for the time being.  Metro is supposedly looking at other route options for RR currently.</p>
<p>Good!  It is a terrible misjudgement to get rid of the regular 54, it&#8217;s such a huge link to the California corridor heading south.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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