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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-6041</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t believe we are in a recession.  don&#039;t let the media scare you.  they are just there to make money off of sensationalism.
i don&#039;t know about you, but i don&#039;t plan to be broke anytime soon.  and these &quot;boondoggles&quot; will never stop, you know...the road improvements i am almost positive you keep wondering about, sewer/water provision which boondoggedly keep us from pooping in holes in the ground and drinking the ground water it soaks in...imagine the costs to us taxpayers if we all developed dysentery.  boondoggle!</description>
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i don&#8217;t believe we are in a recession.  don&#8217;t let the media scare you.  they are just there to make money off of sensationalism.<br />
i don&#8217;t know about you, but i don&#8217;t plan to be broke anytime soon.  and these &#8220;boondoggles&#8221; will never stop, you know&#8230;the road improvements i am almost positive you keep wondering about, sewer/water provision which boondoggedly keep us from pooping in holes in the ground and drinking the ground water it soaks in&#8230;imagine the costs to us taxpayers if we all developed dysentery.  boondoggle!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: serial catowner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-6029</link>
		<dc:creator>serial catowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now I&#039;ve seen everything.  Digging through glacial till is harder than tunneling through granite?  I guess that would explain why castles were always built on rock outcroppings when possible.  Or not.

And all those trees that would be lost building light rail!  35 years ago I looked at a nice map of Seattle with copious &#039;greenbelts&#039;.  When they started cutting down the greenbelt behind my house, I looked again, and noticed the fine print- &lt;i&gt;proposed&lt;/i&gt; greenbelts.

In reality, of course, one light rail line carries the equivalent of twelve lanes of freeway, and you don&#039;t need to build parking lots for the cars on the twelve lanes of freeway.  In the history of argument, there has never been a more clearcut decision than building light rail if you want to save trees.

Why, &lt;i&gt;of course&lt;/i&gt;, if someone would sell me a Honda 90 for $69 a year, I would be so there.  Heck, I&#039;m tuning up my old ten-speed now, because you&#039;re never too old to be excruciatingly poor.  But one thing you learn with aging is that the 15 years that seemed way too long when it lay in the future seems way too short when it lies in the past.</description>
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Well, now I&#8217;ve seen everything.  Digging through glacial till is harder than tunneling through granite?  I guess that would explain why castles were always built on rock outcroppings when possible.  Or not.</p>
<p>And all those trees that would be lost building light rail!  35 years ago I looked at a nice map of Seattle with copious &#8216;greenbelts&#8217;.  When they started cutting down the greenbelt behind my house, I looked again, and noticed the fine print- <i>proposed</i> greenbelts.</p>
<p>In reality, of course, one light rail line carries the equivalent of twelve lanes of freeway, and you don&#8217;t need to build parking lots for the cars on the twelve lanes of freeway.  In the history of argument, there has never been a more clearcut decision than building light rail if you want to save trees.</p>
<p>Why, <i>of course</i>, if someone would sell me a Honda 90 for $69 a year, I would be so there.  Heck, I&#8217;m tuning up my old ten-speed now, because you&#8217;re never too old to be excruciatingly poor.  But one thing you learn with aging is that the 15 years that seemed way too long when it lay in the future seems way too short when it lies in the past.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Busdrivermike</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-6009</link>
		<dc:creator>Busdrivermike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember when Nickels was stridently pro-Monorail. Until the political wind turned, then he jumped ship. I paid an extra $175 a year for that little property windfall for the Beneroya family trust.

So when you tell me that I will pay $69 a year extra in taxes to lay rail across a lake, north to lynnwood, and south to Federal Way, I wonder just a little bit. That is real money you are talking about spending. To Sound Transit. Which promised rail from Northgate to Downtown last time, for much less money than they spent getting from the Airport to Downtown. You are talking about digging through various strata of clays and glacial till, not granite like NYC has. Big difference. That is why ST did not go to the University in ST1. They promised to, but could not contain costs as they had projected. I know, I know, it was not their fault, and they promise to be much better this time, but that is a simple child&#039;s ploy, that only a fool falls for a second time.

And for all you &quot;environmentalists&quot; out there: how much earth will be dug, how many hours of earth moving equipment will be used, trees ripped out, concrete poured, air poisoned, etc, etc; so you can use this more &quot;environmentally friendly&quot; train in thirty years?  And the way Microsoft has missed the internet revolution, how long until they are not such a big company in Redmond, that they need their own choo-choo?  Monopolies only last so long, even in the USA.</description>
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I remember when Nickels was stridently pro-Monorail. Until the political wind turned, then he jumped ship. I paid an extra $175 a year for that little property windfall for the Beneroya family trust.</p>
<p>So when you tell me that I will pay $69 a year extra in taxes to lay rail across a lake, north to lynnwood, and south to Federal Way, I wonder just a little bit. That is real money you are talking about spending. To Sound Transit. Which promised rail from Northgate to Downtown last time, for much less money than they spent getting from the Airport to Downtown. You are talking about digging through various strata of clays and glacial till, not granite like NYC has. Big difference. That is why ST did not go to the University in ST1. They promised to, but could not contain costs as they had projected. I know, I know, it was not their fault, and they promise to be much better this time, but that is a simple child&#8217;s ploy, that only a fool falls for a second time.</p>
<p>And for all you &#8220;environmentalists&#8221; out there: how much earth will be dug, how many hours of earth moving equipment will be used, trees ripped out, concrete poured, air poisoned, etc, etc; so you can use this more &#8220;environmentally friendly&#8221; train in thirty years?  And the way Microsoft has missed the internet revolution, how long until they are not such a big company in Redmond, that they need their own choo-choo?  Monopolies only last so long, even in the USA.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-6000</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s have everyone buy the newest generation of vehicles or mopeds at this point in our nation&#039;s economic history? Come on, that&#039;s not a solution. You&#039;re ignoring congestion and reliability: the hours people spend a day commuting that alternative energy -- as great as it is -- can&#039;t fix.

Bloomberg rarely subways to work -- it&#039;s a publicity thing. To argue about the future of mass transit in our region based on how often our mayor does publicity transit runs is some mighty questionable logic.

Plenty of people who love their cars and the freedom that comes with it would be happy to get to work quicker and on a more reliable schedule by hopping on a train -- that&#039;s the option that light rail provides. Sure, they can drive where-ever the want when they get home -- but I&#039;m sure they&#039;re currently not thinking very highly of their freedom when stuck in congestion on the 520 bridge that started at 3pm.</description>
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Let&#8217;s have everyone buy the newest generation of vehicles or mopeds at this point in our nation&#8217;s economic history? Come on, that&#8217;s not a solution. You&#8217;re ignoring congestion and reliability: the hours people spend a day commuting that alternative energy &#8212; as great as it is &#8212; can&#8217;t fix.</p>
<p>Bloomberg rarely subways to work &#8212; it&#8217;s a publicity thing. To argue about the future of mass transit in our region based on how often our mayor does publicity transit runs is some mighty questionable logic.</p>
<p>Plenty of people who love their cars and the freedom that comes with it would be happy to get to work quicker and on a more reliable schedule by hopping on a train &#8212; that&#8217;s the option that light rail provides. Sure, they can drive where-ever the want when they get home &#8212; but I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re currently not thinking very highly of their freedom when stuck in congestion on the 520 bridge that started at 3pm.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Terry Parkhurst</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5999</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Parkhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justifying huge capital investments, based on increasing taxes, at this point in the nation&#039;s economic history, is callous and foolish. Furthermore, saying that the high price of gasoline makes it absolutely necessary to build mass transit, completely ignores the fact that not only is a new generation of automobiles coming available in two to three years with higher mileage capability, but younger consumers are gravitating towards two-wheeled transportation - scooters, mopeds and motorcycles - in a way not seen since the second &quot;oil crisis&quot; of the 1970s.

Building mass transit is less about transportation solutions than it is about creating jobs in government. And when the mayor says he can&#039;t ride the bus because of &quot;safety&quot; concerns, that shows how undesirable riding the bus is for those who make high incomes. Do you really think that is going to change with the transportation module rides on steel wheels on rails, instead of rubber tires on a roadway?

Michael Bloomberg, mayor of New York, rides the subway. When Mayor Nickels starts to use the bus to get to-and-from work, you&#039;ll a reason to get people to give mass transit some consideration. Until then, the market is always going to be the better way to figure out what we need in terms of transportation. And we know what most Americans prefer - and will continue to. It is some sort of individual transportation device that allows flexibility in terms of scheduling. Think autos, trucks, motorcycles, scooter, mopeds and yes, even skateboards.</description>
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Justifying huge capital investments, based on increasing taxes, at this point in the nation&#8217;s economic history, is callous and foolish. Furthermore, saying that the high price of gasoline makes it absolutely necessary to build mass transit, completely ignores the fact that not only is a new generation of automobiles coming available in two to three years with higher mileage capability, but younger consumers are gravitating towards two-wheeled transportation &#8211; scooters, mopeds and motorcycles &#8211; in a way not seen since the second &#8220;oil crisis&#8221; of the 1970s.</p>
<p>Building mass transit is less about transportation solutions than it is about creating jobs in government. And when the mayor says he can&#8217;t ride the bus because of &#8220;safety&#8221; concerns, that shows how undesirable riding the bus is for those who make high incomes. Do you really think that is going to change with the transportation module rides on steel wheels on rails, instead of rubber tires on a roadway?</p>
<p>Michael Bloomberg, mayor of New York, rides the subway. When Mayor Nickels starts to use the bus to get to-and-from work, you&#8217;ll a reason to get people to give mass transit some consideration. Until then, the market is always going to be the better way to figure out what we need in terms of transportation. And we know what most Americans prefer &#8211; and will continue to. It is some sort of individual transportation device that allows flexibility in terms of scheduling. Think autos, trucks, motorcycles, scooter, mopeds and yes, even skateboards.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5996</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, while I wasn&#039;t a fan of Nickels&#039; article I disagree with continuing to wait. Waiting is what got us into this mess, and waiting won&#039;t build us out of it. There&#039;s never a good time for a tax increase, but as a region we need to redouble our efforts to provide an alternative to $70 fill-ups and hour-long commutes.

Thanks for posting your comment, by the way!</description>
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Susan, while I wasn&#8217;t a fan of Nickels&#8217; article I disagree with continuing to wait. Waiting is what got us into this mess, and waiting won&#8217;t build us out of it. There&#8217;s never a good time for a tax increase, but as a region we need to redouble our efforts to provide an alternative to $70 fill-ups and hour-long commutes.</p>
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		<title>By: ericn</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5993</link>
		<dc:creator>ericn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget about the possibility of Eastside commuter rail, too. If it happens I expect that it will meet up with East Link somewhere east of 405, so the improved service hours won&#039;t just benefit Bellevue and Overlake, but Renton, Kirkland, Snohomish, and Woodinville too.</description>
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Don&#8217;t forget about the possibility of Eastside commuter rail, too. If it happens I expect that it will meet up with East Link somewhere east of 405, so the improved service hours won&#8217;t just benefit Bellevue and Overlake, but Renton, Kirkland, Snohomish, and Woodinville too.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ericn</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5992</link>
		<dc:creator>ericn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to note that the new I-90 HOV lanes will actually increase capacity over the express lanes, since we&#039;ll have one lane in each direction instead of two in one direction.</description>
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I&#8217;d just like to note that the new I-90 HOV lanes will actually increase capacity over the express lanes, since we&#8217;ll have one lane in each direction instead of two in one direction.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Suzie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5991</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nickels is watching too much Letterman!  Among his countdown (#5) is a insult to women....&quot;standing all the way home improves your calf muscles and physical stamina.  This strength-building exercise works even better in high heels!&quot;  
(How does the Mayor know about standing in high heels, has he worn high heels?)
The most logical person I&#039;ve read on this blog is John  425, he&#039;s hit it on the head........us taxpayers will be broke by the time they get done dreaming up how to spend our money.   
Why doesn&#039;t anyone think about how these boondoggles effect the retired people and the family man?  Does any of these people realize we are in a recession?  I agree with Ron Sims, &quot;The wrong investment at the wrong time&quot;</description>
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Nickels is watching too much Letterman!  Among his countdown (#5) is a insult to women&#8230;.&#8221;standing all the way home improves your calf muscles and physical stamina.  This strength-building exercise works even better in high heels!&#8221;<br />
(How does the Mayor know about standing in high heels, has he worn high heels?)<br />
The most logical person I&#8217;ve read on this blog is John  425, he&#8217;s hit it on the head&#8230;&#8230;..us taxpayers will be broke by the time they get done dreaming up how to spend our money.<br />
Why doesn&#8217;t anyone think about how these boondoggles effect the retired people and the family man?  Does any of these people realize we are in a recession?  I agree with Ron Sims, &#8220;The wrong investment at the wrong time&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cjh</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5977</link>
		<dc:creator>cjh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, you are ridiculously interventionist - not only do you reply to brad&#039;s comment but you stick an aside into it!  His argument can be edited rather than rebutted, so let&#039;s do that, huh?

You are your own worst enemy in arguing for things.</description>
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Ben, you are ridiculously interventionist &#8211; not only do you reply to brad&#8217;s comment but you stick an aside into it!  His argument can be edited rather than rebutted, so let&#8217;s do that, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel K</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5973</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone please tell me why after Sims announced an order for 500 new buses he is still bellyaching about buses?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003710441_buses17m.html

He&#039;s getting his buses, and his delay strategy regarding light rail will only cost those people he claims to worry about far more because of the added expense incurred by pushing everything out two more years.

Enough!  We&#039;ve had people tell us for years that we&#039;ll get light rail in the future.  At this point I&#039;m doubtful we&#039;ll get it in my lifetime!

Ron, you&#039;ve got your buses - we want light rail, now.</description>
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Someone please tell me why after Sims announced an order for 500 new buses he is still bellyaching about buses?</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s getting his buses, and his delay strategy regarding light rail will only cost those people he claims to worry about far more because of the added expense incurred by pushing everything out two more years.</p>
<p>Enough!  We&#8217;ve had people tell us for years that we&#8217;ll get light rail in the future.  At this point I&#8217;m doubtful we&#8217;ll get it in my lifetime!</p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5963</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re wrong.

LRT to Overlake via Bellevue increases service hours along that corridor -- one of the most congested in the state and home of the most popular ST Express route (550). It increases reliability of cross-lake travel, adds additional capacity, and does so while cutting the route&#039;s dependence on expensive, foreign oil.

In addition, the reach of the rail goes long beyond where the 550 ends -- and connects Downtown Bellevue and the Bel-Red corridor (as well as all of Central Link, Mercer Island, and South Bellevue) directly to Overlake and to each other.</description>
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You&#8217;re wrong.</p>
<p>LRT to Overlake via Bellevue increases service hours along that corridor &#8212; one of the most congested in the state and home of the most popular ST Express route (550). It increases reliability of cross-lake travel, adds additional capacity, and does so while cutting the route&#8217;s dependence on expensive, foreign oil.</p>
<p>In addition, the reach of the rail goes long beyond where the 550 ends &#8212; and connects Downtown Bellevue and the Bel-Red corridor (as well as all of Central Link, Mercer Island, and South Bellevue) directly to Overlake and to each other.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: lazarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>lazarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I guess I’m a bit confused by Dear Old Ron Sims’ position on this.  

He advocates for short term investments in more buses now as opposed to long term investments in rail, but isn’t the short term bus investment exactly what he proposed, and the voters subsequently approved, just 1.5 years ago in the form of “Transit Now”???  Isn’t “Transit Now” supposed to provide the short term immediate relief that Ron Sims is advocating for in his op-ed piece?  That is exactly how he presented it before the vote.  So what has changed?

The way I see it Ron is pretty much admitting that “TN” won’t solve the problem.  So if it won’t solve the problem, then why repeat the mistake and throw even more money at a failed concept?

Don’t get me wrong, buses definitely have a significant role in the local transportation picture, but continually investing in buses and nothing else is how we got ourselves into this problem to begin with.   Continually repeating the mistakes of the past isn’t going to change the outcome.  It’s time to move beyond “bus-only” solutions.

ST is building, and seeking to expand, a mixed mode approach of heavy rail, light rail, and improved bus transit.  If phase II is approved over half the transit passenger miles in the PS region will be served by the rail component, and the bus component will be redeployed for improved service on thinner routes.

Such a plan deserves our support. It’s time to move beyond the shortsightedness of the likes of Sims and K-F.

Time to “just get-err-done”.</description>
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So I guess I’m a bit confused by Dear Old Ron Sims’ position on this.  </p>
<p>He advocates for short term investments in more buses now as opposed to long term investments in rail, but isn’t the short term bus investment exactly what he proposed, and the voters subsequently approved, just 1.5 years ago in the form of “Transit Now”???  Isn’t “Transit Now” supposed to provide the short term immediate relief that Ron Sims is advocating for in his op-ed piece?  That is exactly how he presented it before the vote.  So what has changed?</p>
<p>The way I see it Ron is pretty much admitting that “TN” won’t solve the problem.  So if it won’t solve the problem, then why repeat the mistake and throw even more money at a failed concept?</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong, buses definitely have a significant role in the local transportation picture, but continually investing in buses and nothing else is how we got ourselves into this problem to begin with.   Continually repeating the mistakes of the past isn’t going to change the outcome.  It’s time to move beyond “bus-only” solutions.</p>
<p>ST is building, and seeking to expand, a mixed mode approach of heavy rail, light rail, and improved bus transit.  If phase II is approved over half the transit passenger miles in the PS region will be served by the rail component, and the bus component will be redeployed for improved service on thinner routes.</p>
<p>Such a plan deserves our support. It’s time to move beyond the shortsightedness of the likes of Sims and K-F.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5948</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed - nearly $1.3 billion of East Link will be covered by the existing taxes, and portions of the other service as well.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5947</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. Nobody works at Microsoft, and nobody lives and works in Bellevue downtown or in the Bel-Red corridor.

Brad, you know perfectly well the 550 ends in downtown Bellevue, and light rail doesn&#039;t.</description>
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You&#8217;re right. Nobody works at Microsoft, and nobody lives and works in Bellevue downtown or in the Bel-Red corridor.</p>
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		<title>By: runnerodb83</title>
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		<dc:creator>runnerodb83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I correct in saying that basically, part of ST2 is already funded by means of the subarea equity accounts.  The funds are there, just waiting to be used.  So to everyone who complains about paying more, you&#039;ve already been paying for it.</description>
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Am I correct in saying that basically, part of ST2 is already funded by means of the subarea equity accounts.  The funds are there, just waiting to be used.  So to everyone who complains about paying more, you&#8217;ve already been paying for it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean besides improved capacity, efficiency, comfort and reliability for the most popular regional route?</description>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/07/22/nickels-op-ed-any-other-ridiculous-reasons-to-delay/#comment-5944</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting 550 on rails does nothing for the Eastside.
Sorry, it just doesn&#039;t.

(That&#039;s why we&#039;re not putting the 550 on rails. The 550 is a &lt;em&gt;subset&lt;/em&gt; of East Link service, but East Link trains would go not only from downtown to Bellevue, but also continue on the Bellevue side to Overlake via the Bel-Red corridor, and on the Seattle side to Northgate (and beyond) via Central Link and North Link - no transfer necessary. Service will be more frequent as well as more reliable. In addition, all those 550 service hours will go to other Sound Transit routes on the eastside, like the 545, 554, 564/565, 540, 532, and 535 -Ben)</description>
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Putting 550 on rails does nothing for the Eastside.<br />
Sorry, it just doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>(That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re not putting the 550 on rails. The 550 is a <em>subset</em> of East Link service, but East Link trains would go not only from downtown to Bellevue, but also continue on the Bellevue side to Overlake via the Bel-Red corridor, and on the Seattle side to Northgate (and beyond) via Central Link and North Link &#8211; no transfer necessary. Service will be more frequent as well as more reliable. In addition, all those 550 service hours will go to other Sound Transit routes on the eastside, like the 545, 554, 564/565, 540, 532, and 535 -Ben)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lol&#039;d at this in Sim&#039;s piece-

&quot;People can&#039;t wait that long for more transit service. As government, we need to be more responsive. We need relief in 15 months, not 15 years.&quot;

Yet he has NO feasible alternative to light rail and adovocates waiting AT LEAST 24 MONTHS BEFORE GOING TO THE BALLOT!!

I find this offensive!</description>
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I lol&#8217;d at this in Sim&#8217;s piece-</p>
<p>&#8220;People can&#8217;t wait that long for more transit service. As government, we need to be more responsive. We need relief in 15 months, not 15 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet he has NO feasible alternative to light rail and adovocates waiting AT LEAST 24 MONTHS BEFORE GOING TO THE BALLOT!!</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$5.80 a month...

...is Seattle that broke that it can&#039;t shoulder that burden? Wow.</description>
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$5.80 a month&#8230;</p>
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