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		<title>By: Seattle Transit Blog &#187; Prop. 1 &#8220;Makes Transit Dream A Reality&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-12734</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Transit Blog &#187; Prop. 1 &#8220;Makes Transit Dream A Reality&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7591</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might you be confusing &quot;transit&quot; with &quot;bus&quot;?  Last time I checked &quot;transit&quot; equates to buses, rails, and sometimes ferries.

mmm, yep, still the same:

Noun	1.	public transport - conveyance for passengers or mail or freight
autobus, bus, charabanc, double-decker, jitney, motorbus, motorcoach, passenger vehicle, omnibus, coach - a vehicle carrying many passengers; used for public transport; &quot;he always rode the bus to work&quot;; transport, conveyance - something that serves as a means of transportation; deadhead - a train or bus or taxi traveling empty; limited, express - public transport consisting of a fast train or bus that makes only a few scheduled stops; &quot;he caught the express to New York&quot;; local - public transport consisting of a bus or train that stops at all stations or stops; &quot;the local seemed to take forever to get to New York&quot;; shuttle - public transport that consists of a bus or train or airplane that plies back and forth between two points; railroad train, train - public transport provided by a line of railway cars coupled together and drawn by a locomotive; &quot;express trains don&#039;t stop at Princeton Junction&quot;; transportation, transportation system, transit - a facility consisting of the means and equipment necessary for the movement of passengers or goods.</description>
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Might you be confusing &#8220;transit&#8221; with &#8220;bus&#8221;?  Last time I checked &#8220;transit&#8221; equates to buses, rails, and sometimes ferries.</p>
<p>mmm, yep, still the same:</p>
<p>Noun	1.	public transport &#8211; conveyance for passengers or mail or freight<br />
autobus, bus, charabanc, double-decker, jitney, motorbus, motorcoach, passenger vehicle, omnibus, coach &#8211; a vehicle carrying many passengers; used for public transport; &#8220;he always rode the bus to work&#8221;; transport, conveyance &#8211; something that serves as a means of transportation; deadhead &#8211; a train or bus or taxi traveling empty; limited, express &#8211; public transport consisting of a fast train or bus that makes only a few scheduled stops; &#8220;he caught the express to New York&#8221;; local &#8211; public transport consisting of a bus or train that stops at all stations or stops; &#8220;the local seemed to take forever to get to New York&#8221;; shuttle &#8211; public transport that consists of a bus or train or airplane that plies back and forth between two points; railroad train, train &#8211; public transport provided by a line of railway cars coupled together and drawn by a locomotive; &#8220;express trains don&#8217;t stop at Princeton Junction&#8221;; transportation, transportation system, transit &#8211; a facility consisting of the means and equipment necessary for the movement of passengers or goods.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7573</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I come here for transit information and talk, but the majority of it seems to be pro-rail propaganda.&quot;

Hey, Sam: prove your point.  Give STB readers an example of &quot;pro-rail propaganda.&quot;  In other words - and I know this is going to be difficult - prove your point.  

Aubrey Davis came to his position after decades of studying the notion of light rail across the lake; as opposed to the mono-modal, anti-transit bent of many BRT activists who wage ideological battles tied to their pro-roads property rights political bent, Davis (and STB) approach transit from a logical and scientific perspective.  And that, in your view, is worthy of a propaganda effort?? 

In addition, Davis steps away from the usual self-serving Mercer Islander view, honoring the 30 year old agreement that solo MI drivers would someday need to relenquish the unique perk of driving on their own private highway.

I believe STB covers bus &amp; train issues better than the local papers, and gets into many of the complex issues the dailies won&#039;t touch.  Why?  Because STB writers ride the bus, and report from the field, and from many different information sources.

If you want anti-rail propaganda, read the Seattle Times...or watch how the PI struggles to report basic facts correctly.</description>
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&#8220;I come here for transit information and talk, but the majority of it seems to be pro-rail propaganda.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, Sam: prove your point.  Give STB readers an example of &#8220;pro-rail propaganda.&#8221;  In other words &#8211; and I know this is going to be difficult &#8211; prove your point.  </p>
<p>Aubrey Davis came to his position after decades of studying the notion of light rail across the lake; as opposed to the mono-modal, anti-transit bent of many BRT activists who wage ideological battles tied to their pro-roads property rights political bent, Davis (and STB) approach transit from a logical and scientific perspective.  And that, in your view, is worthy of a propaganda effort?? </p>
<p>In addition, Davis steps away from the usual self-serving Mercer Islander view, honoring the 30 year old agreement that solo MI drivers would someday need to relenquish the unique perk of driving on their own private highway.</p>
<p>I believe STB covers bus &amp; train issues better than the local papers, and gets into many of the complex issues the dailies won&#8217;t touch.  Why?  Because STB writers ride the bus, and report from the field, and from many different information sources.</p>
<p>If you want anti-rail propaganda, read the Seattle Times&#8230;or watch how the PI struggles to report basic facts correctly.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7571</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. Got it.

Sorry, I take some downtime and take my brain with me.</description>
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Oh. Got it.</p>
<p>Sorry, I take some downtime and take my brain with me.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7570</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell that to Kemper Freeman, Tim &quot;Fauxlex&quot; Eyman and Dino Rossi who wedge it all together any chance they get.

What do you call Bellevue, anyhow? Aside from, you know, Bellevue.</description>
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Tell that to Kemper Freeman, Tim &#8220;Fauxlex&#8221; Eyman and Dino Rossi who wedge it all together any chance they get.</p>
<p>What do you call Bellevue, anyhow? Aside from, you know, Bellevue.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7569</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I work in Redmond and am in Redmond right now working ;)</description>
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Actually, I work in Redmond and am in Redmond right now working ;)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7568</link>
		<dc:creator>Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to the points made by AJ, because it is an election year with a mass transit proposition on the ballot, much of the general media coverage will on the subject, and not just on this blog. 

Not to mention the fact that Seattle is nearing completion on the first of its light rail lines. There is just a lot of buzz around this subject because of these reasons.</description>
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In addition to the points made by AJ, because it is an election year with a mass transit proposition on the ballot, much of the general media coverage will on the subject, and not just on this blog. </p>
<p>Not to mention the fact that Seattle is nearing completion on the first of its light rail lines. There is just a lot of buzz around this subject because of these reasons.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7567</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the seven trillionth time:  Bellevue is NOT the Eastside.</description>
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For the seven trillionth time:  Bellevue is NOT the Eastside.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7566</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love buses, and ride them every day. I think you&#039;d find we cover buses pretty well. But there&#039;s not as news about buses right now as there is about rail, because as John says, there&#039;s a huge rail plan on the ballot this year.</description>
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I love buses, and ride them every day. I think you&#8217;d find we cover buses pretty well. But there&#8217;s not as news about buses right now as there is about rail, because as John says, there&#8217;s a huge rail plan on the ballot this year.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7565</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely they do, I think Redmond has nearly as much as Bellevue. I just offered this up as a comparison of scale.</description>
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Absolutely they do, I think Redmond has nearly as much as Bellevue. I just offered this up as a comparison of scale.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7564</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, if you&#039;re saying that the current name is so cunning and deceiving that it &lt;i&gt;continues&lt;/i&gt; to trick you into visiting this humble blog then I suspect user error.

Listen, we&#039;re clearly a transit blog with a strong pro-rail bent -- there&#039;s no pretense otherwise. I don&#039;t think we stoop to the level of propaganda, but if you feel we do then I&#039;m sure you&#039;d have similar feelings regardless of our site name.</description>
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Sam, if you&#8217;re saying that the current name is so cunning and deceiving that it <i>continues</i> to trick you into visiting this humble blog then I suspect user error.</p>
<p>Listen, we&#8217;re clearly a transit blog with a strong pro-rail bent &#8212; there&#8217;s no pretense otherwise. I don&#8217;t think we stoop to the level of propaganda, but if you feel we do then I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d have similar feelings regardless of our site name.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7563</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an election year.

We are currently considering a ballot item that is most heavily-invested in rail.

The rail portion is the most heavily-contested.

Therefore, it is in the best interest to address and combat dis-information and poor attitudes towards rail transit to make sure that we can get proper investment in transit as a whole.

Capisce? Molto Buono.</description>
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It&#8217;s an election year.</p>
<p>We are currently considering a ballot item that is most heavily-invested in rail.</p>
<p>The rail portion is the most heavily-contested.</p>
<p>Therefore, it is in the best interest to address and combat dis-information and poor attitudes towards rail transit to make sure that we can get proper investment in transit as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7562</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am requesting blog change its name to something else.  I don&#039;t believe the focus of this blog is transit.  This blog reads more like a rail enthusiast or rail cheerleader blog.  I am politely and seriously requesting that you consider this request.  I feel like there&#039;s some bait and switch going on here.  I come here for transit information and talk, but the majority of it seems to be pro-rail propaganda.  I&#039;m not asking for you to cut back on the rail cheerleading, rather to change the blog title&#039;s to better reflect the content.  Might I suggest &quot;Seattle Rail Enthusiasts?&quot; 

Again, I am not being sarcastic.  This is a completely serious request.</description>
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I am requesting blog change its name to something else.  I don&#8217;t believe the focus of this blog is transit.  This blog reads more like a rail enthusiast or rail cheerleader blog.  I am politely and seriously requesting that you consider this request.  I feel like there&#8217;s some bait and switch going on here.  I come here for transit information and talk, but the majority of it seems to be pro-rail propaganda.  I&#8217;m not asking for you to cut back on the rail cheerleading, rather to change the blog title&#8217;s to better reflect the content.  Might I suggest &#8220;Seattle Rail Enthusiasts?&#8221; </p>
<p>Again, I am not being sarcastic.  This is a completely serious request.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7561</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opinion piece by Mayor Rybak of Minneapolis is pretty awesome, too. He got his Governor to put light rail on the new I-35 bridge and now he wants to make it possible for cities to use more federal money for transit.</description>
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The opinion piece by Mayor Rybak of Minneapolis is pretty awesome, too. He got his Governor to put light rail on the new I-35 bridge and now he wants to make it possible for cities to use more federal money for transit.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joshuadf</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/08/19/aubrey-davis-in-the-times/#comment-7557</link>
		<dc:creator>joshuadf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that he actually said &quot;the Eastside&quot; and not just Bellevue. I suspect you are still correct, but Redmond and Kirkland obviously have a few sq feet of office space too.</description>
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Note that he actually said &#8220;the Eastside&#8221; and not just Bellevue. I suspect you are still correct, but Redmond and Kirkland obviously have a few sq feet of office space too.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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