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		<title>By: Oran V</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21453</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you know someone at Sound Transit (or ST knows you) and can get a hard hat tour arranged, you have the lunch bus tours. Personally, I&#039;ve never been on one myself.

Last year&#039;s transit planning class at UW had a tour of the O&amp;M facility. A couple of STB bloggers got to tour the O&amp;M facility and the Tukwila Link station as well.</description>
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Unless you know someone at Sound Transit (or ST knows you) and can get a hard hat tour arranged, you have the lunch bus tours. Personally, I&#8217;ve never been on one myself.</p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s transit planning class at UW had a tour of the O&amp;M facility. A couple of STB bloggers got to tour the O&amp;M facility and the Tukwila Link station as well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Oran</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21451</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be Tully&#039;s expanding their offices. There&#039;s 2 elevator cores going up on site.</description>
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It could be Tully&#8217;s expanding their offices. There&#8217;s 2 elevator cores going up on site.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21421</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember though that the West Portal is set back a way from Airport Way, and about 25 feet above it, so most people won&#039;t see this entrance to the tunnel. Even if you&#039;re on Link you most likely won&#039;t see much of it as only the driver will have a clear ahead view and the passengers&#039; views will be off to the side. At best you&#039;ll probably catch a glimpse of the entrance to the opposite track just before you enter the tunnel.</description>
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Remember though that the West Portal is set back a way from Airport Way, and about 25 feet above it, so most people won&#8217;t see this entrance to the tunnel. Even if you&#8217;re on Link you most likely won&#8217;t see much of it as only the driver will have a clear ahead view and the passengers&#8217; views will be off to the side. At best you&#8217;ll probably catch a glimpse of the entrance to the opposite track just before you enter the tunnel.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21384</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks tim

i was planning to do a lunch time tour as part of a larger visit to seattle. i was hoping that it might have a behind the scenes portion but i&#039;m not surprised it doesn&#039;t.  i&#039;ll probably just wait until it opens to tour the system, though i&#039;m sure i&#039;ll visit seattle several times until then. afterall theres a fair bit to tour here in portland with the I-205 MAX line, downtown line and WES commuter rail.</description>
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thanks tim</p>
<p>i was planning to do a lunch time tour as part of a larger visit to seattle. i was hoping that it might have a behind the scenes portion but i&#8217;m not surprised it doesn&#8217;t.  i&#8217;ll probably just wait until it opens to tour the system, though i&#8217;m sure i&#8217;ll visit seattle several times until then. afterall theres a fair bit to tour here in portland with the I-205 MAX line, downtown line and WES commuter rail.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21370</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pete

For some reason I did not get ST&#039;s photo of the week emnail this week

It looks OK, nothing dramatic as an entry way - am kind of disappointed

Tim</description>
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Thanks Pete</p>
<p>For some reason I did not get ST&#8217;s photo of the week emnail this week</p>
<p>It looks OK, nothing dramatic as an entry way &#8211; am kind of disappointed</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21369</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am not sure I would all the way from Portland just to see the lunch time tour - if you are thinking that they will take you on a hard hat tour of yet-to-be-open stations and through the tunnel, then they do not do that!

I would wait until it is open.

Of course, please come to Seattle for other reasons!

Tim</description>
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Well I am not sure I would all the way from Portland just to see the lunch time tour &#8211; if you are thinking that they will take you on a hard hat tour of yet-to-be-open stations and through the tunnel, then they do not do that!</p>
<p>I would wait until it is open.</p>
<p>Of course, please come to Seattle for other reasons!</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21357</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are the sound transit chartered construction tours worth seeing? do you see anything that you otherwise couldnt see on your own?

i was considering planning a trip to seattle from portland around doing one of these tours but want to know if its worth it?</description>
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are the sound transit chartered construction tours worth seeing? do you see anything that you otherwise couldnt see on your own?</p>
<p>i was considering planning a trip to seattle from portland around doing one of these tours but want to know if its worth it?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21356</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since rail runs through both tunnels and the OCS is installed as well, it makes me wonder if they aren&#039;t talking about the Beacon Hill Station instead of the tunnel proper. We know from the agency progress reports that the station work (especially the elevators) is on the critical path for the whole project.</description>
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Since rail runs through both tunnels and the OCS is installed as well, it makes me wonder if they aren&#8217;t talking about the Beacon Hill Station instead of the tunnel proper. We know from the agency progress reports that the station work (especially the elevators) is on the critical path for the whole project.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BH</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21322</link>
		<dc:creator>BH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article in today&#039;s DJC states that ST says the Beacon Hill tunnel work will not be finished until May, but service is still scheduled to begin in July.</description>
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The article in today&#8217;s DJC states that ST says the Beacon Hill tunnel work will not be finished until May, but service is still scheduled to begin in July.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: SR Das</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21314</link>
		<dc:creator>SR Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me recall a time between 1998 and 2000 when the tunnel was open until 11 PM instead of the usual 7 PM on weeknights.  At least we&#039;ll get more local 71&#039;s, 72&#039;s and 73&#039;s (which travel via Fairview and Eastlake instead of I-5, a la the Express service that runs through most of the day) in the tunnel.  Most local 71&#039;s, 72&#039;s and 73&#039;s run when the tunnel is closed!</description>
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This makes me recall a time between 1998 and 2000 when the tunnel was open until 11 PM instead of the usual 7 PM on weeknights.  At least we&#8217;ll get more local 71&#8242;s, 72&#8242;s and 73&#8242;s (which travel via Fairview and Eastlake instead of I-5, a la the Express service that runs through most of the day) in the tunnel.  Most local 71&#8242;s, 72&#8242;s and 73&#8242;s run when the tunnel is closed!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21302</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ST photo-of-the-week this week is a pic of the West Portal. It can be seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soundtransit.org/x78.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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The ST photo-of-the-week this week is a pic of the West Portal. It can be seen <a href="http://www.soundtransit.org/x78.xml" rel="nofollow">here</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: L. Smith</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21298</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oran, alexjonlin, and I talked to an ST employee at one of the MLK events where they had a vehicle open. He told us it would be full-fare from day one (or at least day two). He said they&#039;ll have some grand opening stuff, and then the next morning, normal service. Here&#039;s hoping they have it free for at least the first weekend, lots of people would be here (4th of July), and if it&#039;s free, there&#039;s no harm in trying it out.</description>
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Oran, alexjonlin, and I talked to an ST employee at one of the MLK events where they had a vehicle open. He told us it would be full-fare from day one (or at least day two). He said they&#8217;ll have some grand opening stuff, and then the next morning, normal service. Here&#8217;s hoping they have it free for at least the first weekend, lots of people would be here (4th of July), and if it&#8217;s free, there&#8217;s no harm in trying it out.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: alexjonlin</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21284</link>
		<dc:creator>alexjonlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that&#039;s one of the big things that we don&#039;t talk about much. It will allow people like me who live in the U-District to have a seamless transfer from the 7X series to the Link and vice versa. And the latest ridership estimates were much lower than the earlier ones... they were saying that for the first couple months, they&#039;re expecting 25,000 or so per day. Let&#039;s hope they get proven wrong.</description>
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Yeah that&#8217;s one of the big things that we don&#8217;t talk about much. It will allow people like me who live in the U-District to have a seamless transfer from the 7X series to the Link and vice versa. And the latest ridership estimates were much lower than the earlier ones&#8230; they were saying that for the first couple months, they&#8217;re expecting 25,000 or so per day. Let&#8217;s hope they get proven wrong.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21279</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will be so nice. I&#039;ve often trie dto catch a southbound tunnel bus around 6:45, and I never know if I should try the tunnel in case there&#039;s still one headed out, or if the next will be on the surface streets. Getting rid of that confusion will be great.</description>
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This will be so nice. I&#8217;ve often trie dto catch a southbound tunnel bus around 6:45, and I never know if I should try the tunnel in case there&#8217;s still one headed out, or if the next will be on the surface streets. Getting rid of that confusion will be great.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bundridge</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21277</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bundridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct - When the final operating hours are decided, Link and buses will be in the tunnel during those hours. The transit tunnel itself will be open 7 days a week and for the last Link and bus.</description>
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Correct &#8211; When the final operating hours are decided, Link and buses will be in the tunnel during those hours. The transit tunnel itself will be open 7 days a week and for the last Link and bus.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21274</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So once Link begins operation will the downtown tunnel be open later at night?</description>
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So once Link begins operation will the downtown tunnel be open later at night?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bundridge</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21272</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bundridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the testing happens in segments as the contractors finish their work. Once that is done, they turn it over to Sound Transit to begin testing. This is what is happening between Othello and South 154th Street. 

Since the dead-wire testing is completed, except for the Northbound tunnel, I would have to assume they are awaiting for the contractors to finish up the wire at Walden Street before they begin testing between Mt. Baker Station and South 154th. Dead wire testing will need to be conducted on both tracks into the tunnel and the substation powered on by City Light which controls the power from Walden through the tunnel to the O&amp;M. I&#039;m not sure if their is redundancy but there is a substation at both ends of the tunnels. It could be separate each tunnel or redundant in case of a power outage/surge.

Sometime early next year, there should be a push through of several LRV&#039;s to the MLK side and starting in Feb/Mar should see testing ramp up between Walden and South 154th with daily at speed trains. I believe this main hold up is because the operator would not clear Walden Street with a 4 car LRV and it would be easier and safer for the operator to use the platform at Mt. Baker Station (like they are currently doing at Othello)

The most visible testing will be for now, South 154th to Othello, Othello to Walden (early 09), Walden to O&amp;M (March 09), then Westlake to South 154th (Spring 09)

Testing does in fact happen along MLK with a single car sometimes however expect trains at any time</description>
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Yeah the testing happens in segments as the contractors finish their work. Once that is done, they turn it over to Sound Transit to begin testing. This is what is happening between Othello and South 154th Street. </p>
<p>Since the dead-wire testing is completed, except for the Northbound tunnel, I would have to assume they are awaiting for the contractors to finish up the wire at Walden Street before they begin testing between Mt. Baker Station and South 154th. Dead wire testing will need to be conducted on both tracks into the tunnel and the substation powered on by City Light which controls the power from Walden through the tunnel to the O&amp;M. I&#8217;m not sure if their is redundancy but there is a substation at both ends of the tunnels. It could be separate each tunnel or redundant in case of a power outage/surge.</p>
<p>Sometime early next year, there should be a push through of several LRV&#8217;s to the MLK side and starting in Feb/Mar should see testing ramp up between Walden and South 154th with daily at speed trains. I believe this main hold up is because the operator would not clear Walden Street with a 4 car LRV and it would be easier and safer for the operator to use the platform at Mt. Baker Station (like they are currently doing at Othello)</p>
<p>The most visible testing will be for now, South 154th to Othello, Othello to Walden (early 09), Walden to O&amp;M (March 09), then Westlake to South 154th (Spring 09)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/link-light-rail-update/#comment-21269</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian

Have you seen any design pictures for the west portals of the Beacon Hill tunnel - will there be a dramatic entry way or something ordinary.

Also, do you know what they are constructing by Tullys on the I-5 - nothing Light Rail related I assume?

I confess to feeling slightly bored by all of ST&#039;s pronouncements on Light Rail testing as I have only seen one train running since they mentioned it.  They create the impression that it is a constant 24/7 testing when it clearly isn&#039;t and only in segments.

So long as they get it ready by July 3rd I guess its OK

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<p>Have you seen any design pictures for the west portals of the Beacon Hill tunnel &#8211; will there be a dramatic entry way or something ordinary.</p>
<p>Also, do you know what they are constructing by Tullys on the I-5 &#8211; nothing Light Rail related I assume?</p>
<p>I confess to feeling slightly bored by all of ST&#8217;s pronouncements on Light Rail testing as I have only seen one train running since they mentioned it.  They create the impression that it is a constant 24/7 testing when it clearly isn&#8217;t and only in segments.</p>
<p>So long as they get it ready by July 3rd I guess its OK</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bundridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Bundridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friday, July 3rd, 2009. No idea if it will be free ride for a couple of weeks (like most LRT openings) or if Beacon Hill Station will be finished by that point (Elevators)</description>
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Friday, July 3rd, 2009. No idea if it will be free ride for a couple of weeks (like most LRT openings) or if Beacon Hill Station will be finished by that point (Elevators)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NSBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>NSBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Potentially silly question.  When is Opening Day?  Has there been a definite date set?  The most I ever see when searching on this is &quot;Summer of 2009&quot;.</description>
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Potentially silly question.  When is Opening Day?  Has there been a definite date set?  The most I ever see when searching on this is &#8220;Summer of 2009&#8243;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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