Comments on: Yesler Terrace http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/ Transit in the Greater Seattle Area Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:48:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ryan http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21758 Ryan Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:59:03 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21758 Of course. To be honest, I just hope that the redevelopment does not include quite that much retail... espically given the planned Goodwill redevelopment not too far away. Of course. To be honest, I just hope that the redevelopment does not include quite that much retail… espically given the planned Goodwill redevelopment not too far away.

]]> By: Ben Schiendelman http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21537 Ben Schiendelman Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:59:18 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21537 I think the first tenants of the ground floor retail you see will be chains - but they'll age, and they'll get interesting, like the rest. I think the first tenants of the ground floor retail you see will be chains – but they’ll age, and they’ll get interesting, like the rest.

]]> By: Chris Stefan http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21445 Chris Stefan Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:35:01 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21445 I loved living just a couple blocks from Little Saigon. Eating at the delis was often cheaper than cooking at home even with the dirt cheap produce and meat from the local grocery stores and fruit stands. The restaurants are pretty damn good too, Malay Satay Hut, Tamarind Tree, Seven Stars Peppers, Pho Bac, etc. Reasonable housing can be found in the area if you look hard. There are some newer condos/townhomes and rentals. There are also some single family homes, though most of these are small and likely to be fixer-uppers. Most of the area rental stock is fairly run down sadly. In addition to the redevelopment at Yesler Terrace there is also the development on the former Goodwill site which should offer some housing options as well. I loved living just a couple blocks from Little Saigon. Eating at the delis was often cheaper than cooking at home even with the dirt cheap produce and meat from the local grocery stores and fruit stands. The restaurants are pretty damn good too, Malay Satay Hut, Tamarind Tree, Seven Stars Peppers, Pho Bac, etc.

Reasonable housing can be found in the area if you look hard. There are some newer condos/townhomes and rentals. There are also some single family homes, though most of these are small and likely to be fixer-uppers. Most of the area rental stock is fairly run down sadly.

In addition to the redevelopment at Yesler Terrace there is also the development on the former Goodwill site which should offer some housing options as well.

]]> By: Andrew Smith http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21366 Andrew Smith Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:01:37 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21366 That hill's not that bad. Especially going down! That hill’s not that bad. Especially going down!

]]> By: Ryan http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21343 Ryan Sat, 13 Dec 2008 11:29:33 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21343 I agree with you about Pioneer Square, however this is still a hell of a great site. In the past six years, I have spent a significant amount of time visiting the Terrace. The southern portion has a great view of Chinatown, and is steps from Little Saigon. Little Saigon may not be Pioneer Square for those who like to go clubbing. However, the area does have two fruit stands, a tofu factory w/store, FIVE actual grocery stores (plus the smaller Minh Tam's Market), three delis, a BBQ shop, and several restaurants. Honestly, if I could live in average to good market rate housing in this immediate area, I would. If the area had all of this with nicer residential above, it would be the mixed-use, mom & pop, walk-to-everything you need, ultra desirable urban enclave that everyone wants to live in. Of course, it is not as desirable due to the relatively higher-crime residential areas surrounding the commercial district, but this new development may just help change that.... it will bring prices up. Hopefully not enough to ruin the area with Subways and other chain restaurants. I agree with you about Pioneer Square, however this is still a hell of a great site. In the past six years, I have spent a significant amount of time visiting the Terrace. The southern portion has a great view of Chinatown, and is steps from Little Saigon.

Little Saigon may not be Pioneer Square for those who like to go clubbing. However, the area does have two fruit stands, a tofu factory w/store, FIVE actual grocery stores (plus the smaller Minh Tam’s Market), three delis, a BBQ shop, and several restaurants.

Honestly, if I could live in average to good market rate housing in this immediate area, I would. If the area had all of this with nicer residential above, it would be the mixed-use, mom & pop, walk-to-everything you need, ultra desirable urban enclave that everyone wants to live in.

Of course, it is not as desirable due to the relatively higher-crime residential areas surrounding the commercial district, but this new development may just help change that…. it will bring prices up. Hopefully not enough to ruin the area with Subways and other chain restaurants.

]]> By: Morgan Wick http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21337 Morgan Wick Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:31:45 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21337 I was just about to remark on the hill. I was just about to remark on the hill.

]]> By: Chris Stefan http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21330 Chris Stefan Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:45:56 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21330 Yesler Terrace may be "only" 4 blocks from the Pioneer Square station but between the steep hill, freeway crossing, and general pedestrian unfriendly environs it might as well be on the other side of the moon. Having lived in the area a few years back I'm glad to see the coming of the streetcar and the redevelopment of Yesler Terrace as well as what has been happening on 12th up near Seattle U. The only bad part about the revitalization of the neighborhood is it will drive prices up. ;-) Yesler Terrace may be “only” 4 blocks from the Pioneer Square station but between the steep hill, freeway crossing, and general pedestrian unfriendly environs it might as well be on the other side of the moon.

Having lived in the area a few years back I’m glad to see the coming of the streetcar and the redevelopment of Yesler Terrace as well as what has been happening on 12th up near Seattle U. The only bad part about the revitalization of the neighborhood is it will drive prices up. ;-)

]]> By: Oran V http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21320 Oran V Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:53:13 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21320 NewHolly and Rainier Vista once looked like Yesler Terrace. They've been redeveloped to more mixed-use, mixed-income traditional-style neighborhoods. The winding streets were replaced with a grid system. I'm sure Yesler Terrace would follow a similar trend. NewHolly and Rainier Vista once looked like Yesler Terrace. They’ve been redeveloped to more mixed-use, mixed-income traditional-style neighborhoods. The winding streets were replaced with a grid system. I’m sure Yesler Terrace would follow a similar trend.

]]> By: Andrew Smith http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21317 Andrew Smith Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:16:56 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21317 Me too, it's a lot more housing and a ton of office space. 1.5 million is about 6,000~10,000 workers. for contrast, Downtown Bellevue has 8.1 million sq ft total). Me too, it’s a lot more housing and a ton of office space. 1.5 million is about 6,000~10,000 workers. for contrast, Downtown Bellevue has 8.1 million sq ft total).

]]> By: Matt the Engineer http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21316 Matt the Engineer Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:59:21 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21316 How did I not know that? I'm in the city every day, go near that area constantly, but I don't think I've ever been on those streets. I'm glad they're changing it. How did I not know that? I’m in the city every day, go near that area constantly, but I don’t think I’ve ever been on those streets.

I’m glad they’re changing it.

]]> By: AJ http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21313 AJ Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:44:37 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21313 That's actually not the rendering, that's what Yesler Terrace looks like now. That’s actually not the rendering, that’s what Yesler Terrace looks like now.

]]> By: Matt the Engineer http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21312 Matt the Engineer Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:36:52 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21312 That map makes me a little nervous. It sure looks like a lot of parking and street space for a city. And the streets wind around like a suburb. Unless those buildings are really tall, this doesn't seem like a huge step up in density. Remember that anything that's built today will probably be around in 50 years. Take a look at just a little bit northwest from this development on the map. See all of those shadows, and all of the rooftop area? That looks much more dense than the short shadows and sparse roof area of this development. But then I'm basing this off a rendering, and could certainly be wrong. That map makes me a little nervous. It sure looks like a lot of parking and street space for a city. And the streets wind around like a suburb. Unless those buildings are really tall, this doesn’t seem like a huge step up in density. Remember that anything that’s built today will probably be around in 50 years.

Take a look at just a little bit northwest from this development on the map. See all of those shadows, and all of the rooftop area? That looks much more dense than the short shadows and sparse roof area of this development.

But then I’m basing this off a rendering, and could certainly be wrong.

]]> By: in other blogs : don’t worry, eventually you’ll get a snow day | Seattle Metblogs http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21310 in other blogs : don’t worry, eventually you’ll get a snow day | Seattle Metblogs Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:58:00 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21310 [...] Terrace is on deck for major development [seattletransitblog]. In other development news, the Twilight Exit is on its way out. Get some tater tots before [...] [...] Terrace is on deck for major development [seattletransitblog]. In other development news, the Twilight Exit is on its way out. Get some tater tots before [...]

]]> By: Andrew Smith http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21305 Andrew Smith Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:12:24 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21305 Ok updated. Ok updated.

]]> By: Andrew http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21303 Andrew Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:08:07 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21303 you're right. I'll find a better one. you’re right. I’ll find a better one.

]]> By: Pete http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/12/yesler-terrace/#comment-21297 Pete Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:37:47 +0000 http://seattletransitblog.com/?p=1360#comment-21297 Surely the yellow area in this map can't all be Yesler Terrace. Harborview is within this area, and it has a fairly sizeable campus. Surely the yellow area in this map can’t all be Yesler Terrace. Harborview is within this area, and it has a fairly sizeable campus.

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