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		<title>By: I-90 Move Just the Latest - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-39493</link>
		<dc:creator>I-90 Move Just the Latest - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the state has been short on cash for transportation with four big mega projects on the plate (the Ferry System overhaul, the Alaskan Way Viaduct replacement, the 520 bridge replacementand I-405 widening), and a ton of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tunnel it is - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-25139</link>
		<dc:creator>Tunnel it is - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] funded. That Times piece mentions $2.8 bn in state funding for the viaduct. Gregoire has put only $2.4 billion in her budget through 2017. Unless the state legistlature comes back with more funding than the $2.4 billion, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23837</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but I can&#039;t see how the cutting of SR167 is good:

I live in Milton, whose leaders did not have the gumption in the 50&#039;s to say &quot;Hey, we want an exit too!&quot; off of I-5. As it is currently, you need to drive way down to Fife at 54th Ave or up to Federal Way. There is a serious glut of commuters on 20th St E and Hwy 99 as a result. On top of that you have Fife High School right there on 20th, and all the juniors and seniors that seem to think they are too cool for the school bus anymore. It is a bona fide mess, Way more cars than a 2 lane road was designed for.

From the standpoint of a traffic calming initiative, I don&#039;t think it get any better than this. You have an unfinished section of freeway that local truck traffic could desperately use, but instead the surface streets are clogged.

It would be along the lines of I-205 in the Portland area: an alternative route for all the short haul traffic throughout the Kent valley.

While I am all for Amtrak Cascades and Sounder as much as the next guy that reads his blog, respectfully, I think this conclusion is wrong. We have SR 509 which leads out of the port to just stub at Alexander Ave, and where do all the trucks go?

We have I-5 which skirts the very tip of the port, only to have a helluva bottleneck at Port of Tacoma road.

In summation, this is one project that would help the Port of Tacoma grow, and even help the railroads as an extension of that.

@ Mr Cascadian: If I am not mistaken the money in the new authorization bill is matching money, not just straight funding. It would be nice, but I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll have anything out of that unless the budget for that increases. Also, it is for things like capital projects like stations and track but not necessarily for operations. I may be wrong, this is my understanding.</description>
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I&#8217;m sorry, but I can&#8217;t see how the cutting of SR167 is good:</p>
<p>I live in Milton, whose leaders did not have the gumption in the 50&#8242;s to say &#8220;Hey, we want an exit too!&#8221; off of I-5. As it is currently, you need to drive way down to Fife at 54th Ave or up to Federal Way. There is a serious glut of commuters on 20th St E and Hwy 99 as a result. On top of that you have Fife High School right there on 20th, and all the juniors and seniors that seem to think they are too cool for the school bus anymore. It is a bona fide mess, Way more cars than a 2 lane road was designed for.</p>
<p>From the standpoint of a traffic calming initiative, I don&#8217;t think it get any better than this. You have an unfinished section of freeway that local truck traffic could desperately use, but instead the surface streets are clogged.</p>
<p>It would be along the lines of I-205 in the Portland area: an alternative route for all the short haul traffic throughout the Kent valley.</p>
<p>While I am all for Amtrak Cascades and Sounder as much as the next guy that reads his blog, respectfully, I think this conclusion is wrong. We have SR 509 which leads out of the port to just stub at Alexander Ave, and where do all the trucks go?</p>
<p>We have I-5 which skirts the very tip of the port, only to have a helluva bottleneck at Port of Tacoma road.</p>
<p>In summation, this is one project that would help the Port of Tacoma grow, and even help the railroads as an extension of that.</p>
<p>@ Mr Cascadian: If I am not mistaken the money in the new authorization bill is matching money, not just straight funding. It would be nice, but I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll have anything out of that unless the budget for that increases. Also, it is for things like capital projects like stations and track but not necessarily for operations. I may be wrong, this is my understanding.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cascadian</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23372</link>
		<dc:creator>cascadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Amtrak figures seem off to me. If 2.1 million is 5.7% of the WA state Amtrak subsidy, that would make it 36 million or so. I didn&#039;t think the subsidy was that big (but I could very well be wrong)

Will the grants in the new Amtrak authorization be able to cover some of that loss? Doesn&#039;t it have a lot of money available for state-sponsored lines?</description>
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The Amtrak figures seem off to me. If 2.1 million is 5.7% of the WA state Amtrak subsidy, that would make it 36 million or so. I didn&#8217;t think the subsidy was that big (but I could very well be wrong)</p>
<p>Will the grants in the new Amtrak authorization be able to cover some of that loss? Doesn&#8217;t it have a lot of money available for state-sponsored lines?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23346</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur Andrew!

Gregoire seems incapable of making a leadership decision about anything - the viaduct is now the latest to stall her efforts.

The inauguration of Obama can&#039;t come quick enough but it won&#039;t be all peaches and cream as we know.  I still do not see much emphasis on rail expansion and rehabilitation, although as I understand it, Amtrak is funded again and has a capital budget for the first time since 1997 - I believe I read that in the New York Times over the weekend.  I lose track of where I have read things these days, such is our anxiety.

Coming back to Gregoire, I still want to know what happened to protecting the values of the &quot;great State of Washington&quot;.  It is really making me angry to say the least of it.

We need stimulus money to protect the poor, enhance the Puget Sound to viability and to fund so many &#039;shovel ready&#039; projects.  I just can&#039;t believe that the Point Defiance bypass could be neglected or that Sounder to Lakewood could be delayed.  We can&#039;t keep putting these projects off and delaying them.....

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I concur Andrew!</p>
<p>Gregoire seems incapable of making a leadership decision about anything &#8211; the viaduct is now the latest to stall her efforts.</p>
<p>The inauguration of Obama can&#8217;t come quick enough but it won&#8217;t be all peaches and cream as we know.  I still do not see much emphasis on rail expansion and rehabilitation, although as I understand it, Amtrak is funded again and has a capital budget for the first time since 1997 &#8211; I believe I read that in the New York Times over the weekend.  I lose track of where I have read things these days, such is our anxiety.</p>
<p>Coming back to Gregoire, I still want to know what happened to protecting the values of the &#8220;great State of Washington&#8221;.  It is really making me angry to say the least of it.</p>
<p>We need stimulus money to protect the poor, enhance the Puget Sound to viability and to fund so many &#8216;shovel ready&#8217; projects.  I just can&#8217;t believe that the Point Defiance bypass could be neglected or that Sounder to Lakewood could be delayed.  We can&#8217;t keep putting these projects off and delaying them&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23342</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The situation with the ferries is dire. The ferry system was in need of re-capitalization 20 years ago. Deferred maintenance and the lack of a dedicated capital funding source is really starting to catch up with the ferry system. The Rhododendron and Evergreen State boats aren&#039;t many years or much more deferred maintenance from being in the same shape as the Steel Electrics before they were pulled. Past that the big elephant in the room is the aging of the Super Class. Those boats start hitting 50 years old in 2017. The Jumbo I boats start hitting 50 in 2022 and will need replacement or refurbishment as well.

Pushing new boats except for the single island home past 2016 means the ferry system is again in a &quot;do or die&quot; situation in 8-10 years if some other crisis prevents the purchase of new boats at that point. Even with the reduced service levels of &quot;Plan B&quot; the ferry system may find itself having to cut service below even those levels.

The only real good news is many powerful state legislators will be hopping mad about the &quot;plan B&quot; proposal. Furthermore it may be enough to get Rep. Dicks (Bremerton) and Rep. Insley (Bainbridge) involved in a major way, perhaps Sen. Murray as well. Dicks and Murray both have a fair bit of power in Congress and may be able to get some earmarks for the ferry system. Insley is rumored to be interested in running for governor in 2012, helping to line up some Federal money for the ferry system can&#039;t hurt that effort.

Another thing that might help in securing Federal funding for new boats is both additional Island Home boats and the new 144 boats are pretty much &quot;shovel ready&quot;.</description>
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The situation with the ferries is dire. The ferry system was in need of re-capitalization 20 years ago. Deferred maintenance and the lack of a dedicated capital funding source is really starting to catch up with the ferry system. The Rhododendron and Evergreen State boats aren&#8217;t many years or much more deferred maintenance from being in the same shape as the Steel Electrics before they were pulled. Past that the big elephant in the room is the aging of the Super Class. Those boats start hitting 50 years old in 2017. The Jumbo I boats start hitting 50 in 2022 and will need replacement or refurbishment as well.</p>
<p>Pushing new boats except for the single island home past 2016 means the ferry system is again in a &#8220;do or die&#8221; situation in 8-10 years if some other crisis prevents the purchase of new boats at that point. Even with the reduced service levels of &#8220;Plan B&#8221; the ferry system may find itself having to cut service below even those levels.</p>
<p>The only real good news is many powerful state legislators will be hopping mad about the &#8220;plan B&#8221; proposal. Furthermore it may be enough to get Rep. Dicks (Bremerton) and Rep. Insley (Bainbridge) involved in a major way, perhaps Sen. Murray as well. Dicks and Murray both have a fair bit of power in Congress and may be able to get some earmarks for the ferry system. Insley is rumored to be interested in running for governor in 2012, helping to line up some Federal money for the ferry system can&#8217;t hurt that effort.</p>
<p>Another thing that might help in securing Federal funding for new boats is both additional Island Home boats and the new 144 boats are pretty much &#8220;shovel ready&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joshuadf</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23334</link>
		<dc:creator>joshuadf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is government budget 101: Leave important things out of the budget (including SR-520 and Viaduct, or often schools) so that people will scream. Then you can say &quot;well, I guess we have to tax or cut elsewhere&quot; because of the &quot;crisis&quot;.</description>
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This is government budget 101: Leave important things out of the budget (including SR-520 and Viaduct, or often schools) so that people will scream. Then you can say &#8220;well, I guess we have to tax or cut elsewhere&#8221; because of the &#8220;crisis&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounder to Lakewood was part of Sound Move - it&#039;s been delayed several times. The requirement for an overpass is the latest thing driving up the cost.</description>
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Sounder to Lakewood was part of Sound Move &#8211; it&#8217;s been delayed several times. The requirement for an overpass is the latest thing driving up the cost.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We haven&#039;t seen the Alt-A or A-paper (prime) defaults yet.

I don&#039;t think the market will bottom for quite some time. There are still a lot of mortgages out there that have yet to reset. I don&#039;t know if these interest rate resets will cause rates to go up dramatically anymore, but we&#039;ve only seen a big group of 2-3 year resets and some 5 year resets, as I understand it, and there are more 5 and 7 year resets yet to come.

I could be wrong about that, but I&#039;m also not the only one to suggest it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/12/60minutes/main4666112.shtml</description>
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We haven&#8217;t seen the Alt-A or A-paper (prime) defaults yet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the market will bottom for quite some time. There are still a lot of mortgages out there that have yet to reset. I don&#8217;t know if these interest rate resets will cause rates to go up dramatically anymore, but we&#8217;ve only seen a big group of 2-3 year resets and some 5 year resets, as I understand it, and there are more 5 and 7 year resets yet to come.</p>
<p>I could be wrong about that, but I&#8217;m also not the only one to suggest it:<br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/12/60minutes/main4666112.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/12/60minutes/main4666112.shtml</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23326</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that if ST gets stimulus money for Tacoma to Lakewood, it&#039;ll happen, we just won&#039;t see the improvements from Lakewood to Nisqually or the second track from South Tacoma to Lakewood. Sounder will still be built - again, assuming stimulus funds.</description>
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I think that if ST gets stimulus money for Tacoma to Lakewood, it&#8217;ll happen, we just won&#8217;t see the improvements from Lakewood to Nisqually or the second track from South Tacoma to Lakewood. Sounder will still be built &#8211; again, assuming stimulus funds.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Cascadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cascadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This budget hurts, but I don&#039;t think Gregoire is the problem. The revenue just isn&#039;t there for any of the states, and Obama has yet to come out and promise that he&#039;ll provide federal support not just for infrastructure spending and stimulus but specifically to make up short-term revenue shortfalls at the state level. He should commit to providing federal support to keep the money for the states at pre-recession levels. I think that would be about $100 billion annually until the recession ends. The recovery/stimulus plan should be on top of that, starting with shovel-ready projects identified by the governors. The third tier needs to be infrastructure spending for the long term, and that&#039;s where mass transit needs to be funded.

The problem is that aside from the dollar number the incoming Obama administration is still thinking too small. Without bolder thinking, the governors are stuck with cutting budgets going into a recession. This will prolong the recession and could very well make it a Depression.</description>
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This budget hurts, but I don&#8217;t think Gregoire is the problem. The revenue just isn&#8217;t there for any of the states, and Obama has yet to come out and promise that he&#8217;ll provide federal support not just for infrastructure spending and stimulus but specifically to make up short-term revenue shortfalls at the state level. He should commit to providing federal support to keep the money for the states at pre-recession levels. I think that would be about $100 billion annually until the recession ends. The recovery/stimulus plan should be on top of that, starting with shovel-ready projects identified by the governors. The third tier needs to be infrastructure spending for the long term, and that&#8217;s where mass transit needs to be funded.</p>
<p>The problem is that aside from the dollar number the incoming Obama administration is still thinking too small. Without bolder thinking, the governors are stuck with cutting budgets going into a recession. This will prolong the recession and could very well make it a Depression.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power is behind Seattle and the Seattle Metro area, but the pandering is always and always will be toward Eastern Washington after the Boeing bust. Unless Seattle and King County&#039;s population swells suddenly, it&#039;s hard to imagine that changing anytime soon.</description>
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The power is behind Seattle and the Seattle Metro area, but the pandering is always and always will be toward Eastern Washington after the Boeing bust. Unless Seattle and King County&#8217;s population swells suddenly, it&#8217;s hard to imagine that changing anytime soon.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Viaduct Decision Delayed - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viaduct Decision Delayed - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I support, despite concerns that it could make Western Avenue less friendly for pedestrians. But with the state out of money, I wonder how the extra cost for these more ambitious options would get paid [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregoire is really really bad. She owes her re-election entirely to Barack Obama. She should mail him half her pay checks as re-payment.</description>
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		<title>By: lavarock</title>
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		<dc:creator>lavarock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sound Transit owns the tracks from Tacoma to at least Lakewood if not all the way to Dupont. Work should begin &quot;soon.&quot; There have been articles in the News Tribune about certain businesses that would have to foot the bill to improve the tracks to their locations if it branched off the ST line. I just hope these cuts won&#039;t effect the Pacific Ave overpass, the main project for rail to get to Lakewood.</description>
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Sound Transit owns the tracks from Tacoma to at least Lakewood if not all the way to Dupont. Work should begin &#8220;soon.&#8221; There have been articles in the News Tribune about certain businesses that would have to foot the bill to improve the tracks to their locations if it branched off the ST line. I just hope these cuts won&#8217;t effect the Pacific Ave overpass, the main project for rail to get to Lakewood.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have had a long string of terrible governors in this state.  Which is painful to admit, as a life-long Democrat.  My God, even Mike Lowry (the liberal&#039;s liberal) was absolutely terrible on mass transit.  

Things have only gone downhill since Lowry.  In some ways, it would have been better if a roadhog clown like Rossi had won the last election.  Then, at least, these lazy pseudo-Democrats would step up for once.  Right now, we&#039;re stuck with backwards &quot;leaders&quot; who make fine pronouncements about global warming and mass transit. (house and senate leadership lowers the bar to subterranean levels)  

Then, they do everything within their means to make sure absolutely ZERO progress is made on the most important issues out there.  

It really couldn&#039;t get any worse.</description>
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We have had a long string of terrible governors in this state.  Which is painful to admit, as a life-long Democrat.  My God, even Mike Lowry (the liberal&#8217;s liberal) was absolutely terrible on mass transit.  </p>
<p>Things have only gone downhill since Lowry.  In some ways, it would have been better if a roadhog clown like Rossi had won the last election.  Then, at least, these lazy pseudo-Democrats would step up for once.  Right now, we&#8217;re stuck with backwards &#8220;leaders&#8221; who make fine pronouncements about global warming and mass transit. (house and senate leadership lowers the bar to subterranean levels)  </p>
<p>Then, they do everything within their means to make sure absolutely ZERO progress is made on the most important issues out there.  </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2008/12/30/transportation-in-the-govs-budget/#comment-23269</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought we just voted through ST2 for funding Sounder to Lakewood.  It really makes me sick to the core that the States set up so many expectations that they end up not being able to fulfill.

Gregoire has been disappointing since her re-election which she said was supposed to be all about preserving the values of Washingtonians against Rossi&#039;s hatchet policies.  She has certainly come up with a budget that has no relation to her re-election campaign promises of preserving the values of the citizens of our State.

I just hope the legislature reinstates some of what we have been asking for on this blog.

Step inside and up to the plate, Mr Obama</description>
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I thought we just voted through ST2 for funding Sounder to Lakewood.  It really makes me sick to the core that the States set up so many expectations that they end up not being able to fulfill.</p>
<p>Gregoire has been disappointing since her re-election which she said was supposed to be all about preserving the values of Washingtonians against Rossi&#8217;s hatchet policies.  She has certainly come up with a budget that has no relation to her re-election campaign promises of preserving the values of the citizens of our State.</p>
<p>I just hope the legislature reinstates some of what we have been asking for on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seattle is the top commercial and residential market (bar condos, ha!) in the country and the dead cat bounce is over so we&#039;re around the floor (+/- 800pts on the DJIA) with little devaluation expected beyond what we&#039;re at. What needs to happen is a re-moralization of the country, something that&#039;s possible with most anything proposed, including infrastructure investment.

What needs to be done for transit above all else is a re-thinking of the schemes surrounding federal funding. The economy will come back, but will transit follow? It won&#039;t if there isn&#039;t a serious rethinking of the way we fund it on the federal and state levels.

When a state presents its budget, it knows that the first biennium is the foundation for the following ones. Since there&#039;s a clear lag, it&#039;s likely that funding will remain fairly static from here into the next, but from beyond that point, assuming a standard (or even sub-standard) recovery, it&#039;s hard to say firmly that we won&#039;t get that money back.

So Gregoire is playing this smart, especially the possum game with the AWV. Federally? Not so well. I think she&#039;s missing a boat by not urging revamping policy in key areas we&#039;re lacking.</description>
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Seattle is the top commercial and residential market (bar condos, ha!) in the country and the dead cat bounce is over so we&#8217;re around the floor (+/- 800pts on the DJIA) with little devaluation expected beyond what we&#8217;re at. What needs to happen is a re-moralization of the country, something that&#8217;s possible with most anything proposed, including infrastructure investment.</p>
<p>What needs to be done for transit above all else is a re-thinking of the schemes surrounding federal funding. The economy will come back, but will transit follow? It won&#8217;t if there isn&#8217;t a serious rethinking of the way we fund it on the federal and state levels.</p>
<p>When a state presents its budget, it knows that the first biennium is the foundation for the following ones. Since there&#8217;s a clear lag, it&#8217;s likely that funding will remain fairly static from here into the next, but from beyond that point, assuming a standard (or even sub-standard) recovery, it&#8217;s hard to say firmly that we won&#8217;t get that money back.</p>
<p>So Gregoire is playing this smart, especially the possum game with the AWV. Federally? Not so well. I think she&#8217;s missing a boat by not urging revamping policy in key areas we&#8217;re lacking.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there&#039;s no way to formally request funds at the moment. The economic recovery plan has to pass first!</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the WADOT project page Sound Transit is supposedly taking care of the Tacoma to Lakewood portion of the Pt. Defiance bypass. Furthermore the funding shortfall is fairly small so perhaps the money can be found somewhere.</description>
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According to the WADOT project page Sound Transit is supposedly taking care of the Tacoma to Lakewood portion of the Pt. Defiance bypass. Furthermore the funding shortfall is fairly small so perhaps the money can be found somewhere.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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