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	<title>Comments on: Further Delays for East Link in House Transpo Budget</title>
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		<title>By: House Funds R8A, Sets Stage for East Link Negotiations - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-38839</link>
		<dc:creator>House Funds R8A, Sets Stage for East Link Negotiations - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (pdf) for light rail use of the I-90 center lanes. This amendment was offered in contrast to dramatic language in the proposed budget which excluded Sound Transit from the valuation of those lanes. [...]</description>
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[...] (pdf) for light rail use of the I-90 center lanes. This amendment was offered in contrast to dramatic language in the proposed budget which excluded Sound Transit from the valuation of those lanes. [...]<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37122</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They believe those express lanes are more valuable for cars that barely use them and don&#039;t really help traffic? Do we have the same people in the Senate and House down in Olympia? If so, you know what they do best and will continue to do it. Why do these people care about there own interest over the interest of the majority? This is nothing but corruption and BS from representatives. Either go with the voters or get the hell out. Can we recall these lunatics for putting there self interest over the voters interests?</description>
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They believe those express lanes are more valuable for cars that barely use them and don&#8217;t really help traffic? Do we have the same people in the Senate and House down in Olympia? If so, you know what they do best and will continue to do it. Why do these people care about there own interest over the interest of the majority? This is nothing but corruption and BS from representatives. Either go with the voters or get the hell out. Can we recall these lunatics for putting there self interest over the voters interests?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Pressure Mounts on R8A, State Transit Support - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37120</link>
		<dc:creator>Pressure Mounts on R8A, State Transit Support - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] needed to run light rail along that corridor, has recently escalated to what appears to be nearly outright hostility to the light rail plan that voter&#8217;s approved last year. One move we didn&#8217;t [...]</description>
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[...] needed to run light rail along that corridor, has recently escalated to what appears to be nearly outright hostility to the light rail plan that voter&#8217;s approved last year. One move we didn&#8217;t [...]<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37078</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Segment E (Overlake to downtown Redmond) has a cost estimate ranging from $570 to $790 million. Even the low end of that range is far more than the difference between any two segment D alignments.

I don&#039;t have a reference at hand, but I&#039;m pretty sure the Sound Transit board has said they won&#039;t pay the cost difference between at-grade or elevated alignments for segment C and tunnel alignments. Bellevue is going to have to come up with the funding if they want a tunnel.

Again this is an issue where the money simply isn&#039;t there. East Link doesn&#039;t make sense and won&#039;t get Federal funding if it doesn&#039;t make it to Overlake Transit Center. Sound Transit can do that within the expected funding if the route through downtown Bellevue is at-grade or elevated.

Now it is entirely possible that when all is said and done Sound Transit might be able to get enough federal funding to cover a majority of the additional costs of a downtown Bellevue tunnel and connecting to downtown Redmond. But until that picture is a bit clearer I wouldn&#039;t count on it.</description>
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Segment E (Overlake to downtown Redmond) has a cost estimate ranging from $570 to $790 million. Even the low end of that range is far more than the difference between any two segment D alignments.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a reference at hand, but I&#8217;m pretty sure the Sound Transit board has said they won&#8217;t pay the cost difference between at-grade or elevated alignments for segment C and tunnel alignments. Bellevue is going to have to come up with the funding if they want a tunnel.</p>
<p>Again this is an issue where the money simply isn&#8217;t there. East Link doesn&#8217;t make sense and won&#8217;t get Federal funding if it doesn&#8217;t make it to Overlake Transit Center. Sound Transit can do that within the expected funding if the route through downtown Bellevue is at-grade or elevated.</p>
<p>Now it is entirely possible that when all is said and done Sound Transit might be able to get enough federal funding to cover a majority of the additional costs of a downtown Bellevue tunnel and connecting to downtown Redmond. But until that picture is a bit clearer I wouldn&#8217;t count on it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37055</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernie, no one thought we&#039;d build the absolute cheapest alignment which is why no one ever said we&#039;d be building to Redmond. Yes, if the stars aligned and we got a bunch of Federal support and built everything on the cheap then maybe we could get to Redmond (&lt;b&gt;if the I-90 project isn&#039;t delayed!&lt;/b&gt;). However, building a transit system on the cheap doesn&#039;t always mean that you&#039;ve built a good transit system. I&#039;d rather do it right and get light rail to Redmond a few years later.</description>
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Bernie, no one thought we&#8217;d build the absolute cheapest alignment which is why no one ever said we&#8217;d be building to Redmond. Yes, if the stars aligned and we got a bunch of Federal support and built everything on the cheap then maybe we could get to Redmond (<b>if the I-90 project isn&#8217;t delayed!</b>). However, building a transit system on the cheap doesn&#8217;t always mean that you&#8217;ve built a good transit system. I&#8217;d rather do it right and get light rail to Redmond a few years later.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37054</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WSDOT isn&#039;t evil, but their mandate is to build roads -- something we&#039;re opposed to. Similarly, Sound Transit&#039;s mandate is to build &lt;b&gt;rail&lt;/b&gt;. Money isn&#039;t being spent &quot;frivolously&quot; on light rail. We voted for a light rail plan, not for more buses. The voters want light rail. If they just wanted buses, Prop. 1 would have failed.

Your community and the entire region approved the project. The I-90 alignment was the most certain part of the entire East Link plan. &lt;b&gt;Voters approved the I-90 alignment&lt;/b&gt;.

I sincerely apologize that voters see the issues differently than you, but let&#039;s not sit here and have the same conversation that I&#039;ve been having for the last few years. The conversation ended last November. It&#039;s over. We&#039;re building light rail, and the state blocking it for trivial or bureaucratic reasons is &lt;b&gt;not how you develop good policy nor transportation&lt;/b&gt;. Charging taxpayers $1bn for a project they already own is &lt;b&gt;absurd&lt;/b&gt;. These facts shouldn&#039;t change just because one wants BRT or BNSF or more roads. This is not good government -- it&#039;s obstructionism.</description>
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WSDOT isn&#8217;t evil, but their mandate is to build roads &#8212; something we&#8217;re opposed to. Similarly, Sound Transit&#8217;s mandate is to build <b>rail</b>. Money isn&#8217;t being spent &#8220;frivolously&#8221; on light rail. We voted for a light rail plan, not for more buses. The voters want light rail. If they just wanted buses, Prop. 1 would have failed.</p>
<p>Your community and the entire region approved the project. The I-90 alignment was the most certain part of the entire East Link plan. <b>Voters approved the I-90 alignment</b>.</p>
<p>I sincerely apologize that voters see the issues differently than you, but let&#8217;s not sit here and have the same conversation that I&#8217;ve been having for the last few years. The conversation ended last November. It&#8217;s over. We&#8217;re building light rail, and the state blocking it for trivial or bureaucratic reasons is <b>not how you develop good policy nor transportation</b>. Charging taxpayers $1bn for a project they already own is <b>absurd</b>. These facts shouldn&#8217;t change just because one wants BRT or BNSF or more roads. This is not good government &#8212; it&#8217;s obstructionism.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37037</link>
		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft should fund the tunnel and get a tax write off.  MS is going to have a huge benefit from East link and having a tunnel means better reliability and speed to Overlake.</description>
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Microsoft should fund the tunnel and get a tax write off.  MS is going to have a huge benefit from East link and having a tunnel means better reliability and speed to Overlake.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37028</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I&#039;ve been saying ;)

This is why this is so political, it&#039;s play along or get screwed, basically. Too bad Mass Transit Now! doesn&#039;t have funds enough to run ads on the Eastside saying &quot;Olympia has decided that the Light Rail plan you voted for is invalid. They&#039;ve doomed you to congestion. While the I-5 corridor expands and grows, the Eastside will be left in the exhaust.&quot;

Or pool cash to send Joni Earl to Washington D.C. with Sen. Murray and say &quot;this is why states should not get so much sway over transit funding, when you re-do SAFETEA-LU, make sure clauses allow regional authorities and individual cities the right to use this money without state permission.&quot;</description>
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That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been saying ;)</p>
<p>This is why this is so political, it&#8217;s play along or get screwed, basically. Too bad Mass Transit Now! doesn&#8217;t have funds enough to run ads on the Eastside saying &#8220;Olympia has decided that the Light Rail plan you voted for is invalid. They&#8217;ve doomed you to congestion. While the I-5 corridor expands and grows, the Eastside will be left in the exhaust.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or pool cash to send Joni Earl to Washington D.C. with Sen. Murray and say &#8220;this is why states should not get so much sway over transit funding, when you re-do SAFETEA-LU, make sure clauses allow regional authorities and individual cities the right to use this money without state permission.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37024</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, my Central District neighborhood has a ton of Microsofties. But it is a huge company :)</description>
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I dunno, my Central District neighborhood has a ton of Microsofties. But it is a huge company :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37011</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High estimate for D3 $870M. Low estimate for D5 $530M. Difference $340M. Low estimate for D2 $570M. City of Redmond Estimate for what was esentially a D2 alignment (2006 dollars and doesn&#039;t cover Overlake Transit down to Sammamish Slew) $70M. There&#039;s over $1.1B between the low and high cost estimates for Segment C and nothing in the Draft EIS or ballot measure saying anything about Bellevue agrees to fund any extra costs associated with a tunnel. Clearly a system withing the budget guidelines of what ST has proposed could extend to Redmond but it&#039;s held hostage by the &quot;when funds become available&quot; which they magically determined to be one year later... yeah right.</description>
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High estimate for D3 $870M. Low estimate for D5 $530M. Difference $340M. Low estimate for D2 $570M. City of Redmond Estimate for what was esentially a D2 alignment (2006 dollars and doesn&#8217;t cover Overlake Transit down to Sammamish Slew) $70M. There&#8217;s over $1.1B between the low and high cost estimates for Segment C and nothing in the Draft EIS or ballot measure saying anything about Bellevue agrees to fund any extra costs associated with a tunnel. Clearly a system withing the budget guidelines of what ST has proposed could extend to Redmond but it&#8217;s held hostage by the &#8220;when funds become available&#8221; which they magically determined to be one year later&#8230; yeah right.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-37000</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The implied sub 10 minute headways 20 hours a day on the multiple choice Draft EIS routes are a joke. None of this are what was voted for or can even be delivered.

Read through &lt;a href=&quot;http://your.kingcounty.gov/elections/contests/measureinfo.aspx?cid=31890&amp;eid=1226&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what was actually on the ballot&lt;/a&gt;, note how many times the phrase &quot;generally described&quot; appears; more ominously, &quot;the Board in its discretion shall determine to be appropriate&quot;.

Nice how the ballot measure put buses first in all the statements. Amazing how WSDOT who is at the mercy of funding from the Legislature is portrayed as a villain on this blog and ST with it&#039;s deep pocket construction and development supporters is the champion of the common man and saving the planet. Yet who does ST turn to for engineering and construction management? Yep, WSDOT.

Most of the principles on this blog express a desire for more buses yet ignore the fact every dollar spent frivolously on light rail decreases money for buses (or is in denial that one red cent of ST spending is frivolous).</description>
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The implied sub 10 minute headways 20 hours a day on the multiple choice Draft EIS routes are a joke. None of this are what was voted for or can even be delivered.</p>
<p>Read through <a href="http://your.kingcounty.gov/elections/contests/measureinfo.aspx?cid=31890&amp;eid=1226" rel="nofollow">what was actually on the ballot</a>, note how many times the phrase &#8220;generally described&#8221; appears; more ominously, &#8220;the Board in its discretion shall determine to be appropriate&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nice how the ballot measure put buses first in all the statements. Amazing how WSDOT who is at the mercy of funding from the Legislature is portrayed as a villain on this blog and ST with it&#8217;s deep pocket construction and development supporters is the champion of the common man and saving the planet. Yet who does ST turn to for engineering and construction management? Yep, WSDOT.</p>
<p>Most of the principles on this blog express a desire for more buses yet ignore the fact every dollar spent frivolously on light rail decreases money for buses (or is in denial that one red cent of ST spending is frivolous).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-36995</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris is right. Prop. 1 specifically didn&#039;t fund light rail to DT Redmond. It funds preliminary engineering and environmental review.</description>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-36994</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernie, while everyone here knows that an alignment has not been selected, the possible and probable alignments were available before the election. Absolutely, no included a spur on the BNSF along the 405/522 corridor. None had single-tracking or 30 minute headways. These would be a massive shift from what voters approved, and would be silly to do.</description>
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Bernie, while everyone here knows that an alignment has not been selected, the possible and probable alignments were available before the election. Absolutely, no included a spur on the BNSF along the 405/522 corridor. None had single-tracking or 30 minute headways. These would be a massive shift from what voters approved, and would be silly to do.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-36988</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No you wouldn&#039;t need Paul Allen. While it wouldn&#039;t be easy an unknown could still take out an incumbent without self-funding the race.

There are ways of raising money outside the usual suspects as well.

Really what it takes is the right person who is willing to fight for it.

Saying an incumbent can&#039;t be defeated gives incumbency more power than it really deserves.</description>
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No you wouldn&#8217;t need Paul Allen. While it wouldn&#8217;t be easy an unknown could still take out an incumbent without self-funding the race.</p>
<p>There are ways of raising money outside the usual suspects as well.</p>
<p>Really what it takes is the right person who is willing to fight for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-36986</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh? Prop 1 showed the Overlake to Redmond segment wasn&#039;t funded. The extension would happen if there were extra funds (which there may still be).

Sound Transit has made it clear they aren&#039;t going to pay for a tunnel alignment in Bellevue. The cost difference will need to be covered by the City.

We still don&#039;t know what Sound Transit will select as its preferred alignment though I suspect the preferences of the City of Bellevue and Redmond will carry some weight.

I don&#039;t have the DEIS numbers in front of me but I have a hard time believing the difference between D2A and D5 would cover the cost of E2, particularly the 3 station option. I don&#039;t believe D3 is likely to be selected given the cost and that it gains nothing over the D2 alignments.</description>
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Huh? Prop 1 showed the Overlake to Redmond segment wasn&#8217;t funded. The extension would happen if there were extra funds (which there may still be).</p>
<p>Sound Transit has made it clear they aren&#8217;t going to pay for a tunnel alignment in Bellevue. The cost difference will need to be covered by the City.</p>
<p>We still don&#8217;t know what Sound Transit will select as its preferred alignment though I suspect the preferences of the City of Bellevue and Redmond will carry some weight.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the DEIS numbers in front of me but I have a hard time believing the difference between D2A and D5 would cover the cost of E2, particularly the 3 station option. I don&#8217;t believe D3 is likely to be selected given the cost and that it gains nothing over the D2 alignments.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-36984</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What it would take is a self supporting candidate. Someone who already has name recognition and it invulnerable to political attacks. Paul Allen could pull it off. Mmm, no East Link. Does that put South Lake Union in a better position or worse position? Still have the center roadway to get in to check up on business...</description>
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What it would take is a self supporting candidate. Someone who already has name recognition and it invulnerable to political attacks. Paul Allen could pull it off. Mmm, no East Link. Does that put South Lake Union in a better position or worse position? Still have the center roadway to get in to check up on business&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-36983</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How secure is Rep. Clibborn really in her district? While someone running as a democrat isn&#039;t likely to get support from the state party that doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t mount a successful challenge.

It just takes the right canidate and people willing to support them.</description>
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How secure is Rep. Clibborn really in her district? While someone running as a democrat isn&#8217;t likely to get support from the state party that doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t mount a successful challenge.</p>
<p>It just takes the right canidate and people willing to support them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/03/30/further-delays-for-east-link-in-house-transportation-budget/#comment-36982</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Redmond was duped. That&#039;s what I thought. Even thought the difference between the highest and lowest alternatives for Segment D (forget about Bellevue&#039;s Billion Dollar Baby) would cover the cost of Segment E it&#039;s not going to happen. There folks you have it; Segment E will not be built. Can I have my vote back now?</description>
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So Redmond was duped. That&#8217;s what I thought. Even thought the difference between the highest and lowest alternatives for Segment D (forget about Bellevue&#8217;s Billion Dollar Baby) would cover the cost of Segment E it&#8217;s not going to happen. There folks you have it; Segment E will not be built. Can I have my vote back now?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: EvergreenRailfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvergreenRailfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same thing is going on in Hawaii. There is a State Legislator, a Democrat, trying to steal recently passed tax revenue from the City and County of Honolulu(which basically is the island of Oahu) levied for building an electric transit line to balance the state budget. The legislator is a Democrat, as the Republican Party in Hawaii does not have the votes to pass it if they proposed it(in the State Senate they are down to 2). 

Now I should not have expected an easy time with East LINK. I-90 was built from Factoria east to the State Line by the end of the 1960s but the portion west of Factoria was not finished until 1994, and the biggest stumbling blocks were Mt. Baker(remember this was when obliterate rather than accommodate was the way we built things) and Mercer Island. 

http://www.allaboardwashington.org/cms/images/uploads/What_a_Mess_12.pdf</description>
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Same thing is going on in Hawaii. There is a State Legislator, a Democrat, trying to steal recently passed tax revenue from the City and County of Honolulu(which basically is the island of Oahu) levied for building an electric transit line to balance the state budget. The legislator is a Democrat, as the Republican Party in Hawaii does not have the votes to pass it if they proposed it(in the State Senate they are down to 2). </p>
<p>Now I should not have expected an easy time with East LINK. I-90 was built from Factoria east to the State Line by the end of the 1960s but the portion west of Factoria was not finished until 1994, and the biggest stumbling blocks were Mt. Baker(remember this was when obliterate rather than accommodate was the way we built things) and Mercer Island. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.allaboardwashington.org/cms/images/uploads/What_a_Mess_12.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.allaboardwashington.org/cms/images/uploads/What_a_Mess_12.pdf</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What part of &quot;there is no money for going to downtown Redmond&quot; do you not understand? If East Link was started East to West there wouldn&#039;t be enough money to reach Seattle. This is true even if one of the non-tunnel options is chosen for going through Bellevue.

There is no way heavy rail equipment could be used on the East Link the track and structures aren&#039;t built to take it, the clearances are completely different, not to mention issues like curves.

The maintenance facility isn&#039;t part of the ST2 budget for East link. Yes one is planned ... but it isn&#039;t part of the initial construction just like segment E isn&#039;t.</description>
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What part of &#8220;there is no money for going to downtown Redmond&#8221; do you not understand? If East Link was started East to West there wouldn&#8217;t be enough money to reach Seattle. This is true even if one of the non-tunnel options is chosen for going through Bellevue.</p>
<p>There is no way heavy rail equipment could be used on the East Link the track and structures aren&#8217;t built to take it, the clearances are completely different, not to mention issues like curves.</p>
<p>The maintenance facility isn&#8217;t part of the ST2 budget for East link. Yes one is planned &#8230; but it isn&#8217;t part of the initial construction just like segment E isn&#8217;t.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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