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	<title>Comments on: Editorial: Tunnel Options in Downtown Bellevue</title>
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		<title>By: Bellevue City Council Endorsements - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-73589</link>
		<dc:creator>Bellevue City Council Endorsements - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] require funding, from the city of Bellevue, above and beyond what Sound Transit can provide. The original C3T tunnel option could require as much as $500 million, and while the new 110th tunnel option would be cheaper, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] require funding, from the city of Bellevue, above and beyond what Sound Transit can provide. The original C3T tunnel option could require as much as $500 million, and while the new 110th tunnel option would be cheaper, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sub-Regionalism Run Amok - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-47470</link>
		<dc:creator>Sub-Regionalism Run Amok - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] underlying the entire downtown Bellevue light rail tunnel conversation is the attitude present in many that since Seattle is getting a tunnel under Beacon Hill, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] underlying the entire downtown Bellevue light rail tunnel conversation is the attitude present in many that since Seattle is getting a tunnel under Beacon Hill, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s Do This Right - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-44949</link>
		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s Do This Right - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is fragile enough right now that major surface construction could set it back decades - I&#8217;ve written before about our preference for C3T, the bored tunnel option, over the cut-and-cover tunnel. Frankly, at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is fragile enough right now that major surface construction could set it back decades &#8211; I&#8217;ve written before about our preference for C3T, the bored tunnel option, over the cut-and-cover tunnel. Frankly, at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38825</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A surface station for an underground station isn&#039;t even close to an even trade.

Stations in Bel-Red waste time and money. More to the point they waste the time of all the ridership coming in from the east; the people paying for transit today. 130th is a terrible place for a P&amp;R. It&#039;s bringing more cars into an area that&#039;s already beyond capacity instead of increasing service to South Kirkland and the Houghton P&amp;R. Come up for a plan and fund it for 2010 and we can talk about 2030.

You can go back to about 2000 for when the density started to skyrocket (skyscraper) in Bellevue. Any number of those buildings could have had transit stations built in when they made the big hole in the ground.  How&#039;s that old saying... &quot;A lack of planning on your part does not constitute and emergency on my part.&quot; Bellevue can&#039;t even get a circulator bus going and all they have to do is pick a route and write Metro a check. The only &quot;answer&quot; Bellevue seems to have is more overpasses on I-405.

You&#039;re right that Belleuve has been on the path to gridlock for 30 years. Belleuve in 1980 had nothing. The only &quot;highrise&quot; was the Paccar Tower. That&#039;s when Kemper Freeman pushed through redevelopment of Bellevue Square in the model of a suburban mall. Since then the development has gotten the green light and left everyone else stuck in traffic. 

Redmond mean while has become the home of the State&#039;s second largest employer. The Microsoft campus and surrounding business straddle a freeway with efficient bus access and are bordered by four lane arterials on each side with local transit service and multifamily residential. The original downtown area has been  redeveloped with retail and mixed use residential instead of concrete canyons. Yet Redmond draws the short straw when it comes to Link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A surface station for an underground station isn&#8217;t even close to an even trade.</p>
<p>Stations in Bel-Red waste time and money. More to the point they waste the time of all the ridership coming in from the east; the people paying for transit today. 130th is a terrible place for a P&amp;R. It&#8217;s bringing more cars into an area that&#8217;s already beyond capacity instead of increasing service to South Kirkland and the Houghton P&amp;R. Come up for a plan and fund it for 2010 and we can talk about 2030.</p>
<p>You can go back to about 2000 for when the density started to skyrocket (skyscraper) in Bellevue. Any number of those buildings could have had transit stations built in when they made the big hole in the ground.  How&#8217;s that old saying&#8230; &#8220;A lack of planning on your part does not constitute and emergency on my part.&#8221; Bellevue can&#8217;t even get a circulator bus going and all they have to do is pick a route and write Metro a check. The only &#8220;answer&#8221; Bellevue seems to have is more overpasses on I-405.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that Belleuve has been on the path to gridlock for 30 years. Belleuve in 1980 had nothing. The only &#8220;highrise&#8221; was the Paccar Tower. That&#8217;s when Kemper Freeman pushed through redevelopment of Bellevue Square in the model of a suburban mall. Since then the development has gotten the green light and left everyone else stuck in traffic. </p>
<p>Redmond mean while has become the home of the State&#8217;s second largest employer. The Microsoft campus and surrounding business straddle a freeway with efficient bus access and are bordered by four lane arterials on each side with local transit service and multifamily residential. The original downtown area has been  redeveloped with retail and mixed use residential instead of concrete canyons. Yet Redmond draws the short straw when it comes to Link.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38802</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernie,
Actually once I fully read the City of Bellevue comments it would appear the city is asking for a station in the area of 106th and Main instead of the East Main station. This keeps the segment B/C station count at 5 which is the same as all the other alternatives (except for those with B7).

As for Bel-Red I don&#039;t think putting the stations there is a waste. The zoning changes mean that area is likely to see substantial new residential and commercial development. While there is little there now that won&#039;t be the case long-term. The ridership figures for the 130th station aren&#039;t too shabby, though I&#039;m sure part of that is due to the planned P&amp;R.

Do remember there are weird FTA rules as to what can and cannot be factored into ridership projections.

Sure it would have been nice if Bellevue had left ROW in downtown for high-capacity transit, but the time to do that would have been 30 or more years ago not 10. By then it was already too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie,<br />
Actually once I fully read the City of Bellevue comments it would appear the city is asking for a station in the area of 106th and Main instead of the East Main station. This keeps the segment B/C station count at 5 which is the same as all the other alternatives (except for those with B7).</p>
<p>As for Bel-Red I don&#8217;t think putting the stations there is a waste. The zoning changes mean that area is likely to see substantial new residential and commercial development. While there is little there now that won&#8217;t be the case long-term. The ridership figures for the 130th station aren&#8217;t too shabby, though I&#8217;m sure part of that is due to the planned P&amp;R.</p>
<p>Do remember there are weird FTA rules as to what can and cannot be factored into ridership projections.</p>
<p>Sure it would have been nice if Bellevue had left ROW in downtown for high-capacity transit, but the time to do that would have been 30 or more years ago not 10. By then it was already too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38798</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say the ridership numbers in the DEIS are flawed. What effect would that have, are they to high or to low? Can the numbers in the DEIS still be used as a relative count for assessing the various options? Or are they so fatally flawed as to be entirely worthless and meaningless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say the ridership numbers in the DEIS are flawed. What effect would that have, are they to high or to low? Can the numbers in the DEIS still be used as a relative count for assessing the various options? Or are they so fatally flawed as to be entirely worthless and meaningless?</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38778</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think you will see the development shift east (until it hits I-405) as a result of the choices made here. I agree C3T is the best option left, but that does not mean it is the best option possible.  In 10 years Bellevue will be kicking themselves for being shortsighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think you will see the development shift east (until it hits I-405) as a result of the choices made here. I agree C3T is the best option left, but that does not mean it is the best option possible.  In 10 years Bellevue will be kicking themselves for being shortsighted.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38748</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I say Bellevue is asking for the moon I&#039;m talking about the whole package. The extra underground station is a huge adder. Convenient yes but questionable ridership increase. A centrally located station on 106th would likely have almost the same ridership as the two proposed stations at Old Main and BTC. Then you get to Bel-Red and they want to zig zag back and forth and put in two stations with no ridership, have the highest cost and longest travel times. 

Nothing wrong with asking for the moon. Now is the time to throw it all up against the wall and see what sticks. Then you can &quot;give up&quot; something you never had in negotiations. If this was Bellevue Link it would be grand. It&#039;s not, it&#039;s supposed to be East Link and it&#039;s the only Link service the Eastside sub area is going to see for 20+ years.

At best this service opens in 2020 to Belleuve (later to Overlake). Bellevue shouldn&#039;t be sitting on it&#039;s hands for the next twelve years. The circulator/streetcar/subway should have been planned ten years age, &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; the forest of office towers were built. Instead the only ROW left through downtown Bellevue is the old BNSF tracks. Bellevue painted themselves into this corner and now they want to use ST2 money to try and not only fix downtown but add future capacity for another island of development in a new area of Bel-Red instead of auto row or the existing Bel-Red corridor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I say Bellevue is asking for the moon I&#8217;m talking about the whole package. The extra underground station is a huge adder. Convenient yes but questionable ridership increase. A centrally located station on 106th would likely have almost the same ridership as the two proposed stations at Old Main and BTC. Then you get to Bel-Red and they want to zig zag back and forth and put in two stations with no ridership, have the highest cost and longest travel times. </p>
<p>Nothing wrong with asking for the moon. Now is the time to throw it all up against the wall and see what sticks. Then you can &#8220;give up&#8221; something you never had in negotiations. If this was Bellevue Link it would be grand. It&#8217;s not, it&#8217;s supposed to be East Link and it&#8217;s the only Link service the Eastside sub area is going to see for 20+ years.</p>
<p>At best this service opens in 2020 to Belleuve (later to Overlake). Bellevue shouldn&#8217;t be sitting on it&#8217;s hands for the next twelve years. The circulator/streetcar/subway should have been planned ten years age, <i>before</i> the forest of office towers were built. Instead the only ROW left through downtown Bellevue is the old BNSF tracks. Bellevue painted themselves into this corner and now they want to use ST2 money to try and not only fix downtown but add future capacity for another island of development in a new area of Bel-Red instead of auto row or the existing Bel-Red corridor.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna McCall</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38666</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna McCall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As opposed to the 5 million they will spend in PR money to tell us why we will like what they are dong and cram it down our throats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As opposed to the 5 million they will spend in PR money to tell us why we will like what they are dong and cram it down our throats?</p>
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		<title>By: Anna McCall</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38661</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna McCall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ridership numbers in the DEIS are flawed and even Sound Transit now admits that.  They are now saying that ridership numbers need to be looked at in an overall count instead of the route by route count that the DEIS reflects.  The ridership numbers are being reviewed due to this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ridership numbers in the DEIS are flawed and even Sound Transit now admits that.  They are now saying that ridership numbers need to be looked at in an overall count instead of the route by route count that the DEIS reflects.  The ridership numbers are being reviewed due to this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38595</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is probably only worth it if there is a situation like what happened with the routing near the UW for U-Link/North Link where a major stakeholder suggests a new option.

If I had to guess I suspect the FEIS will have an additional alternative consisting of the Bellevue City Council&#039;s recommendation. Since part of the point of their changes is to mitigate some of the impacts or gain additional benefit. The COB alternative would need the same analysis at the other alternatives to prove this was actually the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is probably only worth it if there is a situation like what happened with the routing near the UW for U-Link/North Link where a major stakeholder suggests a new option.</p>
<p>If I had to guess I suspect the FEIS will have an additional alternative consisting of the Bellevue City Council&#8217;s recommendation. Since part of the point of their changes is to mitigate some of the impacts or gain additional benefit. The COB alternative would need the same analysis at the other alternatives to prove this was actually the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38592</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some inferences can be made by comparing the ridership figures for various alternatives. For example C1T vs C2T gives an idea of the effect of a Old Main station. The West Main in the City of Bellevue recommended alignment wouldn&#039;t have exactly the same ridership due to the difference in location but I&#039;m willing to bet it would be in the same ballpark. Similarly there are ridership numbers for C2T, C3T, C4A, and C7E with and without the East Main station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some inferences can be made by comparing the ridership figures for various alternatives. For example C1T vs C2T gives an idea of the effect of a Old Main station. The West Main in the City of Bellevue recommended alignment wouldn&#8217;t have exactly the same ridership due to the difference in location but I&#8217;m willing to bet it would be in the same ballpark. Similarly there are ridership numbers for C2T, C3T, C4A, and C7E with and without the East Main station.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38586</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna, &quot;wanting to&quot; have a supplemental EIS is one thing. Funding it is another. Perhaps Bellevue City Council can step up if they want to fund moving forward an additional, higher risk option?

And please, PLEASE look at the DEIS ridership estimates for East Main. It serves a lot more people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna, &#8220;wanting to&#8221; have a supplemental EIS is one thing. Funding it is another. Perhaps Bellevue City Council can step up if they want to fund moving forward an additional, higher risk option?</p>
<p>And please, PLEASE look at the DEIS ridership estimates for East Main. It serves a lot more people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38584</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d lose that bet. Look at B7, it&#039;s the least cost effective in B. Then look at the elevated options for C, and the freeway alignment for D. Ridership is bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d lose that bet. Look at B7, it&#8217;s the least cost effective in B. Then look at the elevated options for C, and the freeway alignment for D. Ridership is bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38582</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if they can fund it. Advancing one more tunnel option costs $3m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if they can fund it. Advancing one more tunnel option costs $3m.</p>
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		<title>By: newsaholic</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38583</link>
		<dc:creator>newsaholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - the neighborhood north of downtown Bellevue is &quot;Ashwood&quot;, not &quot;Ashworth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; the neighborhood north of downtown Bellevue is &#8220;Ashwood&#8221;, not &#8220;Ashworth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38581</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna, great point, I hadn&#039;t even considered the condemnations on that alignment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna, great point, I hadn&#8217;t even considered the condemnations on that alignment.</p>
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38568</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ST board will be discussing the East Link alignment at today&#039;s board meeting. Anyone going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ST board will be discussing the East Link alignment at today&#8217;s board meeting. Anyone going?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/04/08/editorial-tunnel-options-in-downtown-bellevue/#comment-38567</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having East Link bypass Downtown Bellevue entirely would be criminally stupid. Right up there with ignoring Microsoft. Without downtown Bellevue at least 1/3 of the East Link ridership disappears. Without the ridership there is little chance of getting any Federal funding. As the City of Bellevue said in their DEIS comments we&#039;re building a 100 year solution. A 100 year solution means the downtown of the second largest city in King County should be served.

I must say I find your dismissal of downtown Bellevue rather perplexing considering how much you advocate for serving downtown Redmond with 3 stations.

As I said elsewhere the C3T alignment would likely require use of the medical office building site West of 405 and north of NE 12th, Ashworth station or not. The hospital would be more upset by not being served at all than to have a station on the back corner of their campus. If anything it will probably enhance pedestrian connections with the OMC office space in the complex West of 405 and South of NE 12th.

I think a 112th alignment would be a poor choice. If you are going to spend the money on a tunnel you might as well try to serve the downtown core not the edge. (hence C3T)

A C2T alignment with a station on 106th between 2nd and 4th is pretty close to what the City recommended. The station at 106th NE and Main is intended as a substitute for the East Main station.

FWIW I believe the segment B &amp; C travel time estimates in the DEIS assume a total of 4 stations between the two segments so adjusting the station locations a bit shouldn&#039;t have a huge effect on travel times.

I&#039;ll also agree Downtown Bellevue will need better transit connections no matter what. But not to the extent of using it as an excuse to be penny wise and pound foolish with the East Link alignment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having East Link bypass Downtown Bellevue entirely would be criminally stupid. Right up there with ignoring Microsoft. Without downtown Bellevue at least 1/3 of the East Link ridership disappears. Without the ridership there is little chance of getting any Federal funding. As the City of Bellevue said in their DEIS comments we&#8217;re building a 100 year solution. A 100 year solution means the downtown of the second largest city in King County should be served.</p>
<p>I must say I find your dismissal of downtown Bellevue rather perplexing considering how much you advocate for serving downtown Redmond with 3 stations.</p>
<p>As I said elsewhere the C3T alignment would likely require use of the medical office building site West of 405 and north of NE 12th, Ashworth station or not. The hospital would be more upset by not being served at all than to have a station on the back corner of their campus. If anything it will probably enhance pedestrian connections with the OMC office space in the complex West of 405 and South of NE 12th.</p>
<p>I think a 112th alignment would be a poor choice. If you are going to spend the money on a tunnel you might as well try to serve the downtown core not the edge. (hence C3T)</p>
<p>A C2T alignment with a station on 106th between 2nd and 4th is pretty close to what the City recommended. The station at 106th NE and Main is intended as a substitute for the East Main station.</p>
<p>FWIW I believe the segment B &amp; C travel time estimates in the DEIS assume a total of 4 stations between the two segments so adjusting the station locations a bit shouldn&#8217;t have a huge effect on travel times.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also agree Downtown Bellevue will need better transit connections no matter what. But not to the extent of using it as an excuse to be penny wise and pound foolish with the East Link alignment.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree the tunnel portal should be on the Red Lion site. I believe that is reflected in Sound Transit&#039;s plans for connecting both B3 and B7 to either of the possible tunnel alignments.

I didn&#039;t realize the West Main station was intended as an alternative to the East Main station in the City of Bellevue recommendation until I read the City&#039;s letter to Sound Transit.

Unfortunately that is only really a possibility with the C2T alignment (106th NE tunnel). With the C3T alignment (108th tunnel) the choices are East Main or no South downtown station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the tunnel portal should be on the Red Lion site. I believe that is reflected in Sound Transit&#8217;s plans for connecting both B3 and B7 to either of the possible tunnel alignments.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize the West Main station was intended as an alternative to the East Main station in the City of Bellevue recommendation until I read the City&#8217;s letter to Sound Transit.</p>
<p>Unfortunately that is only really a possibility with the C2T alignment (106th NE tunnel). With the C3T alignment (108th tunnel) the choices are East Main or no South downtown station.</p>
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