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		<title>By: 50 Days - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-47496</link>
		<dc:creator>50 Days - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are a couple more 50s. Forward Thrust got 50.8% of the vote in 1968, but 60% was needed to pass. 1950 was the year of the last Kirkland-Madison Park Car Ferry ran. The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44470</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read the article as an endorsement for the tunnel. It says it&#039;s the preferred alternative by Bellevue but also the question of who&#039;s going to pay and is it worth it.

Opposing something but supporting the high cost alternative isn&#039;t necessarily in conflict. I&#039;m opposed to spending $6B on the current 520 plans (way too expensive for what we get) but I&#039;d fully support an $8B plan that replaced the concrete rafts with a double deck bridge that had rail  six lanes. I&#039;m opposed to the Pacific Street interchange unless it&#039;s the expensive tunnel option  it is design primarily to incorporate high capacity transit.</description>
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I didn&#8217;t read the article as an endorsement for the tunnel. It says it&#8217;s the preferred alternative by Bellevue but also the question of who&#8217;s going to pay and is it worth it.</p>
<p>Opposing something but supporting the high cost alternative isn&#8217;t necessarily in conflict. I&#8217;m opposed to spending $6B on the current 520 plans (way too expensive for what we get) but I&#8217;d fully support an $8B plan that replaced the concrete rafts with a double deck bridge that had rail  six lanes. I&#8217;m opposed to the Pacific Street interchange unless it&#8217;s the expensive tunnel option  it is design primarily to incorporate high capacity transit.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Smith</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44469</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s so funny. I agree with Ben, they haven&#039;t changed their minds about LRT, they just want to appeal to their eastside interests and advertisers.</description>
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I know it&#8217;s so funny. I agree with Ben, they haven&#8217;t changed their minds about LRT, they just want to appeal to their eastside interests and advertisers.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: octopus</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44459</link>
		<dc:creator>octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should have a thread on transit safety?  Tips on waiting at the stops at night, etc...</description>
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Maybe we should have a thread on transit safety?  Tips on waiting at the stops at night, etc&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44441</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s simpler than that. They&#039;re just a paper with eastside interests.</description>
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I think it&#8217;s simpler than that. They&#8217;re just a paper with eastside interests.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44439</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They know its going to happen, they just don&#039;t want to have to look at it once it&#039;s built!</description>
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They know its going to happen, they just don&#8217;t want to have to look at it once it&#8217;s built!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44432</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 3 bike racks are coming back.</description>
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The 3 bike racks are coming back.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44430</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very strange, honestly. Late last year it was &#039;don&#039;t build east link, it&#039;s too expensive&#039; and now it&#039;s &#039;pick the most expensive option!&#039;</description>
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It&#8217;s very strange, honestly. Late last year it was &#8216;don&#8217;t build east link, it&#8217;s too expensive&#8217; and now it&#8217;s &#8216;pick the most expensive option!&#8217;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44429</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice to think that three wasn&#039;t enough but sadly the bike racks seem to be way underused. OTOH it&#039;s hard to commute by bike if you can&#039;t be realatively assured that you&#039;ll be able to load.

My concern is that if the inside bike racks are convertable to people space, even standing room only, then bikes will have no place to go during peak commute which is when it&#039;s most needed. Reserving room for bikes that doesn&#039;t get used doesn&#039;t make sense either. Nobody wants to ride on the bike rack (well, maybe some people would) and they fold up when not in use. Given the relatively straight express routes and articulateds are already a super tanker it seems silly to put the bikes inside. On a well used route the bike is loaded before the rest of the passengers get on board and a bike rider should make sure they exit quickly and remove their bike. 

Is the problem that the front door will be entrance only on some routes? I can see where that would be a problem but a &quot;bike bell&quot; like the request for stop could solve that problem.</description>
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It would be nice to think that three wasn&#8217;t enough but sadly the bike racks seem to be way underused. OTOH it&#8217;s hard to commute by bike if you can&#8217;t be realatively assured that you&#8217;ll be able to load.</p>
<p>My concern is that if the inside bike racks are convertable to people space, even standing room only, then bikes will have no place to go during peak commute which is when it&#8217;s most needed. Reserving room for bikes that doesn&#8217;t get used doesn&#8217;t make sense either. Nobody wants to ride on the bike rack (well, maybe some people would) and they fold up when not in use. Given the relatively straight express routes and articulateds are already a super tanker it seems silly to put the bikes inside. On a well used route the bike is loaded before the rest of the passengers get on board and a bike rider should make sure they exit quickly and remove their bike. </p>
<p>Is the problem that the front door will be entrance only on some routes? I can see where that would be a problem but a &#8220;bike bell&#8221; like the request for stop could solve that problem.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44428</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but this editorial is even more enthusiastic:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2009198586_edita09link.html

In fact, the above, reminds me of those former days when the Times had more liberals and transit enthusiasts on its staff.  Most of the time, we don&#039;t get favorable reports/reviews/editorials like this, but we&#039;ll take them when they come and be thankful.

Tim</description>
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Yes, but this editorial is even more enthusiastic:<br />
<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2009198586_edita09link.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2009198586_edita09link.html</a></p>
<p>In fact, the above, reminds me of those former days when the Times had more liberals and transit enthusiasts on its staff.  Most of the time, we don&#8217;t get favorable reports/reviews/editorials like this, but we&#8217;ll take them when they come and be thankful.</p>
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		<title>By: Oran</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44427</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RapidRide coach had a bracket for mounting a bike rack in front.</description>
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The RapidRide coach had a bracket for mounting a bike rack in front.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44425</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was surprised to see that in the Times yesterday.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44420</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Article in today&#039;s online P.I. about how incidents on Metro buses are up.  One interesting fact from the article, 10 routes account for half of all incidents, with the route 174 leading the bunch.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Bundridge</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44415</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bundridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind! Found a pic!

http://www.commtrans.org/Projects/Images/Swift_bus.jpg

&quot;Bicycle boarding at the third door onto onboard bike racks fitting up to three bikes.&quot;

No front racks.</description>
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Nevermind! Found a pic!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commtrans.org/Projects/Images/Swift_bus.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.commtrans.org/Projects/Images/Swift_bus.jpg</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Bicycle boarding at the third door onto onboard bike racks fitting up to three bikes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bundridge</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44413</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bundridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I thought it was a rendering but after looking closer at the photo for Swift, one of their new BRT buses is hiding behind another bus. The front end is just sticking out. Looks good!

I&#039;ll have to see if I can get a tour of the new coach and post about it.</description>
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At first I thought it was a rendering but after looking closer at the photo for Swift, one of their new BRT buses is hiding behind another bus. The front end is just sticking out. Looks good!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Smith</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44387</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 06:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like bike racks and bike lockers at stations, but I understand that a lot of people want to ride on both ends of the trip. Caltrain had specific bike cars that had a lot of room for bikes. Bringing bikes on board make sense, but no one crowded buses.

We&#039;re going to have to look at how crowded rapid ride buses, but the show-coach and the APTA bus rodeo didn&#039;t have a bike rack on the front.</description>
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I like bike racks and bike lockers at stations, but I understand that a lot of people want to ride on both ends of the trip. Caltrain had specific bike cars that had a lot of room for bikes. Bringing bikes on board make sense, but no one crowded buses.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to have to look at how crowded rapid ride buses, but the show-coach and the APTA bus rodeo didn&#8217;t have a bike rack on the front.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Smith</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44386</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 06:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, thanks I fixed it.</description>
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		<title>By: ABeyer</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44385</link>
		<dc:creator>ABeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 06:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the CT BRT busses have onboard bike space...anyone know if Metro plans to do the same on RapidRide routes? Makes sense for both for capacity and faster boarding rather than waiting for people to figure out and manipulate the front mounted racks.</description>
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So the CT BRT busses have onboard bike space&#8230;anyone know if Metro plans to do the same on RapidRide routes? Makes sense for both for capacity and faster boarding rather than waiting for people to figure out and manipulate the front mounted racks.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Oran</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/10/news-round-up-19/#comment-44383</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m not sure if the video captured anyone using ORCA but I did see someone use it.</description>
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Actually, I&#8217;m not sure if the video captured anyone using ORCA but I did see someone use it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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