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		<title>By: tax marketing and operations coaching</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-83755</link>
		<dc:creator>tax marketing and operations coaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeAH,This massive trunked system operates in the 800 MHz band. Older flavors of cell phones also operate in the 800 range, albeit they use different blocks.</description>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Getting New, Free Bus Shetlers - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-48290</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Getting New, Free Bus Shetlers - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is San Francisco getting the money in the midst of the worst economy in generations? It&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve been talking about for a long time: Clear Channel Outdoor is paying to create and maintain the shelters in exchange for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mr Bradford (Brian)</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-47152</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Bradford (Brian)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some odd reason, the HVAC system does not operate when the bus is in hush mode.

It gets mighty muggy in the 6800&#039;s by International District Station.</description>
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For some odd reason, the HVAC system does not operate when the bus is in hush mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Bradford (Brian)</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-47151</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Bradford (Brian)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite legal to eat and drink on the bus.  Although if you make a big mess, you can be fined for creating &quot;unsanitary conditions&quot;.

It is simply a policy to state that food is not permitted.  There is no fine for eating on the bus here.

Of course, Washington DC is a different story.  Eat and be tazed!

Brian Bradford
Olympia, WA</description>
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It is quite legal to eat and drink on the bus.  Although if you make a big mess, you can be fined for creating &#8220;unsanitary conditions&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is simply a policy to state that food is not permitted.  There is no fine for eating on the bus here.</p>
<p>Of course, Washington DC is a different story.  Eat and be tazed!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Kelley</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-47097</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the same time, would it be possible to put service ONLY at the stations?</description>
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		<title>By: Mr Bradford (Brian)</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-47011</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Bradford (Brian)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 12:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I so wanna smack myself.

I meant to say Jay Street/Boro Hall.

Brian Bradford
Olympia, WA</description>
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Oh I so wanna smack myself.</p>
<p>I meant to say Jay Street/Boro Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Bradford (Brian)</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-47009</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Bradford (Brian)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 12:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I found interesting about MetroCards is that if it was encoded for unlimited rides, you could not re-encode it for pay-per-ride.

So whenever you bought an unlimited-ride MetroCard, the card became garbage after its valid period expired.

And I can say that with the frequency in which I used my MetroCard, that is probably a good thing.

My typical commute:
Walk from Franklin/Pacific to Franklin/Fulton Brooklyn
C Train at Franklin/Fulton Brooklyn to Hoyt/Schermerhorn Brooklyn
F Train at Hoyt/Schermerhorn to 179th Street, Jamaica in Queens
N22/24 at 181st/Hillside to Roosevelt Field Mall
N16/35/45/51 at Roosevelt Field Mall to Nassau Community College
Shoe forklempture on campus
N16/35 at Nassau CC to Hempstead Terminal (TC)
N31/32 at Hempstead Terminal to Mott Ave Far Rockaway in Queens
A Train at Far Rockaway to Franklin Street
B48/49 at Franklin/Fulton to Franklin/Pacific

You may wonder why I go in a big circle.  Lets just say I don&#039;t like doing the function at the junction (in my case, changing between local and express), also the N31/32 ran kinda flaky in the mornings.

Sometimes I treated myself to the LIRR at Nostrand.  It shaved 2 hours off my commute.</description>
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What I found interesting about MetroCards is that if it was encoded for unlimited rides, you could not re-encode it for pay-per-ride.</p>
<p>So whenever you bought an unlimited-ride MetroCard, the card became garbage after its valid period expired.</p>
<p>And I can say that with the frequency in which I used my MetroCard, that is probably a good thing.</p>
<p>My typical commute:<br />
Walk from Franklin/Pacific to Franklin/Fulton Brooklyn<br />
C Train at Franklin/Fulton Brooklyn to Hoyt/Schermerhorn Brooklyn<br />
F Train at Hoyt/Schermerhorn to 179th Street, Jamaica in Queens<br />
N22/24 at 181st/Hillside to Roosevelt Field Mall<br />
N16/35/45/51 at Roosevelt Field Mall to Nassau Community College<br />
Shoe forklempture on campus<br />
N16/35 at Nassau CC to Hempstead Terminal (TC)<br />
N31/32 at Hempstead Terminal to Mott Ave Far Rockaway in Queens<br />
A Train at Far Rockaway to Franklin Street<br />
B48/49 at Franklin/Fulton to Franklin/Pacific</p>
<p>You may wonder why I go in a big circle.  Lets just say I don&#8217;t like doing the function at the junction (in my case, changing between local and express), also the N31/32 ran kinda flaky in the mornings.</p>
<p>Sometimes I treated myself to the LIRR at Nostrand.  It shaved 2 hours off my commute.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about that earlier:

&lt;blockquote&gt;King County has one very large radio system in which there are 14,000 users share. In the early 90s and before, various agencies each had their own frequencies. After a while there were no more frequencies to give out, so it was determined that something must be done. The solution was to implement a trunked radio system. This operates on the theory that not all users will be talking at the same time. All of these agencies now share a pool of frequencies, and they are assigned on the fly as needed. Since no particular group is assigned any frequency, users are assigned what’s called a talkgroup. This is nothing more than a unique number that the radios look for. An example is Seattle Fire’s dispatch “channel” which is talkgroup 1744. When a user presses down the push to talk button (known as keying the mic) their radio sends a signal to the controller, which has a list of which frequencies are in use. It finds an unused one, and sends the channel number to the user’s radio. It also tells all the radios listening to that talkgroup to switch to that frequency. Now I’ll try to bring this back to transit.
Inside the DSTT there are two intellirepeaters. They carry (radio) traffic for the security guards, transit PD, and anyone else that normally uses this trunked radio system. If Seattle PD or Seattle were to respond to an incident inside the tunnel, their radios would work just like normal, even though the tunnel cuts off all signals from the ‘outside world’–because their radio system is being repeated inside the tunnel. This is good. The signal is heard throughout the tunnel because there are special cables installed, sometimes known as “leaky coax”. These cables are have intentionally poor shielding so that the radio signals will radiate off of them. This isn’t the most efficient way of providing radio communications, but it works great in tunnels.

This massive trunked system operates in the 800 MHz band. Older flavors of cell phones also operate in the 800 range, albeit they use different blocks. Other flavors for cell phones can operate in 900 MHz or 1900 MHz or others–I don’t really know, I don’t care about monitoring cell phones.

So–the answer comes down to one word: interference. Cell phones can wreak havoc to public safety radios. If you don’t believe me, do a search on Nextell inserting an “h” between the t and e.
The radio system in the tunnel is there to protect life and property. Do we really want to risk our lives just so we can listen to five iterations of “like, oh my god!”. No. Public safety comes first. If someone suddenly has a heart attack on the platform, I’d rather they be able to call dispatch and get a Medic unit started than to be able to send text messages while I’m waiting in the tunnel.

Stupid analogies aside–adding cell reception might cause interference to the mission critical radio systems, and it might not. There’s no way to tell without spending a few thousand to a few million, and frankly, it’s a very low priority for the city and county radio shops and cell providers.

Oh and did I mention LINK has 8 or so channels of their own? You can even listen to them outside of the tunnel, provided you’ve got some sort of receiver (like a scanner) that’ll do Motorola trunking.

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What I also wanted to mention is that the leaky coax is specially tuned to the frequencies that are going to be used, in this case the non-SMR portions of the 800 MHz band. You couldn’t shove cell signals on there without a huge RF mess, which would make the Seattle radio techs very, very upset.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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I wrote about that earlier:</p>
<blockquote><p>King County has one very large radio system in which there are 14,000 users share. In the early 90s and before, various agencies each had their own frequencies. After a while there were no more frequencies to give out, so it was determined that something must be done. The solution was to implement a trunked radio system. This operates on the theory that not all users will be talking at the same time. All of these agencies now share a pool of frequencies, and they are assigned on the fly as needed. Since no particular group is assigned any frequency, users are assigned what’s called a talkgroup. This is nothing more than a unique number that the radios look for. An example is Seattle Fire’s dispatch “channel” which is talkgroup 1744. When a user presses down the push to talk button (known as keying the mic) their radio sends a signal to the controller, which has a list of which frequencies are in use. It finds an unused one, and sends the channel number to the user’s radio. It also tells all the radios listening to that talkgroup to switch to that frequency. Now I’ll try to bring this back to transit.<br />
Inside the DSTT there are two intellirepeaters. They carry (radio) traffic for the security guards, transit PD, and anyone else that normally uses this trunked radio system. If Seattle PD or Seattle were to respond to an incident inside the tunnel, their radios would work just like normal, even though the tunnel cuts off all signals from the ‘outside world’–because their radio system is being repeated inside the tunnel. This is good. The signal is heard throughout the tunnel because there are special cables installed, sometimes known as “leaky coax”. These cables are have intentionally poor shielding so that the radio signals will radiate off of them. This isn’t the most efficient way of providing radio communications, but it works great in tunnels.</p>
<p>This massive trunked system operates in the 800 MHz band. Older flavors of cell phones also operate in the 800 range, albeit they use different blocks. Other flavors for cell phones can operate in 900 MHz or 1900 MHz or others–I don’t really know, I don’t care about monitoring cell phones.</p>
<p>So–the answer comes down to one word: interference. Cell phones can wreak havoc to public safety radios. If you don’t believe me, do a search on Nextell inserting an “h” between the t and e.<br />
The radio system in the tunnel is there to protect life and property. Do we really want to risk our lives just so we can listen to five iterations of “like, oh my god!”. No. Public safety comes first. If someone suddenly has a heart attack on the platform, I’d rather they be able to call dispatch and get a Medic unit started than to be able to send text messages while I’m waiting in the tunnel.</p>
<p>Stupid analogies aside–adding cell reception might cause interference to the mission critical radio systems, and it might not. There’s no way to tell without spending a few thousand to a few million, and frankly, it’s a very low priority for the city and county radio shops and cell providers.</p>
<p>Oh and did I mention LINK has 8 or so channels of their own? You can even listen to them outside of the tunnel, provided you’ve got some sort of receiver (like a scanner) that’ll do Motorola trunking.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>What I also wanted to mention is that the leaky coax is specially tuned to the frequencies that are going to be used, in this case the non-SMR portions of the 800 MHz band. You couldn’t shove cell signals on there without a huge RF mess, which would make the Seattle radio techs very, very upset.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46983</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WMATA in DC has a contract with Verizon Wireless to enable Verizon customers to get cell service in the tunnels. Recently, WMATA signed a new deal with the big 4 carriers to build a new network usable by all subscribers (worth at least $79 million to WMATA over 25 years).

Obviously our tunnel is rather small, but it shouldn&#039;t be too difficult to get a similar deal for cell service in the tunnel, especially with the extra passengers who will be riding Link. $3M/year is a lot, but we should be able to get $100-200k, I would guess, based on the ridership estimates.</description>
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WMATA in DC has a contract with Verizon Wireless to enable Verizon customers to get cell service in the tunnels. Recently, WMATA signed a new deal with the big 4 carriers to build a new network usable by all subscribers (worth at least $79 million to WMATA over 25 years).</p>
<p>Obviously our tunnel is rather small, but it shouldn&#8217;t be too difficult to get a similar deal for cell service in the tunnel, especially with the extra passengers who will be riding Link. $3M/year is a lot, but we should be able to get $100-200k, I would guess, based on the ridership estimates.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46978</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t the folks that fail the first go around get to try again. I mean a lot of folks don&#039;t pass their drivers test the first time. Sometimes it&#039;s just nerves from taking a &quot;test&quot;.

While it sounds hard to get hired on as a full timer that&#039;s not all bad. At least you know that the folks that stick with it are likely going to stay and really want to do the job.

OT may not be that big an expense. The actual salary is typically only about half the cost for an employee. Hiring more people, even part time w/o benefits can be expensive (training, screw-ups, etc.).</description>
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Don&#8217;t the folks that fail the first go around get to try again. I mean a lot of folks don&#8217;t pass their drivers test the first time. Sometimes it&#8217;s just nerves from taking a &#8220;test&#8221;.</p>
<p>While it sounds hard to get hired on as a full timer that&#8217;s not all bad. At least you know that the folks that stick with it are likely going to stay and really want to do the job.</p>
<p>OT may not be that big an expense. The actual salary is typically only about half the cost for an employee. Hiring more people, even part time w/o benefits can be expensive (training, screw-ups, etc.).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Kelley</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46960</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t there something like that already in place? I&#039;ve seen the Kent/James St P-R used for the carnival rides for Kent Cornucopia Days, and the parking is approved parking for the ShoWare Center across the street/UP tracks.</description>
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Isn&#8217;t there something like that already in place? I&#8217;ve seen the Kent/James St P-R used for the carnival rides for Kent Cornucopia Days, and the parking is approved parking for the ShoWare Center across the street/UP tracks.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Kelley</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46955</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry &#039;bout that last night. We were in a rush to get to the M&#039;s game. And the toddler hadn&#039;t had dinner yet...

;-)</description>
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Sorry &#8217;bout that last night. We were in a rush to get to the M&#8217;s game. And the toddler hadn&#8217;t had dinner yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VeloBusDriver</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46946</link>
		<dc:creator>VeloBusDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see more commercial activity in or very near to Park &amp; Rides.  You&#039;ve already driven your car, taken a bus, or ridden your bike to the Park &amp; Ride, why can&#039;t you do other commercial activities there?  Maybe dry-cleaners, convenience stores, car detailing, oil changes, etc...  This is probably along the lines of Transit Oriented Development.  

Another idea:  Many Park &amp; Rides are virtually empty on weekends.  A system could be setup to rent space for all kinds of activities.  Farmers&#039; markets, arts &amp; crafts fairs, swap meets, hiking shuttles (Metro or Private run), bike rentals for park &amp; rides near trails (Issaquah or Issaquah highlands?).  A system of approving activities that do not conflict with local businesses would be important.</description>
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I&#8217;d like to see more commercial activity in or very near to Park &amp; Rides.  You&#8217;ve already driven your car, taken a bus, or ridden your bike to the Park &amp; Ride, why can&#8217;t you do other commercial activities there?  Maybe dry-cleaners, convenience stores, car detailing, oil changes, etc&#8230;  This is probably along the lines of Transit Oriented Development.  </p>
<p>Another idea:  Many Park &amp; Rides are virtually empty on weekends.  A system could be setup to rent space for all kinds of activities.  Farmers&#8217; markets, arts &amp; crafts fairs, swap meets, hiking shuttles (Metro or Private run), bike rentals for park &amp; rides near trails (Issaquah or Issaquah highlands?).  A system of approving activities that do not conflict with local businesses would be important.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: VeloBusDriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeloBusDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the article:  The attacker charged with assault but because of diminished mental capacity was committed to Western State Hospital where he remains to this day. Sadly, this kind of thing will happen from time to time.  It could have just as easily happened in a Library, park, or other public space.  It just happened on a bus this time.

Presumably the driver summoned the police as soon as he noticed what was going on.  But it takes time for them to arrive.  Kudos to the passengers for stepping in and preventing further harm to the woman.</description>
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Read the article:  The attacker charged with assault but because of diminished mental capacity was committed to Western State Hospital where he remains to this day. Sadly, this kind of thing will happen from time to time.  It could have just as easily happened in a Library, park, or other public space.  It just happened on a bus this time.</p>
<p>Presumably the driver summoned the police as soon as he noticed what was going on.  But it takes time for them to arrive.  Kudos to the passengers for stepping in and preventing further harm to the woman.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: VeloBusDriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeloBusDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of my class, only 3 out of 8 *passed* the CDL.  None left voluntarily.  It&#039;s not that the training is of poor quality - far from it.  Metro&#039;s training program is probably one of the best around.  It has more to do with pressure from the Federal government to make the CDL exam more difficult.  For example, you automatically fail if you touch a curb.  So even if you otherwise drove perfectly, if you just *touch* the curb, you failed.

Semi drivers have to back up their vehicles regularly as part of their job while we rarely back up a coach, except in the yard.  We need to be more sensitive to issues involving passengers and need the passenger endorsement.  They are different jobs with different skill-sets.  There are common elements and having a CDL B can&#039;t hurt if you&#039;re going for a CDL A.  However, if somebody wants to be a truck driver, they&#039;re not going to go work for Metro.

For every person who you say comes to work for Metro while &quot;just job hunting for something else&quot; there are several who do that but then end up staying for many years.  I and plenty of other drivers could make more money elsewhere, but driving for Metro offers variety, a choice of all kinds of different work schedules, and opportunities for advancement (Supervision, planning, light rail, etc...).  

My point is that there are some opportunities to save money on overtime now while giving newer drivers an opportunity to make enough money to get them by until they can go full-time.  There are issues in negotiating that point that I don&#039;t understand, but I can at least point out the opportunity.</description>
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In the case of my class, only 3 out of 8 *passed* the CDL.  None left voluntarily.  It&#8217;s not that the training is of poor quality &#8211; far from it.  Metro&#8217;s training program is probably one of the best around.  It has more to do with pressure from the Federal government to make the CDL exam more difficult.  For example, you automatically fail if you touch a curb.  So even if you otherwise drove perfectly, if you just *touch* the curb, you failed.</p>
<p>Semi drivers have to back up their vehicles regularly as part of their job while we rarely back up a coach, except in the yard.  We need to be more sensitive to issues involving passengers and need the passenger endorsement.  They are different jobs with different skill-sets.  There are common elements and having a CDL B can&#8217;t hurt if you&#8217;re going for a CDL A.  However, if somebody wants to be a truck driver, they&#8217;re not going to go work for Metro.</p>
<p>For every person who you say comes to work for Metro while &#8220;just job hunting for something else&#8221; there are several who do that but then end up staying for many years.  I and plenty of other drivers could make more money elsewhere, but driving for Metro offers variety, a choice of all kinds of different work schedules, and opportunities for advancement (Supervision, planning, light rail, etc&#8230;).  </p>
<p>My point is that there are some opportunities to save money on overtime now while giving newer drivers an opportunity to make enough money to get them by until they can go full-time.  There are issues in negotiating that point that I don&#8217;t understand, but I can at least point out the opportunity.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: VeloBusDriver</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46933</link>
		<dc:creator>VeloBusDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Oran.  When I drive a coach with operable windows, I figure out whether to go the fresh air route or the A/C route based on outside temperature and sun exposure.  If it&#039;s not too hot, I NEVER get a complaint when the going the fresh air route (Open roof hatches, and an appropriate number of open windows that customers can adjust themselves).  However, when it&#039;s too hot I have to go with the A/C.  I&#039;ll sometimes get complaints about hot or cold spots or that the fans are too noisy.  There&#039;s nothing I can do except suggest a different seat in the bus.

People can screw up the A/C when they open windows, but I usually can see that they are open and explain that the A/C works best with the windows closed.  It can take a while to cool down after a layover in the sun, but people seem patient if you explain it.  

Oh, and there are plenty of times where the A/C doesn&#039;t work. But Metro seems to be buying buses with non-operable windows so I guess we&#039;ll have to get used to it...</description>
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I agree with Oran.  When I drive a coach with operable windows, I figure out whether to go the fresh air route or the A/C route based on outside temperature and sun exposure.  If it&#8217;s not too hot, I NEVER get a complaint when the going the fresh air route (Open roof hatches, and an appropriate number of open windows that customers can adjust themselves).  However, when it&#8217;s too hot I have to go with the A/C.  I&#8217;ll sometimes get complaints about hot or cold spots or that the fans are too noisy.  There&#8217;s nothing I can do except suggest a different seat in the bus.</p>
<p>People can screw up the A/C when they open windows, but I usually can see that they are open and explain that the A/C works best with the windows closed.  It can take a while to cool down after a layover in the sun, but people seem patient if you explain it.  </p>
<p>Oh, and there are plenty of times where the A/C doesn&#8217;t work. But Metro seems to be buying buses with non-operable windows so I guess we&#8217;ll have to get used to it&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: L. Smith</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46813</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 04:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh right, I forgot they were a different thing. Good luck on the Flip!</description>
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		<title>By: Oran</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46811</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seattle Metro LED Front is mostly done. Seattle Metro Flip Front is partially complete.

For the route t-shirts, I have to do a separate font for the back displays.</description>
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Seattle Metro LED Front is mostly done. Seattle Metro Flip Front is partially complete.</p>
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		<title>By: Oran</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46809</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot open the windows on the new DE60LFs. That helps with the A/C but sucks when fresh air is desired most of the year. Then the fans have to be turned on and that ruins the hybrid experience. The only other option is to open the ceiling hatches but I can&#039;t reach them.</description>
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You cannot open the windows on the new DE60LFs. That helps with the A/C but sucks when fresh air is desired most of the year. Then the fans have to be turned on and that ruins the hybrid experience. The only other option is to open the ceiling hatches but I can&#8217;t reach them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/05/21/creative-ideas-for-metro-funding/#comment-46804</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 02:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the overfull P&amp;R lots the charge should be much higher than that. Ideally just enough for the lot to hit 98% full before the end of Morning peak. But if prices can&#039;t vary per lot I&#039;d set the all-day parking fee at $4 at least. Parking in downtown Seattle is at least $20/day.</description>
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For the overfull P&amp;R lots the charge should be much higher than that. Ideally just enough for the lot to hit 98% full before the end of Morning peak. But if prices can&#8217;t vary per lot I&#8217;d set the all-day parking fee at $4 at least. Parking in downtown Seattle is at least $20/day.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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