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	<title>Comments on: Metro Presents Service Cut Planning Strategies</title>
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		<title>By: Zack W</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-52452</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with shifting service to another agency is that while it does make sense for metro, the overall capasity probally dosent exist in the first place. Some time ago it was proposed to have the 594 stop at FWTC to atleast in part replace the 194 when its funds get shifted to the &quot;A&quot;. Routewise this makes perfect sense, than when you start thinking about the logistics of it, it would be unfeasable because many of the 594 trips are already running full leaving TDS, and adding more riders and time to a already full bus would make things even worse. Now if headways were improved to 20 minutes from 30 (And coaches other than MCIs were acquired which could handle the route and load), it probally would be fine for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with shifting service to another agency is that while it does make sense for metro, the overall capasity probally dosent exist in the first place. Some time ago it was proposed to have the 594 stop at FWTC to atleast in part replace the 194 when its funds get shifted to the &#8220;A&#8221;. Routewise this makes perfect sense, than when you start thinking about the logistics of it, it would be unfeasable because many of the 594 trips are already running full leaving TDS, and adding more riders and time to a already full bus would make things even worse. Now if headways were improved to 20 minutes from 30 (And coaches other than MCIs were acquired which could handle the route and load), it probally would be fine for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51877</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other reason to consider returning Metro to the City of Seattle. I was at the Bellevue Transportation Commission meeting tonight and there was a presentation on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bellevuewa.gov/pdf/transportation/062509_Concurrency_8d.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Multi-Modal Concurrency Pilot Project&lt;/a&gt;. It was mentioned that one of the big reasons that transit is not considered in transportation planning (road LOS vs projected demand) is that the City has very little control over level of service and route selection. Bellevue is sincerely interested in using transit ridership along with other modes (ped, bike) in doing transportation planning. A means to that end would be to free up the tax money collected for Metro and allow Bellevue to spend that money as it sees fit. Likely a lot would be on contract bus service, maybe with ST as the broker. Some may be on dedicated Bellevue operated buses. Some might go to increased Link service. Some areas may lose transit all together. Who knows, they might decide to run a water taxi from Meydenbauer Bay to the UW but it&#039;s Bellevue&#039;s decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other reason to consider returning Metro to the City of Seattle. I was at the Bellevue Transportation Commission meeting tonight and there was a presentation on the <a href="http://www.bellevuewa.gov/pdf/transportation/062509_Concurrency_8d.pdf" rel="nofollow">Multi-Modal Concurrency Pilot Project</a>. It was mentioned that one of the big reasons that transit is not considered in transportation planning (road LOS vs projected demand) is that the City has very little control over level of service and route selection. Bellevue is sincerely interested in using transit ridership along with other modes (ped, bike) in doing transportation planning. A means to that end would be to free up the tax money collected for Metro and allow Bellevue to spend that money as it sees fit. Likely a lot would be on contract bus service, maybe with ST as the broker. Some may be on dedicated Bellevue operated buses. Some might go to increased Link service. Some areas may lose transit all together. Who knows, they might decide to run a water taxi from Meydenbauer Bay to the UW but it&#8217;s Bellevue&#8217;s decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Silversides</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51518</link>
		<dc:creator>Silversides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments regarding the use of MLK vs. Rainier Avenue.  The picture is clear.  Kind of like a &quot;two for one&quot;...  I started life out in the Valley and rode either the 42(26) or the 7 downtown.  The city&#039;s come a long way.  My brother designed the station at Othello so a portion of that line will forever has our family attached to it.  When I visit &quot;home&quot;, I&#039;ll be sure to take a ride on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments regarding the use of MLK vs. Rainier Avenue.  The picture is clear.  Kind of like a &#8220;two for one&#8221;&#8230;  I started life out in the Valley and rode either the 42(26) or the 7 downtown.  The city&#8217;s come a long way.  My brother designed the station at Othello so a portion of that line will forever has our family attached to it.  When I visit &#8220;home&#8221;, I&#8217;ll be sure to take a ride on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51481</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people are riding the bus because gas costs too much they are likely to support better bus service. Especially if those buses are crowded.

Also I think Link finally opening should provide a bit more support for transit in general. I know lots of people who didn&#039;t support rail until they went to Portland and rode the MAX or the streetcar. Having a local example up and running is even better. This is also the pattern seen in most other areas that have built rail, once the initial line is up and running everyone is suddenly in favor of building more as quickly as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people are riding the bus because gas costs too much they are likely to support better bus service. Especially if those buses are crowded.</p>
<p>Also I think Link finally opening should provide a bit more support for transit in general. I know lots of people who didn&#8217;t support rail until they went to Portland and rode the MAX or the streetcar. Having a local example up and running is even better. This is also the pattern seen in most other areas that have built rail, once the initial line is up and running everyone is suddenly in favor of building more as quickly as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Elbar</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51404</link>
		<dc:creator>Elbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Orr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But $4/gallon &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; increase both ridership and support for transit last year.  And people will support a higher tax if it lowers their total expenses (by decreasing their car-related costs), or if it makes some trips possible that people formerly drove to but now can&#039;t afford to drive to.  It takes something dramatic to get people over the hump, but once they do it&#039;s downhill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But $4/gallon <i>did</i> increase both ridership and support for transit last year.  And people will support a higher tax if it lowers their total expenses (by decreasing their car-related costs), or if it makes some trips possible that people formerly drove to but now can&#8217;t afford to drive to.  It takes something dramatic to get people over the hump, but once they do it&#8217;s downhill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think $5 gas is going to put the vast majority of voters (who don&#039;t directly benefit from transit) in any mood to vote for increased taxes. One, they&#039;re going to feel the pinch in their own budget paying more for gas or buying a new car that gets better mileage. Two, high oil prices choke off the economy so people on whole have less money to spend. Three, the tax base is smaller making projects all the more expensive per person. Again, for most higher taxes for transit is discretionary income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think $5 gas is going to put the vast majority of voters (who don&#8217;t directly benefit from transit) in any mood to vote for increased taxes. One, they&#8217;re going to feel the pinch in their own budget paying more for gas or buying a new car that gets better mileage. Two, high oil prices choke off the economy so people on whole have less money to spend. Three, the tax base is smaller making projects all the more expensive per person. Again, for most higher taxes for transit is discretionary income.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the big benefit will be to business travelers and tourists. Sure the people lucky enough to live in walking distance get a huge beny on the few times (on average) that they fly but for the other 98% of the folks the payback is Seattle gaining a not insignificant boost in it&#039;s tourism, convention and business climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the big benefit will be to business travelers and tourists. Sure the people lucky enough to live in walking distance get a huge beny on the few times (on average) that they fly but for the other 98% of the folks the payback is Seattle gaining a not insignificant boost in it&#8217;s tourism, convention and business climate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Orr</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51369</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things on the 40/40/20 rule and cutting Transit Now.

Suspending Transit Now, although probably inevitable, is going to rub people the wrong way.  It&#039;ll be the second time the sales tax was raised to increase bus service, but instead the revenue was eaten by something else (rising fuel prices last year, the recession this year).  Which does not raise confidence for future tax increases.

As for the 40/40/20 rule shifting service from Seattle to the Eastside when the cuts are restored, we don&#039;t have to do it &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;.  It doesn&#039;t really matter until we have the money to restore the service, in two years or five.  That leaves plenty of opportunities to get the rule repealed or elect a more reasonable county council in the meantime.  

Although it may take longer because we seem to be in a Japanese-style recession.  The Administration has done nothing to retire the toxic assets that caused this mess, or to break up the banks that are &quot;too big to fail&quot;.  Instead it&#039;s just putting a happy face on things and making some meager attempts at stimulus.  So revenue and unemployment are likely to remain flat until the next zombie bank needs a rescue.  The only thing that will really help is if gas reaches $5/gallon and stays there; that will presumably prod people to invest seriously in transit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things on the 40/40/20 rule and cutting Transit Now.</p>
<p>Suspending Transit Now, although probably inevitable, is going to rub people the wrong way.  It&#8217;ll be the second time the sales tax was raised to increase bus service, but instead the revenue was eaten by something else (rising fuel prices last year, the recession this year).  Which does not raise confidence for future tax increases.</p>
<p>As for the 40/40/20 rule shifting service from Seattle to the Eastside when the cuts are restored, we don&#8217;t have to do it <i>now</i>.  It doesn&#8217;t really matter until we have the money to restore the service, in two years or five.  That leaves plenty of opportunities to get the rule repealed or elect a more reasonable county council in the meantime.  </p>
<p>Although it may take longer because we seem to be in a Japanese-style recession.  The Administration has done nothing to retire the toxic assets that caused this mess, or to break up the banks that are &#8220;too big to fail&#8221;.  Instead it&#8217;s just putting a happy face on things and making some meager attempts at stimulus.  So revenue and unemployment are likely to remain flat until the next zombie bank needs a rescue.  The only thing that will really help is if gas reaches $5/gallon and stays there; that will presumably prod people to invest seriously in transit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Orr</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51358</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Why did they put LTR down MLK anyway. 

Because Rainier Avenue is too built up.

&gt; I don’t understand the rationale. Someone please post that reasoning. Who would leave downtown Seattle for the airport via Rainier Valley?

Because Link is not meant to just be a fast way from downtown to the airport.  It&#039;s meant to facilitate trips between any two points on the line.  Rainier to Sea-Tac, Rainier to UW, Capitol Hill to Northgate or Bellevue or Des Moines.

In an ideal world there would be both a local Link through Rainier and an express Link on the freeway (with stops only dowtown, Sea-Tac, and Tacoma).  But we had to cajole voters for 55 years just to get any rail built, and a line needs to go through residential neighborhoods to get ridership.  Imagine walking from MLK over Beacon Hill to Albro Place to catch a freeway train -- nobody would do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Why did they put LTR down MLK anyway. </p>
<p>Because Rainier Avenue is too built up.</p>
<p>&gt; I don’t understand the rationale. Someone please post that reasoning. Who would leave downtown Seattle for the airport via Rainier Valley?</p>
<p>Because Link is not meant to just be a fast way from downtown to the airport.  It&#8217;s meant to facilitate trips between any two points on the line.  Rainier to Sea-Tac, Rainier to UW, Capitol Hill to Northgate or Bellevue or Des Moines.</p>
<p>In an ideal world there would be both a local Link through Rainier and an express Link on the freeway (with stops only dowtown, Sea-Tac, and Tacoma).  But we had to cajole voters for 55 years just to get any rail built, and a line needs to go through residential neighborhoods to get ridership.  Imagine walking from MLK over Beacon Hill to Albro Place to catch a freeway train &#8212; nobody would do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Orr</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51352</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... because it&#039;s way too long.  It&#039;s amazing it wasn&#039;t split in half years ago, as the 150 was, and the 7, 13, 15, 18, and 43.  Because a little delay anywhere on a long route gets magnified.  Whereas a split route isolates the delay in one section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; because it&#8217;s way too long.  It&#8217;s amazing it wasn&#8217;t split in half years ago, as the 150 was, and the 7, 13, 15, 18, and 43.  Because a little delay anywhere on a long route gets magnified.  Whereas a split route isolates the delay in one section.</p>
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		<title>By: litlnemo</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51323</link>
		<dc:creator>litlnemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Who would leave downtown Seattle for the airport via Rainier Valley?&quot;

This is one of the two myopias I&#039;ve noticed in a lot of comments about Link. The other is a tendency to assume that everyone riding Link will be doing it to commute to/from work. (I probably won&#039;t commute on it because I don&#039;t have a normal daily commute, but I plan to use it for shopping, going to the downtown library, going to baseball games, etc.)

The first is myopic because it assumes that people going to the airport are always going from downtown. (Yes, it has a lot of hotels, but visitors to Seattle are not at all the only people who go to and from the airport. Locals travel too. And they work at the airport!) To take the 194 to the airport from Seattle, you basically have to get to downtown or the busway -- there aren&#039;t any stops in neighborhoods where people actually live (other than downtown/Pioneer Square/ID). 174&#039;s not much better for that, and it&#039;s slow. So those of us who aren&#039;t already downtown have to either get downtown or to the busway with our luggage, or spend  the money for a cab or Shuttle Express. This either adds substantial time or expense to the trip. I live on Beacon Hill and a cab to the airport is pricey, and Shuttle Express is expensive itself, and requires you to leave extra early. 

With Link, a large portion of Southeast Seattle will now be able to go to the airport both quickly and cheaply compared to previous options. Now I&#039;ll be able to get to SeaTac from my house in half an hour -- including the walk to the station, two blocks away --  for, what, $2.75? (I forget what the fare is going to be... but it&#039;s cheap for an airport trip!) Thousands of people live in the area that Link will serve, and many of those people have need to get to SeaTac for flights -- and also for work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who would leave downtown Seattle for the airport via Rainier Valley?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is one of the two myopias I&#8217;ve noticed in a lot of comments about Link. The other is a tendency to assume that everyone riding Link will be doing it to commute to/from work. (I probably won&#8217;t commute on it because I don&#8217;t have a normal daily commute, but I plan to use it for shopping, going to the downtown library, going to baseball games, etc.)</p>
<p>The first is myopic because it assumes that people going to the airport are always going from downtown. (Yes, it has a lot of hotels, but visitors to Seattle are not at all the only people who go to and from the airport. Locals travel too. And they work at the airport!) To take the 194 to the airport from Seattle, you basically have to get to downtown or the busway &#8212; there aren&#8217;t any stops in neighborhoods where people actually live (other than downtown/Pioneer Square/ID). 174&#8217;s not much better for that, and it&#8217;s slow. So those of us who aren&#8217;t already downtown have to either get downtown or to the busway with our luggage, or spend  the money for a cab or Shuttle Express. This either adds substantial time or expense to the trip. I live on Beacon Hill and a cab to the airport is pricey, and Shuttle Express is expensive itself, and requires you to leave extra early. </p>
<p>With Link, a large portion of Southeast Seattle will now be able to go to the airport both quickly and cheaply compared to previous options. Now I&#8217;ll be able to get to SeaTac from my house in half an hour &#8212; including the walk to the station, two blocks away &#8212;  for, what, $2.75? (I forget what the fare is going to be&#8230; but it&#8217;s cheap for an airport trip!) Thousands of people live in the area that Link will serve, and many of those people have need to get to SeaTac for flights &#8212; and also for work.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once upon a time it was ALL Seattle Transit. Now that we have ST for regional service it&#039;s time for the county to get out of the bus business and turn it back over to Seattle. Take the .4% (or whatever it is) sales tax and let local areas decide if they want to do with it (contract bus service or just eliminate the tax). Note, Seattle could probably fully fund Seattle Transit with less than .4% or use the efficiency gains to really increase service.

In the report the threshold for less than minimum in the west subarea is 15% fare recovery peak, 13% day and 7% night. Eastside averages are 15% peak, 11% day and 8% night. When you look at riders per revenue hour the eastside averages 30.6 peak; the west subarea manages 35.5 &lt;b&gt;at night!&lt;/b&gt;The east side can&#039;t justify the level of bus service it already has. This cockamamie idea of increasing using 40/40/20 is completely backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a time it was ALL Seattle Transit. Now that we have ST for regional service it&#8217;s time for the county to get out of the bus business and turn it back over to Seattle. Take the .4% (or whatever it is) sales tax and let local areas decide if they want to do with it (contract bus service or just eliminate the tax). Note, Seattle could probably fully fund Seattle Transit with less than .4% or use the efficiency gains to really increase service.</p>
<p>In the report the threshold for less than minimum in the west subarea is 15% fare recovery peak, 13% day and 7% night. Eastside averages are 15% peak, 11% day and 8% night. When you look at riders per revenue hour the eastside averages 30.6 peak; the west subarea manages 35.5 <b>at night!</b>The east side can&#8217;t justify the level of bus service it already has. This cockamamie idea of increasing using 40/40/20 is completely backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the 73, you have a very good point there. The only real thing that you&#039;d be missing are a few stops between Northgate Way/120th, but those are close enough to the 347/348 routing, as well as the stuff east of 15th. I could see them keeping it but maybe just have it go to Northgate, thus creating a downtown-Northgate via U-District route. As far as I know there wouldn&#039;t be that many stops missed-I&#039;ve rode the 73 many times and many of the stops that it would miss are rarely used. However, I think the main thing is the local service that it provides along 15th, so it would be worth it to keep it on there. I would absolutely NOT get rid of the 77 though. 

I like the idea of the 28 being extended to go to 20th NE. It wouldn&#039;t be that much more of a time thing, and I have never really understood why there isn&#039;t service going across I-5 at 145th, as you have the freeway station and everything. There&#039;s already space for a stop on the overpass going east, as that is where the 373 used to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the 73, you have a very good point there. The only real thing that you&#8217;d be missing are a few stops between Northgate Way/120th, but those are close enough to the 347/348 routing, as well as the stuff east of 15th. I could see them keeping it but maybe just have it go to Northgate, thus creating a downtown-Northgate via U-District route. As far as I know there wouldn&#8217;t be that many stops missed-I&#8217;ve rode the 73 many times and many of the stops that it would miss are rarely used. However, I think the main thing is the local service that it provides along 15th, so it would be worth it to keep it on there. I would absolutely NOT get rid of the 77 though. </p>
<p>I like the idea of the 28 being extended to go to 20th NE. It wouldn&#8217;t be that much more of a time thing, and I have never really understood why there isn&#8217;t service going across I-5 at 145th, as you have the freeway station and everything. There&#8217;s already space for a stop on the overpass going east, as that is where the 373 used to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metro didn&#039;t do any of the things Sound Transit does, except for some of the east-west service.

The only reason Sound Transit really operates bus service is to build express ridership for future rail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metro didn&#8217;t do any of the things Sound Transit does, except for some of the east-west service.</p>
<p>The only reason Sound Transit really operates bus service is to build express ridership for future rail.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51258</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The county council doesn&#039;t seem to be in any hurry, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The county council doesn&#8217;t seem to be in any hurry, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51256</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s required for them to contract, I believe, Metro just has the lowest bid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s required for them to contract, I believe, Metro just has the lowest bid.</p>
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		<title>By: Silversides</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51252</link>
		<dc:creator>Silversides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once upon a time, it was ALL Metro.  Then someone said:  &quot;Let&#039;s create a Sound Transit and then &quot;contract&quot; out the services - it&#039;ll save money!&quot;  Right!  Not really happening, is it?  When I worked for Metro in the early 70&#039;s, routes were implimented on a practical, as needed basis.  Somewhere, somehow, routes sprung up everywhere, overlapping, duplicating and totally out of whack.  Now you must cut to save the money you thought you already had.  Be careful.  A comment about interlining:  In a small, inside of a neighborhood situation where two lines end up at the same terminal, it can work.  We in LA went to interlining in a big way, sometimes sending buses all the way across the city to start a new route.  Problem is LA is huge and buses more often than not, couldn&#039;t reach the next line if ever they finished the previous run on time.  Plus, buses are difficult to find by road supervisors because they begin their day with a line and bus run number that&#039;s different from the line they&#039;ll finish on.  It can be huge mess if overdone.  42 is dead?  Why did they put LTR down MLK anyway.  I don&#039;t understand the rationale.  Someone please post that reasoning.  Who would leave downtown Seattle for the airport via Rainier Valley?  Ex-Metro operator and Seattle native transplant now in management at LACMTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a time, it was ALL Metro.  Then someone said:  &#8220;Let&#8217;s create a Sound Transit and then &#8220;contract&#8221; out the services &#8211; it&#8217;ll save money!&#8221;  Right!  Not really happening, is it?  When I worked for Metro in the early 70&#8217;s, routes were implimented on a practical, as needed basis.  Somewhere, somehow, routes sprung up everywhere, overlapping, duplicating and totally out of whack.  Now you must cut to save the money you thought you already had.  Be careful.  A comment about interlining:  In a small, inside of a neighborhood situation where two lines end up at the same terminal, it can work.  We in LA went to interlining in a big way, sometimes sending buses all the way across the city to start a new route.  Problem is LA is huge and buses more often than not, couldn&#8217;t reach the next line if ever they finished the previous run on time.  Plus, buses are difficult to find by road supervisors because they begin their day with a line and bus run number that&#8217;s different from the line they&#8217;ll finish on.  It can be huge mess if overdone.  42 is dead?  Why did they put LTR down MLK anyway.  I don&#8217;t understand the rationale.  Someone please post that reasoning.  Who would leave downtown Seattle for the airport via Rainier Valley?  Ex-Metro operator and Seattle native transplant now in management at LACMTA.</p>
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		<title>By: joshuadf</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51214</link>
		<dc:creator>joshuadf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 30 is well-used from the U-District, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 30 is well-used from the U-District, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/22/metro-presents-service-cut-planning-strategies/#comment-51204</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t have to go to the ballot; the County Council can simply enact it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t have to go to the ballot; the County Council can simply enact it.</p>
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