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		<title>By: Daniel M. Laenker</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52876</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel M. Laenker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, the TIDE. Did you hear that Paul Fraim already wants to extend it to Norfolk Naval Station, but instead of going through the most densely populated, transit-conducive neighborhood in Norfolk, he wants to elevate it and build it through the uninhabited, highly polluted coal piers?

Because nothing says &quot;ridership&quot; like not going through Ghent. But I digress....</description>
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Haha, the TIDE. Did you hear that Paul Fraim already wants to extend it to Norfolk Naval Station, but instead of going through the most densely populated, transit-conducive neighborhood in Norfolk, he wants to elevate it and build it through the uninhabited, highly polluted coal piers?</p>
<p>Because nothing says &#8220;ridership&#8221; like not going through Ghent. But I digress&#8230;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52514</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justin, many other areas of public life are just the same. Try getting off a crowded escalator halfway up, or walking down a street at night. You&#039;re probably more safe on a light rail elevator than you are in Renton. :)</description>
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justin, many other areas of public life are just the same. Try getting off a crowded escalator halfway up, or walking down a street at night. You&#8217;re probably more safe on a light rail elevator than you are in Renton. :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52512</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll pay you to make good on that promise.</description>
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I&#8217;ll pay you to make good on that promise.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MarkS</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52359</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experience tells me that people who make pronouncements about &quot;leaving town for good&quot; rarely do.</description>
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Experience tells me that people who make pronouncements about &#8220;leaving town for good&#8221; rarely do.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Tooley</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52342</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Tooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20 Days until I leave Western Washington, most likely.  And, perhaps, for good.</description>
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20 Days until I leave Western Washington, most likely.  And, perhaps, for good.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52326</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re doing fine on common sense routing. A lot of the &#039;straight&#039; routes people suggest would actually be more expensive per passenger mile than what we&#039;re building. A lot of it is just knowledge - there are a ton of factors that go into making a good route, and a lot of them aren&#039;t evident just looking at a map.</description>
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We&#8217;re doing fine on common sense routing. A lot of the &#8216;straight&#8217; routes people suggest would actually be more expensive per passenger mile than what we&#8217;re building. A lot of it is just knowledge &#8211; there are a ton of factors that go into making a good route, and a lot of them aren&#8217;t evident just looking at a map.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52265</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those high speed elevators are fun. People crowd in at the zoo station&#039;s elevator in Portland all the time, and that station is far deeper than Beacon Hill.

Of course, that one is made to be fun-- instead of &quot;floors&quot;, it shows you where you are in depth and in relation to the geologic time scale.</description>
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Those high speed elevators are fun. People crowd in at the zoo station&#8217;s elevator in Portland all the time, and that station is far deeper than Beacon Hill.</p>
<p>Of course, that one is made to be fun&#8211; instead of &#8220;floors&#8221;, it shows you where you are in depth and in relation to the geologic time scale.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52261</link>
		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that the Beacon Hill elevator only thing would NOT make me want to ride LINK.  I just would not feel safe in such a small enclosed space with random people.  So what if there are security cameras, ever hear of a hat?  Anyways I know that it&#039;s far too deep for an escalator but there is no way I would use that station.</description>
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I have to say that the Beacon Hill elevator only thing would NOT make me want to ride LINK.  I just would not feel safe in such a small enclosed space with random people.  So what if there are security cameras, ever hear of a hat?  Anyways I know that it&#8217;s far too deep for an escalator but there is no way I would use that station.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52260</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, simple.

For light rail tickets, they print the location of your TVM and the number of zones, such as 1 zone, 2 zones, All zones. It&#039;s easy to know just by looking.

For bus transfers, which are purchased upon boarding, the driver stamps it with either ALL ZONES, and the type (all day, honored, youth, etc.), 2 ZONES, and the type (1-2, for starting in zone 1, going to 2; 2-3 for starting in zone 2 and going to 3), or just ONE ZONE, and the zone number.</description>
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Oh, simple.</p>
<p>For light rail tickets, they print the location of your TVM and the number of zones, such as 1 zone, 2 zones, All zones. It&#8217;s easy to know just by looking.</p>
<p>For bus transfers, which are purchased upon boarding, the driver stamps it with either ALL ZONES, and the type (all day, honored, youth, etc.), 2 ZONES, and the type (1-2, for starting in zone 1, going to 2; 2-3 for starting in zone 2 and going to 3), or just ONE ZONE, and the zone number.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Business Attorney</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52220</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Business Attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish we had light rail years ago when there was land available for common sense routes.</description>
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Wish we had light rail years ago when there was land available for common sense routes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kaleci</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52184</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is the premium service in downtown Portland?  If it&#039;s the rail, why would you make your premium service free?</description>
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Which is the premium service in downtown Portland?  If it&#8217;s the rail, why would you make your premium service free?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: L. Smith</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52089</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s interesting that TriMet wants to charge for buses but have LRT free, while we&#039;re going to do the opposite.</description>
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I think it&#8217;s interesting that TriMet wants to charge for buses but have LRT free, while we&#8217;re going to do the opposite.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52088</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they should just exempt buses from Fareless Square.  With frequent light rail trains and streetcars crisscrossing the city center, who would get on a bus for a free ride?  Take the train, its free and more comfortable (within the city center)!</description>
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I think they should just exempt buses from Fareless Square.  With frequent light rail trains and streetcars crisscrossing the city center, who would get on a bus for a free ride?  Take the train, its free and more comfortable (within the city center)!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: geekgirl</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52078</link>
		<dc:creator>geekgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, and after riding the Max, I think Portland&#039;s Zones are much smaller than Seattle&#039;s.  A trip from the airport to downtown covered three zones, and the fareless square occupies about half the area of zone 1. I can only imagine that at lot more of the tri-met busses cross from one zone from to another, compared to Metro.</description>
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Yeah, and after riding the Max, I think Portland&#8217;s Zones are much smaller than Seattle&#8217;s.  A trip from the airport to downtown covered three zones, and the fareless square occupies about half the area of zone 1. I can only imagine that at lot more of the tri-met busses cross from one zone from to another, compared to Metro.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52068</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it&#039;s possible to alight from the rear door when it&#039;s open to accept new passengers.  Also, riders could claim to have ridden within a single zone when having actually crossed into one or more zones.</description>
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Because it&#8217;s possible to alight from the rear door when it&#8217;s open to accept new passengers.  Also, riders could claim to have ridden within a single zone when having actually crossed into one or more zones.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Randay206</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52066</link>
		<dc:creator>Randay206</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do the TriMet drivers not &quot;track&quot; people that cross zone boundaries? If people just pay as they leave - problem solved! No?!?</description>
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How do the TriMet drivers not &#8220;track&#8221; people that cross zone boundaries? If people just pay as they leave &#8211; problem solved! No?!?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52061</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic: Does anyone know if the tunnel is closed? I took a 150 downtown and he used surface streets. He never explained why. I asked the driver of the 24 I took to work and he had no idea why it&#039;d be closed.</description>
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Off topic: Does anyone know if the tunnel is closed? I took a 150 downtown and he used surface streets. He never explained why. I asked the driver of the 24 I took to work and he had no idea why it&#8217;d be closed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/06/27/20-days/#comment-52047</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right TheBus.  You want a speaker?  I&#039;d gladly pay my own expenses to come over and &quot;preach&quot; Central Link and The Tide (where my family lives).

No Charge for me to come and discuss :D

As for Fareless: I think I want to head down to Portland and see if it&#039;s possible

Oh and yes Hugeasscity, STB loves their Light Rail ;)</description>
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That&#8217;s right TheBus.  You want a speaker?  I&#8217;d gladly pay my own expenses to come over and &#8220;preach&#8221; Central Link and The Tide (where my family lives).</p>
<p>No Charge for me to come and discuss :D</p>
<p>As for Fareless: I think I want to head down to Portland and see if it&#8217;s possible</p>
<p>Oh and yes Hugeasscity, STB loves their Light Rail ;)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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