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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-80097</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he would probably have become a puppet of whoever, but the relationship of the current City of Seattle establishment to both of these candidates is interesting - dread I would call it!</description>
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Yes, he would probably have become a puppet of whoever, but the relationship of the current City of Seattle establishment to both of these candidates is interesting &#8211; dread I would call it!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: serial catowner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79852</link>
		<dc:creator>serial catowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I would drink that beer!</description>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79751</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bike cops!</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79750</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll see. I&#039;m not about to knock him for driving with security.</description>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79650</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newsflash! Nobody gets sarcasm! The Times editorial about speeding up the election count is a diversion. The far more pertinent story the Seattle Times hesitates to editorialize upon is their candidate losing. &quot;heh heh. What candidate? Nothing to see here, folks. Move along. Look! Counting ballots takes too much time. Arrg.&quot;</description>
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Newsflash! Nobody gets sarcasm! The Times editorial about speeding up the election count is a diversion. The far more pertinent story the Seattle Times hesitates to editorialize upon is their candidate losing. &#8220;heh heh. What candidate? Nothing to see here, folks. Move along. Look! Counting ballots takes too much time. Arrg.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: NJL</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79642</link>
		<dc:creator>NJL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dignified=driving a car?</description>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the 4,700 remaining, only a small number are apparently from Seattle.</description>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79637</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mallahan basically said this is a referendum on the tunnel, and McGinn had the advantage from the word &quot;go&quot;, so I&#039;m not so sure he&#039;ll shut up about the tunnel.

And in terms of &quot;look[ing] more like a mayor&quot;? Please, have you seen Jan Drago? Or Sally Clark? Or perhaps Charlie Royer and Norm Rice? Casual comfort rules the day. Askew ties when you need them, jackets optional.

Biking to work isn&#039;t such a big deal, several big city mayors do it, and several big city mayors ride transit to work.</description>
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Mallahan basically said this is a referendum on the tunnel, and McGinn had the advantage from the word &#8220;go&#8221;, so I&#8217;m not so sure he&#8217;ll shut up about the tunnel.</p>
<p>And in terms of &#8220;look[ing] more like a mayor&#8221;? Please, have you seen Jan Drago? Or Sally Clark? Or perhaps Charlie Royer and Norm Rice? Casual comfort rules the day. Askew ties when you need them, jackets optional.</p>
<p>Biking to work isn&#8217;t such a big deal, several big city mayors do it, and several big city mayors ride transit to work.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Zelbinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelbinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed we don&#039;t agree on much, but I&#039;d buy you a beer for that comment.</description>
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		<title>By: Zelbinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelbinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He will not be expected to bike to city hall, so we can dispense with this for starters.&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t be too sure of that. I&#039;d bet money that he bikes into city hall more often than he does not. Same with O&#039;Brien. Seriously.</description>
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&#8220;He will not be expected to bike to city hall, so we can dispense with this for starters.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be too sure of that. I&#8217;d bet money that he bikes into city hall more often than he does not. Same with O&#8217;Brien. Seriously.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: serial catowner</title>
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		<dc:creator>serial catowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, whatevs, this is a major rejection of the status quo by Seattle voters.  Mallahan was the best propped up nobody candidate we&#039;ve seen in years and people just weren&#039;t buying.  Just look at who signed on for Mallahan and you&#039;ll have a handy list of yesterday.</description>
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Well, whatevs, this is a major rejection of the status quo by Seattle voters.  Mallahan was the best propped up nobody candidate we&#8217;ve seen in years and people just weren&#8217;t buying.  Just look at who signed on for Mallahan and you&#8217;ll have a handy list of yesterday.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss it now that close elections are no longer hanging by a chad ;-)

I agree that the cut off has to be the postmark or drop date. Otherwise true absentee voters, like those away at college or serving in the military are at a disadvantage. As we&#039;ve just seen, public opinion can change based on events of the last few days before election day.</description>
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I miss it now that close elections are no longer hanging by a chad ;-)</p>
<p>I agree that the cut off has to be the postmark or drop date. Otherwise true absentee voters, like those away at college or serving in the military are at a disadvantage. As we&#8217;ve just seen, public opinion can change based on events of the last few days before election day.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79612</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you know that Tukwila is on that new Light Rail Line, so you know what that means...

Transit is to blame!!! (Ignore the Datsun B210 behind the curtain)</description>
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And you know that Tukwila is on that new Light Rail Line, so you know what that means&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79611</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voting by mail in ballot will soon have its own excitement and suspense and traditions - at present it is still too soon after we all went to polling stations and knew that night who had won.

Give the mail in time to work out, but perhaps as Oregon does, we should ask people to get their ballots in by election day and not have election day as the last day they could mail them in.</description>
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Voting by mail in ballot will soon have its own excitement and suspense and traditions &#8211; at present it is still too soon after we all went to polling stations and knew that night who had won.</p>
<p>Give the mail in time to work out, but perhaps as Oregon does, we should ask people to get their ballots in by election day and not have election day as the last day they could mail them in.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Whittome</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/06/mcginn-slightly-widens-lead/#comment-79610</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Whittome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like a reasonable assessment of the situation.  Seattle is why I live here too which is why I poke my nose into its affairs as often as I do.  Throughout this mayoral race, it has been like a difficult child for me, but you gotta love the child all the same however much it torments you.

Yes, I too look forward to seeing McGinn&#039;s transit options, but I just hope he shuts up about the tunnel and I have a secret wish that he looked more like a mayor!  He will not be expected to bike to city hall, so we can dispense with this for starters.  The office of mayor of our great Emerald City is a dignified one and its occupants need to look mayoral and suitably dignified to hold it.</description>
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This seems like a reasonable assessment of the situation.  Seattle is why I live here too which is why I poke my nose into its affairs as often as I do.  Throughout this mayoral race, it has been like a difficult child for me, but you gotta love the child all the same however much it torments you.</p>
<p>Yes, I too look forward to seeing McGinn&#8217;s transit options, but I just hope he shuts up about the tunnel and I have a secret wish that he looked more like a mayor!  He will not be expected to bike to city hall, so we can dispense with this for starters.  The office of mayor of our great Emerald City is a dignified one and its occupants need to look mayoral and suitably dignified to hold it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: litlnemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>litlnemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly don&#039;t get why it is such a big deal to some people that we know all of the results on election night. We know most of them. Waiting a few days to know the rest is just not that big a deal. An advantage of the current system is that we know exactly when we have to get our ballots in the mail to have our votes be counted. Under the Times&#039; preferred system, we would not. (Sure... if you mail it two days before it will probably be there on time. Probably. But not necessarily.)

All they would do is basically move up Election Day by a few days for most people, just for the satisfaction of having more complete results on Election Day itself. There is no point to this.</description>
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I honestly don&#8217;t get why it is such a big deal to some people that we know all of the results on election night. We know most of them. Waiting a few days to know the rest is just not that big a deal. An advantage of the current system is that we know exactly when we have to get our ballots in the mail to have our votes be counted. Under the Times&#8217; preferred system, we would not. (Sure&#8230; if you mail it two days before it will probably be there on time. Probably. But not necessarily.)</p>
<p>All they would do is basically move up Election Day by a few days for most people, just for the satisfaction of having more complete results on Election Day itself. There is no point to this.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now that&#039;s up to needing 54-55%.</description>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newsflash! Seattle Times publishes the editorial board&#039;s first act of profound contrition regarding their inability to measure public consensus with, &quot;Let&#039;s speed up ballot counting in this state.&quot; Notice how the word &quot;Let&#039;s&quot; is used to imply a humble plea for cooperation and sharing, togetherness, hugs all round, and world peace. Counting ballots faster is certainly the issue of the day, by jonny and eh wut.</description>
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Newsflash! Seattle Times publishes the editorial board&#8217;s first act of profound contrition regarding their inability to measure public consensus with, &#8220;Let&#8217;s speed up ballot counting in this state.&#8221; Notice how the word &#8220;Let&#8217;s&#8221; is used to imply a humble plea for cooperation and sharing, togetherness, hugs all round, and world peace. Counting ballots faster is certainly the issue of the day, by jonny and eh wut.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hinckley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hinckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like he&#039;s alive at Harborview, according to the Seattle Times.</description>
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		<title>By: David in Burien</title>
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		<dc:creator>David in Burien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s gonna be a lot of &quot;inside baseball&quot; type doufus-commenters eating sh*t over this on Publicola.  

As far I&#039;m concerned, I&#039;ve been wary of both of these candidates since the beginning.  I viewed McGinn as the better of two poor candidates, with Mallahan distinguishing himself time and again as a complete pile thanks to his horrible speaking ability.  The few times he aactually spoke for himself, he sounded like he could only repeat corporate-speak aphorisms straight out of those pop-business management books you can find at the airport bookstore.  To me, someone prone to continually saying &quot;driving solutions&quot; and &quot;advantaging the synergies&quot; and &quot;leveraging the enterprise&quot; doesn&#039;t really have any original ideas.

On the other hand, this City needs an improved relationship with the State of Washington.  The State has to acknowledge Seattle&#039;s importance in the State first, but the new mayor has to do better than Greg Nickels did in working with the Leg, or at least the Gov.  Early in this race, I thought McGinn might be too prickly to carry that off.  But I thought the huge turning point in the race was handed to McGinn by the City Council when they voted to affirm the agreement in principle on the DBT.  That gave him the opportunity to sound principled (he reiterated his opposition to the tunnel) while relenting for pragmatic reasons (didn&#039;t want to go against the will of the people of Seattle).

Sorry, but outside the world of comic book politics (like those that dominated the presidential race in 2004), good politicians change their positions on specific issues without being &quot;flip-floppers.&quot;  It&#039;s called pragmatism and it&#039;s an intellectually honest approach to inducing learning into governance.  In this race, it was McGinn&#039;s first chance to look &quot;reasonable&quot; and &quot;adaptable.&quot;  And it was the point when gap in the public opinion polling began to close for McGinn.

On the transit side of things, I do look forward to the environmental study for West Side Link, and progress on the street car system.  I look forward to continuing progress in reattaining Seattle&#039;s once notable bike-friendliness.  I might live in Burien, but Seattle is why I live here so it will be interesting to see how the city progresses under a new kind of leadership.</description>
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There&#8217;s gonna be a lot of &#8220;inside baseball&#8221; type doufus-commenters eating sh*t over this on Publicola.  </p>
<p>As far I&#8217;m concerned, I&#8217;ve been wary of both of these candidates since the beginning.  I viewed McGinn as the better of two poor candidates, with Mallahan distinguishing himself time and again as a complete pile thanks to his horrible speaking ability.  The few times he aactually spoke for himself, he sounded like he could only repeat corporate-speak aphorisms straight out of those pop-business management books you can find at the airport bookstore.  To me, someone prone to continually saying &#8220;driving solutions&#8221; and &#8220;advantaging the synergies&#8221; and &#8220;leveraging the enterprise&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really have any original ideas.</p>
<p>On the other hand, this City needs an improved relationship with the State of Washington.  The State has to acknowledge Seattle&#8217;s importance in the State first, but the new mayor has to do better than Greg Nickels did in working with the Leg, or at least the Gov.  Early in this race, I thought McGinn might be too prickly to carry that off.  But I thought the huge turning point in the race was handed to McGinn by the City Council when they voted to affirm the agreement in principle on the DBT.  That gave him the opportunity to sound principled (he reiterated his opposition to the tunnel) while relenting for pragmatic reasons (didn&#8217;t want to go against the will of the people of Seattle).</p>
<p>Sorry, but outside the world of comic book politics (like those that dominated the presidential race in 2004), good politicians change their positions on specific issues without being &#8220;flip-floppers.&#8221;  It&#8217;s called pragmatism and it&#8217;s an intellectually honest approach to inducing learning into governance.  In this race, it was McGinn&#8217;s first chance to look &#8220;reasonable&#8221; and &#8220;adaptable.&#8221;  And it was the point when gap in the public opinion polling began to close for McGinn.</p>
<p>On the transit side of things, I do look forward to the environmental study for West Side Link, and progress on the street car system.  I look forward to continuing progress in reattaining Seattle&#8217;s once notable bike-friendliness.  I might live in Burien, but Seattle is why I live here so it will be interesting to see how the city progresses under a new kind of leadership.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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