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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-80161</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The file type is the extension at the end, which is .wmv.  In my Firefox browser it starts up WMP with no problem.</description>
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The file type is the extension at the end, which is .wmv.  In my Firefox browser it starts up WMP with no problem.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-80142</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, no it&#039;s not a regular file. It&#039;s something different and weird. It&#039;s 

mms://blahblahblah

Doesn&#039;t work! How about something more normal?</description>
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Martin, no it&#8217;s not a regular file. It&#8217;s something different and weird. It&#8217;s </p>
<p><a href="mms://blahblahblah" rel="nofollow">mms://blahblahblah</a></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t work! How about something more normal?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Welch</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79901</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually drove a 60 foot NF hybrid during last winter&#039;s worst snow - routes from Woodinville and Issaquah to downtown.  They did remarkably well.  I had more problems a couple of weeks later when the roads were clear and we had a late night fog followed by an early morning freeze, creating black ice everywhere.  That was my first experience having a 60 foot artic fishtail - and it was unnerving to say the least.

On snowpocalypse day, I actually got the bus from Woodinville to downtown, braving 2-foot ruts on I-520 and later from Issaquah on I-90.  I scooted right around the high-floor artics and other buses on 5th avenue, many of whom had gotten stuck after pulling into a zone (they slant towards teh downhill side) and not being able to get out, or jacknifing trying to get out.

It&#039;s an experience I&#039;ll not soon forget.</description>
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I actually drove a 60 foot NF hybrid during last winter&#8217;s worst snow &#8211; routes from Woodinville and Issaquah to downtown.  They did remarkably well.  I had more problems a couple of weeks later when the roads were clear and we had a late night fog followed by an early morning freeze, creating black ice everywhere.  That was my first experience having a 60 foot artic fishtail &#8211; and it was unnerving to say the least.</p>
<p>On snowpocalypse day, I actually got the bus from Woodinville to downtown, braving 2-foot ruts on I-520 and later from Issaquah on I-90.  I scooted right around the high-floor artics and other buses on 5th avenue, many of whom had gotten stuck after pulling into a zone (they slant towards teh downhill side) and not being able to get out, or jacknifing trying to get out.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an experience I&#8217;ll not soon forget.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79839</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, that page links to .wmv.  I don&#039;t know what MMS you&#039;re talking about.</description>
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Robert, that page links to .wmv.  I don&#8217;t know what MMS you&#8217;re talking about.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79705</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the ST artics too.  Metro operates 24 DE60LF&#039;s (9600-9623) Hybrids, and 31 D60LF&#039;s (9500-9506, 9526-9552)  So make that another 75 artic Metro has to deal with in the snow.</description>
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Don&#8217;t forget the ST artics too.  Metro operates 24 DE60LF&#8217;s (9600-9623) Hybrids, and 31 D60LF&#8217;s (9500-9506, 9526-9552)  So make that another 75 artic Metro has to deal with in the snow.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79679</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC from last year they don&#039;t get signed differently.</description>
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IIRC from last year they don&#8217;t get signed differently.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79678</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed? It&#039;s still impossible to play the video. What the heck do I have to do to make the computer understand these new &quot;MMS&quot; files now? Never heard of them before. I can see MPEG and MP3 and MP4, at least, that I know of, and MOV. How about something that will play on old computers too?</description>
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Fixed? It&#8217;s still impossible to play the video. What the heck do I have to do to make the computer understand these new &#8220;MMS&#8221; files now? Never heard of them before. I can see MPEG and MP3 and MP4, at least, that I know of, and MOV. How about something that will play on old computers too?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Oran Viriyincy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79677</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran Viriyincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79673</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me or are some of the enlarged section maps from Emergency Service Network Route Map not showing the tops of the maps?</description>
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Is it me or are some of the enlarged section maps from Emergency Service Network Route Map not showing the tops of the maps?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79665</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not Route 180, it&#039;s 180 routes.  The 39 is an example.</description>
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It&#8217;s not Route 180, it&#8217;s 180 routes.  The 39 is an example.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79664</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, whoops.  Now fixed.</description>
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Yes, whoops.  Now fixed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79652</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i forgot to mention that some routes even have a set Flood reroute plan... yeech!

So the 180...

180 Regular
180 Snow Route
180 Emergency Service Route
180 Regular/Flood Route
180 Shuttle/Flood Route

I bet there will be a lot of destination signs added to the coaches to cover all these diffrent routing varations.</description>
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i forgot to mention that some routes even have a set Flood reroute plan&#8230; yeech!</p>
<p>So the 180&#8230;</p>
<p>180 Regular<br />
180 Snow Route<br />
180 Emergency Service Route<br />
180 Regular/Flood Route<br />
180 Shuttle/Flood Route</p>
<p>I bet there will be a lot of destination signs added to the coaches to cover all these diffrent routing varations.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79651</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a very intresting service plan. It would appear that it is designed for all standard motor coaches. Many of the Emergency service routes do not follow the regular or snow route of the same number. Now you will have 3 distint varations of the route, 2 being &quot;on call&quot;. Guess you will have to do your research to find out if your route is on Snow or Emergency Service routing before you leave in very inclement weather. I wonder if metro will mark the signposts in any way since the routing on some of the lines like the &quot;1 ES&quot; and &quot;166 ES&quot; are so vastly diffrent from the regular 1 or 166. Also i guess since most DART service is subcontracted out, they will let the DART providers figure out how to operate their respective service(s).</description>
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a very intresting service plan. It would appear that it is designed for all standard motor coaches. Many of the Emergency service routes do not follow the regular or snow route of the same number. Now you will have 3 distint varations of the route, 2 being &#8220;on call&#8221;. Guess you will have to do your research to find out if your route is on Snow or Emergency Service routing before you leave in very inclement weather. I wonder if metro will mark the signposts in any way since the routing on some of the lines like the &#8220;1 ES&#8221; and &#8220;166 ES&#8221; are so vastly diffrent from the regular 1 or 166. Also i guess since most DART service is subcontracted out, they will let the DART providers figure out how to operate their respective service(s).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79641</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/traffic/2010213280_webtransitheat06m.html

Heaters proposed to keep light-rail switches snow-free
Sound Transit proposes to spend $2.4 million on heaters for some light-rail track switches, so trains could still operate if an ice storm strikes the South Seattle line.</description>
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<p>Heaters proposed to keep light-rail switches snow-free<br />
Sound Transit proposes to spend $2.4 million on heaters for some light-rail track switches, so trains could still operate if an ice storm strikes the South Seattle line.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: alexjonlin</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79640</link>
		<dc:creator>alexjonlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh they misspelled Wedgwood, everyone&#039;s always misspelling it...</description>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79633</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 180 schedule link also goes to the 39 map.</description>
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		<title>By: Adam B. Parast</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79631</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam B. Parast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or does the last link go to the 39 route map?</description>
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		<title>By: Zelbinian</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79629</link>
		<dc:creator>Zelbinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the thing I&#039;m worried about most this winter transit-wise are the ticket purchasing machines at open-air Link stations. When those capacitive touch screens get a little rain on &#039;em, they just plain don&#039;t work. That&#039;s an epic fail on ST&#039;s part.</description>
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Actually, the thing I&#8217;m worried about most this winter transit-wise are the ticket purchasing machines at open-air Link stations. When those capacitive touch screens get a little rain on &#8216;em, they just plain don&#8217;t work. That&#8217;s an epic fail on ST&#8217;s part.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79623</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, which buses are comprised of that magic 335?

DE60LF: 252 total
D60LF: 30
D60HF: 274
Breda: 59

My guess is DE60LF + D60LF + Bredas, because while that adds up to 341, I can think of at least 4 of those off the top of my head that are out of service permanently.

And I&#039;m sure the hybrids will be collecting snow at the base--I remember hearing quite a few times last year that their brake lines were freezing.  Thankfully it was in what would be the closed position.</description>
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Also, which buses are comprised of that magic 335?</p>
<p>DE60LF: 252 total<br />
D60LF: 30<br />
D60HF: 274<br />
Breda: 59</p>
<p>My guess is DE60LF + D60LF + Bredas, because while that adds up to 341, I can think of at least 4 of those off the top of my head that are out of service permanently.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure the hybrids will be collecting snow at the base&#8211;I remember hearing quite a few times last year that their brake lines were freezing.  Thankfully it was in what would be the closed position.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/11/07/metros-emergency-routing-plan/#comment-79621</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slick JavaScript!  Metro&#039;s newly hired webmaster is great at her job.  And kudos to the rest of the staff-the information provided is organized nicely.</description>
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Slick JavaScript!  Metro&#8217;s newly hired webmaster is great at her job.  And kudos to the rest of the staff-the information provided is organized nicely.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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