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		<title>By: News Roundup: Rail Grinding - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-89005</link>
		<dc:creator>News Roundup: Rail Grinding - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] online, via NorthwestHub.  The Daily has a really nice piece on the pedestrian issues.  Our take here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ericn</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87987</link>
		<dc:creator>ericn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in the Med Center along Pacific, so I&#039;m out there at night every evening. The vast majority of crime around UW is either on the Ave or near Greek Row (north of 45th), not along Pacific. It&#039;s a totally different neighborhood. There was a robbery a couple weekends ago at 15th and Pacific, but that was right after the Apple Cup, and most likely football-related.</description>
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I work in the Med Center along Pacific, so I&#8217;m out there at night every evening. The vast majority of crime around UW is either on the Ave or near Greek Row (north of 45th), not along Pacific. It&#8217;s a totally different neighborhood. There was a robbery a couple weekends ago at 15th and Pacific, but that was right after the Apple Cup, and most likely football-related.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87976</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you walked that neighborhood at night? There was plenty of street activities (lots of it not legal drug transactions) along the Ave and I&#039;m pretty sure I can find plenty more reports armed of street crime. The local safeway is known to the students as &quot;unsafeway&quot;... The issue is lack of enforcement.

A tunnel has issues with sight lines. An open air bridge is visible to the traffic below. Which allows drivers to report suspicious activities.</description>
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Have you walked that neighborhood at night? There was plenty of street activities (lots of it not legal drug transactions) along the Ave and I&#8217;m pretty sure I can find plenty more reports armed of street crime. The local safeway is known to the students as &#8220;unsafeway&#8221;&#8230; The issue is lack of enforcement.</p>
<p>A tunnel has issues with sight lines. An open air bridge is visible to the traffic below. Which allows drivers to report suspicious activities.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joshuadf</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87484</link>
		<dc:creator>joshuadf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I argue that the safety issue has nothing to do with the tunnel and everything to do with the lack of street activity. There have also been advisories about the E-1 parking lot on Montlake and it&#039;s pedestrian bridges. I&#039;m glad the station will have cameras.</description>
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I argue that the safety issue has nothing to do with the tunnel and everything to do with the lack of street activity. There have also been advisories about the E-1 parking lot on Montlake and it&#8217;s pedestrian bridges. I&#8217;m glad the station will have cameras.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87476</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a tunnel there was considered by Sound Transit early on - I seem to recall being told it was dropped for the aforementioned safety concerns. While a concourse would be nice, it still opens into a nasty garage.</description>
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Having a tunnel there was considered by Sound Transit early on &#8211; I seem to recall being told it was dropped for the aforementioned safety concerns. While a concourse would be nice, it still opens into a nasty garage.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Schiendelman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87475</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Schiendelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering UW has issued advisories about that tunnel, I&#039;d say there&#039;s plenty of reason to believe it&#039;s unsafe.</description>
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Considering UW has issued advisories about that tunnel, I&#8217;d say there&#8217;s plenty of reason to believe it&#8217;s unsafe.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joshuadf</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87441</link>
		<dc:creator>joshuadf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a good map showing the location of the station, tunnel, and underground structures including the Triangle Parking Garage and pedestrian tunnel:
http://www.cpo.washington.edu/DOCMAN/WEB_FTP/DOCMANFTP/SoundTransMap11x17clean.pdf
It&#039;s from here:
http://www.cpo.washington.edu/html/Projects_Sound_Transit.htm


The station itself is huge. From eyeballing it I don&#039;t think there is anywhere else they could have located the station and tunnel without destroying the Triangle Parking Garage and/or some other buildings, and stadium concession buildings are being demolished I think.</description>
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Here&#8217;s a good map showing the location of the station, tunnel, and underground structures including the Triangle Parking Garage and pedestrian tunnel:<br />
<a href="http://www.cpo.washington.edu/DOCMAN/WEB_FTP/DOCMANFTP/SoundTransMap11x17clean.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpo.washington.edu/DOCMAN/WEB_FTP/DOCMANFTP/SoundTransMap11x17clean.pdf</a><br />
It&#8217;s from here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cpo.washington.edu/html/Projects_Sound_Transit.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpo.washington.edu/html/Projects_Sound_Transit.htm</a></p>
<p>The station itself is huge. From eyeballing it I don&#8217;t think there is anywhere else they could have located the station and tunnel without destroying the Triangle Parking Garage and/or some other buildings, and stadium concession buildings are being demolished I think.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: joshuadf</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87430</link>
		<dc:creator>joshuadf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbery at Mrs Cook&#039;s in UVillage yesterday, clearly shopping is unsafe! 
http://twitter.com/uwalert/status/6326573344</description>
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Robbery at Mrs Cook&#8217;s in UVillage yesterday, clearly shopping is unsafe!<br />
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		<title>By: Galen Weld</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87427</link>
		<dc:creator>Galen Weld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Pacific Place is a tiny street compared to Montlake, so why are they proposing to spend 18 million to cross one small street, and still leave the huge one nearby with a cross-walk. Although crossing one street is only a small deal, it is one more thing to add to the list of inconveniences. And those all add up.</description>
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Also, Pacific Place is a tiny street compared to Montlake, so why are they proposing to spend 18 million to cross one small street, and still leave the huge one nearby with a cross-walk. Although crossing one street is only a small deal, it is one more thing to add to the list of inconveniences. And those all add up.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87416</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

Your analysis is flawed.  None of this criminal activity happened in a tunnel.  I could use these examples and argue the land bridge is unsafe.</description>
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Gary,</p>
<p>Your analysis is flawed.  None of this criminal activity happened in a tunnel.  I could use these examples and argue the land bridge is unsafe.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second this.  In NY, London, Chicago -- underground stations are &quot;extended&quot; by close-to-surface walkways under intersections.  At Union Station in NY one tunnel runs an entire block.  These are all located and managed inside the rail authority property with security and gates at each entrance.  These are also &quot;turnstile&quot; entries which ST isn&#039;t doing (for some reason) and that may be a factor.

Bridges wont serve everyone, tunnels will.  Tunnels, please.  Turnstiles too :)</description>
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I second this.  In NY, London, Chicago &#8212; underground stations are &#8220;extended&#8221; by close-to-surface walkways under intersections.  At Union Station in NY one tunnel runs an entire block.  These are all located and managed inside the rail authority property with security and gates at each entrance.  These are also &#8220;turnstile&#8221; entries which ST isn&#8217;t doing (for some reason) and that may be a factor.</p>
<p>Bridges wont serve everyone, tunnels will.  Tunnels, please.  Turnstiles too :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Eastsider</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87377</link>
		<dc:creator>Eastsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Land Bridge illustration looks like it is more meant to beautify the Rainier Vista than to serve transit. Don&#039;t know why ST should have to subsidize that.

It seems like it would be simplest if one exit from the station mezzanine level has an entrance in the triangle. It&#039;s not unusual for an underground station to have multiple exits on different sides of the street - and an undercrossing of Montlake Blvd seems attractive. If the concourse is wide it won&#039;t feel like a tunnel. 

It seems surprising that there is so little integration to bus routes. I understand that some bus routes from the Eastside via 520 are to connect to Link here, but if the bus stops are on Pacific St. in front of the hospital that isn&#039;t a particularly direct connection, and requires crossing Pacific St. to reach east/south bound buses.</description>
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The Land Bridge illustration looks like it is more meant to beautify the Rainier Vista than to serve transit. Don&#8217;t know why ST should have to subsidize that.</p>
<p>It seems like it would be simplest if one exit from the station mezzanine level has an entrance in the triangle. It&#8217;s not unusual for an underground station to have multiple exits on different sides of the street &#8211; and an undercrossing of Montlake Blvd seems attractive. If the concourse is wide it won&#8217;t feel like a tunnel. </p>
<p>It seems surprising that there is so little integration to bus routes. I understand that some bus routes from the Eastside via 520 are to connect to Link here, but if the bus stops are on Pacific St. in front of the hospital that isn&#8217;t a particularly direct connection, and requires crossing Pacific St. to reach east/south bound buses.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: phil on qa</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil on qa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get why they&#039;re not using underground links to the various sides.  Done all the time in London and other major cities.  You just walk down a different corridor and you&#039;re across the street,  just like the downtown link tunnel.</description>
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I don&#8217;t get why they&#8217;re not using underground links to the various sides.  Done all the time in London and other major cities.  You just walk down a different corridor and you&#8217;re across the street,  just like the downtown link tunnel.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/03/editorial-the-uw-land-bridge-not-so-great/#comment-87356</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a couple of examples:

University of Washington police have sent out an alert to students, faculty and staff about a robbery on campus on Sunday.

At approximately 6:15 p.m., three students walking north on Cowlitz Road toward Terry-Lander Hall were approached by two men. One of the men pulled out a black handgun, pointed it at the victims and robbed them of their laptop computers and other personal property, according to the alert.

A woman, who appeared to be serving as a lookout near the intersection of Lincoln Way and Cowlitz Road, yelled at the robbers to hurry. The robbers and the woman then fled.

Officers searched the area but didn&#039;t locate the robbers.
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Notification of a Criminal Incident
10/25/09 - Armed Robbers Arrested - Seattle Campus

On Sunday October 25th, at approximately 7:30 p.m., a male UW student was approached by three male teenagers at the Northgate Transit Center. The teens asked the victim for the time. The victim referred to his iPhone and gave them the time. The victim and three suspects rode the same bus to the area of Brooklyn Ave., N.E. and N.E. Campus Parkway where they got off the bus. The victim noticed that the suspects were joined by a fourth person and appeared to be following him. When they reached the area of N.E. 42nd and University Way, N.E., the suspects surrounded the victim and one suspect displayed a handgun. The suspects then took the victim&#039;s jacket and iPhone and fled the area southbound on foot.

UWPD and SPD officers conducted an area search. UWPD officers located possible suspects in the area of Montlake Boulevard, N.E. and N.E. Pacific Street. After a short foot pursuit three of the four suspects were detained and later identified by the victim. The suspects were turned over to SPD, who later transported them to the Youth Service Center.

The victim did not report any injuries resulting from this incident.

This case is being investigated by the Seattle Police Department under case number 2009-375875.

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On Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 7:39 p.m., a female student was walking westbound in the 1900 block of N.E. 47th St., when she was approached from behind by an unidentified male. The male grabbed her by the neck and put his hand into her pocket but was interrupted by a passing vehicle.  The suspect fled in an eastbound direction. The victim received no injuries and nothing was taken.

This case is being investigated by the UW Police Department under case number 01-09-002016. 
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On Monday, October 5th, 2009, at 8:57 p.m., North Precinct Seattle Police officers responded to a report of a robbery that occurred approximately 30 minutes earlier. A male victim not affiliated with the University reported that while walking in the area of N.E. 47th Street and University Way, N.E. a male approached him from behind, pressed a hard object into his back and demanded his property. The suspect took property from the victim and fled eastbound on N.E. 47th Street on foot.

This case is being investigated by the Seattle Police Department under case number 2009-352246.

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It&#039;s not a safe neighborhood at all. Tunnels are right out.</description>
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<p>University of Washington police have sent out an alert to students, faculty and staff about a robbery on campus on Sunday.</p>
<p>At approximately 6:15 p.m., three students walking north on Cowlitz Road toward Terry-Lander Hall were approached by two men. One of the men pulled out a black handgun, pointed it at the victims and robbed them of their laptop computers and other personal property, according to the alert.</p>
<p>A woman, who appeared to be serving as a lookout near the intersection of Lincoln Way and Cowlitz Road, yelled at the robbers to hurry. The robbers and the woman then fled.</p>
<p>Officers searched the area but didn&#8217;t locate the robbers.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Notification of a Criminal Incident<br />
10/25/09 &#8211; Armed Robbers Arrested &#8211; Seattle Campus</p>
<p>On Sunday October 25th, at approximately 7:30 p.m., a male UW student was approached by three male teenagers at the Northgate Transit Center. The teens asked the victim for the time. The victim referred to his iPhone and gave them the time. The victim and three suspects rode the same bus to the area of Brooklyn Ave., N.E. and N.E. Campus Parkway where they got off the bus. The victim noticed that the suspects were joined by a fourth person and appeared to be following him. When they reached the area of N.E. 42nd and University Way, N.E., the suspects surrounded the victim and one suspect displayed a handgun. The suspects then took the victim&#8217;s jacket and iPhone and fled the area southbound on foot.</p>
<p>UWPD and SPD officers conducted an area search. UWPD officers located possible suspects in the area of Montlake Boulevard, N.E. and N.E. Pacific Street. After a short foot pursuit three of the four suspects were detained and later identified by the victim. The suspects were turned over to SPD, who later transported them to the Youth Service Center.</p>
<p>The victim did not report any injuries resulting from this incident.</p>
<p>This case is being investigated by the Seattle Police Department under case number 2009-375875.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
On Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 7:39 p.m., a female student was walking westbound in the 1900 block of N.E. 47th St., when she was approached from behind by an unidentified male. The male grabbed her by the neck and put his hand into her pocket but was interrupted by a passing vehicle.  The suspect fled in an eastbound direction. The victim received no injuries and nothing was taken.</p>
<p>This case is being investigated by the UW Police Department under case number 01-09-002016.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
On Monday, October 5th, 2009, at 8:57 p.m., North Precinct Seattle Police officers responded to a report of a robbery that occurred approximately 30 minutes earlier. A male victim not affiliated with the University reported that while walking in the area of N.E. 47th Street and University Way, N.E. a male approached him from behind, pressed a hard object into his back and demanded his property. The suspect took property from the victim and fled eastbound on N.E. 47th Street on foot.</p>
<p>This case is being investigated by the Seattle Police Department under case number 2009-352246.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Orr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s already a tunnel from the Triangle parking garage to the hospital.  And it&#039;s not particularly unsafe.</description>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, .doc doesn&#039;t work as a link like .pdf does (which is probably a good thing). Here&#039;s the whole link:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
http://records.asuw.org/Documents/Governance%20Committee/Faculty%20Council%20on%20University%20Facilities%20and%20Services/20051017-Minutes_.doc
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If that doesn&#039;t load try a google search for &quot;uw triangle garage plans&quot;. The top one should be &lt;a href=&quot;http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Patient-Care/Locations/UWMC/Campus/Getting-to-UW-Medical-Center/Pages/default.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Getting to UW Medical Center &#124; UW Medicine, Seattle&lt;/a&gt; which is some good info on the garage. The description for the .doc file is &quot;Oct 17, 2005 ... Overview of the Medical Center Facility Master Plan Study (Helen .... access to Triangle Garage and replacement site for displaced parking. ...&quot;  I was looking for an actual floor plan, ideally with a side view showing grades but couldn&#039;t find one.</description>
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Yeah, .doc doesn&#8217;t work as a link like .pdf does (which is probably a good thing). Here&#8217;s the whole link:</p>
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<a href="http://records.asuw.org/Documents/Governance%20Committee/Faculty%20Council%20on%20University%20Facilities%20and%20Services/20051017-Minutes_.doc" rel="nofollow">http://records.asuw.org/Documents/Governance%20Committee/Faculty%20Council%20on%20University%20Facilities%20and%20Services/20051017-Minutes_.doc</a>
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<p>If that doesn&#8217;t load try a google search for &#8220;uw triangle garage plans&#8221;. The top one should be <a href="http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Patient-Care/Locations/UWMC/Campus/Getting-to-UW-Medical-Center/Pages/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">Getting to UW Medical Center | UW Medicine, Seattle</a> which is some good info on the garage. The description for the .doc file is &#8220;Oct 17, 2005 &#8230; Overview of the Medical Center Facility Master Plan Study (Helen &#8230;. access to Triangle Garage and replacement site for displaced parking. &#8230;&#8221;  I was looking for an actual floor plan, ideally with a side view showing grades but couldn&#8217;t find one.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has had the misfortune to visit the UW ICU on game days knows sports fans are more important to Seattle PD and traffic control than hospital patients or visitors.</description>
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Anyone who has had the misfortune to visit the UW ICU on game days knows sports fans are more important to Seattle PD and traffic control than hospital patients or visitors.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think crime on campus or in the U District is any more than it is in say Downtown or on Capitol Hill. This isn&#039;t to say the perception that the streets are less safe than they used to be isn&#039;t valid, I just don&#039;t think it is a problem unique to the UW and surrounding neighborhoods.

There is no reason an underground crossing of Montlake can&#039;t be made as safe as the station itself. There is also no reason a passageway through the garage and to the Hospital can&#039;t be safer than the current situation as well. The sheer volume of people will increase safety all by itself, but good design, and increased security will help as well. There is a tunnel under Benaroya Hall between Second and the University Street DSTT station. For some reason this hasn&#039;t become a hotbed of crime. In the Capitol Hill station plans there is a passage from the station mezzanine under Broadway to an entrance next to SCCC. I haven&#039;t heard any concerns this passage will be a hotbed of assaults either. Why should UW station be any different?</description>
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I don&#8217;t think crime on campus or in the U District is any more than it is in say Downtown or on Capitol Hill. This isn&#8217;t to say the perception that the streets are less safe than they used to be isn&#8217;t valid, I just don&#8217;t think it is a problem unique to the UW and surrounding neighborhoods.</p>
<p>There is no reason an underground crossing of Montlake can&#8217;t be made as safe as the station itself. There is also no reason a passageway through the garage and to the Hospital can&#8217;t be safer than the current situation as well. The sheer volume of people will increase safety all by itself, but good design, and increased security will help as well. There is a tunnel under Benaroya Hall between Second and the University Street DSTT station. For some reason this hasn&#8217;t become a hotbed of crime. In the Capitol Hill station plans there is a passage from the station mezzanine under Broadway to an entrance next to SCCC. I haven&#8217;t heard any concerns this passage will be a hotbed of assaults either. Why should UW station be any different?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Alper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had to make an educated guess, I&#039;d note that the current crosswalk cycle at Montlake is around 20 seconds.  However, even though cars keep turning west onto Pacific, the crosswalk cycle ends and northbound Montlake traffic is allowed to continue while southbound Montlake waits for the protected turn signal to expire.  By the time that expires, it&#039;s around 30 seconds.

Adding a controlled crosswalk mid-block, the crosswalk cycle will take the extra 10 seconds, so I&#039;d think walking man would be 15 seconds.  :0</description>
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If I had to make an educated guess, I&#8217;d note that the current crosswalk cycle at Montlake is around 20 seconds.  However, even though cars keep turning west onto Pacific, the crosswalk cycle ends and northbound Montlake traffic is allowed to continue while southbound Montlake waits for the protected turn signal to expire.  By the time that expires, it&#8217;s around 30 seconds.</p>
<p>Adding a controlled crosswalk mid-block, the crosswalk cycle will take the extra 10 seconds, so I&#8217;d think walking man would be 15 seconds.  :0<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole friggin campus has had crime issues! I have a kid at the college and I get the nearly daily alerts about some strong arm robbery going on over there. It should be one of the first things that Mayor McGinn addresses, beef up street patrols in the area until it settles down.

The underlying issue appears to be drug use with many of the robbers looking for cash for their next hit. And students with ipods, laptops and no weapons, or self defense training or nearby cops making them easy targets.

Any pedestrian access to this station has to have clear street visible sight lines day and night to be safe. That totally eliminates a tunnel.</description>
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The whole friggin campus has had crime issues! I have a kid at the college and I get the nearly daily alerts about some strong arm robbery going on over there. It should be one of the first things that Mayor McGinn addresses, beef up street patrols in the area until it settles down.</p>
<p>The underlying issue appears to be drug use with many of the robbers looking for cash for their next hit. And students with ipods, laptops and no weapons, or self defense training or nearby cops making them easy targets.</p>
<p>Any pedestrian access to this station has to have clear street visible sight lines day and night to be safe. That totally eliminates a tunnel.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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