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	<title>Comments on: News Roundup: Keep Grace Crunican</title>
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		<title>By: McGinn Nominates New Head for SDOT - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-95123</link>
		<dc:creator>McGinn Nominates New Head for SDOT - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog previously editorialized that the new Mayor should keep Grace Crunican, who has done an excellent job moving the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wells</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-88179</link>
		<dc:creator>Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As director of ODOT, Ms Crunican denied pedestrian advocates their plea for a wider sidewalk, wide enough for two wheelchairs to pass each other, on the Ross Island Bridge rebuild project. To add insult with injury, she refused to install the new steel barrier between the sidewalk and the curb lane. There&#039;s no room for a bike lane on this 3/4 mile bridge over the Willamette River, and so the high traffic which averages 45+mph is mere inches from pedestrians. That can be called vindictive.

In Seattle, the AWV replacement project has been characterized by obstructionism from the start. By 2007, WSDOT was still planning to build their 6-lane elevated replacement, which shows Ms Crunican was not seriously considering alternatives. She allowed clueless environmentalist-types to believe the streetcar line could be installed in the Wide Plaza for years. When finally called out on the hazardous route, she dropped the Waterfront Streetcar line entirely. The current design for Alaskan Way boulevard will not handle traffic well, with or without the Deep-bore tunnel. The Deep-bore does not handle traffic anywhere near as well as the 4-lane cut-n-cover tunnel. The Mercer West project will do harm to Lower Queen Anne community, and SDOT plans are kept secret til it&#039;s too late. She&#039;s a rat luring progressive urban planners and clueless environmentalists into accepting inferior plans.</description>
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As director of ODOT, Ms Crunican denied pedestrian advocates their plea for a wider sidewalk, wide enough for two wheelchairs to pass each other, on the Ross Island Bridge rebuild project. To add insult with injury, she refused to install the new steel barrier between the sidewalk and the curb lane. There&#8217;s no room for a bike lane on this 3/4 mile bridge over the Willamette River, and so the high traffic which averages 45+mph is mere inches from pedestrians. That can be called vindictive.</p>
<p>In Seattle, the AWV replacement project has been characterized by obstructionism from the start. By 2007, WSDOT was still planning to build their 6-lane elevated replacement, which shows Ms Crunican was not seriously considering alternatives. She allowed clueless environmentalist-types to believe the streetcar line could be installed in the Wide Plaza for years. When finally called out on the hazardous route, she dropped the Waterfront Streetcar line entirely. The current design for Alaskan Way boulevard will not handle traffic well, with or without the Deep-bore tunnel. The Deep-bore does not handle traffic anywhere near as well as the 4-lane cut-n-cover tunnel. The Mercer West project will do harm to Lower Queen Anne community, and SDOT plans are kept secret til it&#8217;s too late. She&#8217;s a rat luring progressive urban planners and clueless environmentalists into accepting inferior plans.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Doppmann</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-88022</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Doppmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything other that a per train cost would not make sense. There is only one operator per train.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-88010</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Central Link solves time travel!
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http://www.soundtransit.org/Riding-Sound-Transit/Rider-Alerts/Central-Link-Delays.xml

Central Link Light Rail  - Central Link Light Rail Service Delays

Posted Date:12 / 08 / 09 - 12:00 a.m.

Due to switch problem encountered early Monday, December 7, 2009 please anticipate delays with train service.
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Note the posted date! It&#039;s tomorrow! I assume they meant that service will be delayed today? Or is it tonight while they work on the switch?  Either way, I think I&#039;ll chose an alternate mode of travel.</description>
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Central Link solves time travel!<br />
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<p>Central Link Light Rail  &#8211; Central Link Light Rail Service Delays</p>
<p>Posted Date:12 / 08 / 09 &#8211; 12:00 a.m.</p>
<p>Due to switch problem encountered early Monday, December 7, 2009 please anticipate delays with train service.<br />
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<p>Note the posted date! It&#8217;s tomorrow! I assume they meant that service will be delayed today? Or is it tonight while they work on the switch?  Either way, I think I&#8217;ll chose an alternate mode of travel.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87972</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Metro, not the City. Metro constantly obsesses over the expensive trolley lines and service workers required; Seattle will have to fight to keep the trolley routes electric. I&#039;m sure, having said that, that having Dow as County Exec will help a lot.</description>
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It was Metro, not the City. Metro constantly obsesses over the expensive trolley lines and service workers required; Seattle will have to fight to keep the trolley routes electric. I&#8217;m sure, having said that, that having Dow as County Exec will help a lot.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sherwin Lee</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87721</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherwin Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which may actually be one of the reasons why transit usage is up...</description>
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		<title>By: Sherwin Lee</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87720</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherwin Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The results are even more dramatic when you consider hypothetical transit systems.  If one person rode the bus in my town regularly, and I invited &lt;b&gt;three&lt;/b&gt; more riders, then imagine... a 300% increase in transit usage!</description>
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The results are even more dramatic when you consider hypothetical transit systems.  If one person rode the bus in my town regularly, and I invited <b>three</b> more riders, then imagine&#8230; a 300% increase in transit usage!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Oran Viriyincy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87700</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran Viriyincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of now, yes. As the system is built out and ridership increases, it&#039;ll be the reverse as the projected 2030 (20 years from now) figures suggest.

The reason I cite Tri-Met because it is an example of a system that has had rail for over 20 years and it shows what the overall operational cost savings could be when we build our system out.

The page at http://www.publictransit.us/ptlibrary/specialreports/sr6.PortlandvsSeattle.htm compares operating costs of Seattle&#039;s &quot;all-bus&quot; system vs Portland&#039;s light rail trunk system.</description>
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As of now, yes. As the system is built out and ridership increases, it&#8217;ll be the reverse as the projected 2030 (20 years from now) figures suggest.</p>
<p>The reason I cite Tri-Met because it is an example of a system that has had rail for over 20 years and it shows what the overall operational cost savings could be when we build our system out.</p>
<p>The page at <a href="http://www.publictransit.us/ptlibrary/specialreports/sr6.PortlandvsSeattle.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.publictransit.us/ptlibrary/specialreports/sr6.PortlandvsSeattle.htm</a> compares operating costs of Seattle&#8217;s &#8220;all-bus&#8221; system vs Portland&#8217;s light rail trunk system.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87697</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at the ST budget you linked to.  It is obvious that that is the cost per each light rail car, not each train.   So, &quot;vehicle&quot; = one light rail car.

For Sounder, I did not do any calculations, since I am not familiar with Sounder trains, but I expect it is the same:  per car, not per train.</description>
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I looked at the ST budget you linked to.  It is obvious that that is the cost per each light rail car, not each train.   So, &#8220;vehicle&#8221; = one light rail car.</p>
<p>For Sounder, I did not do any calculations, since I am not familiar with Sounder trains, but I expect it is the same:  per car, not per train.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87696</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not interested in Tri-Met&#039;s cost per boarding.  I am interested in LINK cost per boarding.

So the LINK operating cost per boarding in 2010 is projected to be higher than Metro&#039;s average operating cost per boarding by a significant margin.  Metro is $3.70 and LINK is projected to be $5.63.  That is quite a difference.  As of now, it costs a lot less to move people by Metro bus than by LINK, without even considering capital costs of each.  Is that correct?</description>
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I&#8217;m not interested in Tri-Met&#8217;s cost per boarding.  I am interested in LINK cost per boarding.</p>
<p>So the LINK operating cost per boarding in 2010 is projected to be higher than Metro&#8217;s average operating cost per boarding by a significant margin.  Metro is $3.70 and LINK is projected to be $5.63.  That is quite a difference.  As of now, it costs a lot less to move people by Metro bus than by LINK, without even considering capital costs of each.  Is that correct?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87690</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vast majority of people will tend to pay their fares though.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87688</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there are the Metro Transit Police and supposedly they have a team of undercover officers who ride various routes with a history of problems. However just a hair more visible security combined with some fare enforcement would be great.</description>
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		<title>By: Oran Viriyincy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87687</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran Viriyincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they leave the train to avoid a fare then they&#039;ll have to wait another 7.5-15 minutes for the next train, which may be inspected again down the line. They already paid the time penalty. Let them waste their time to save $2.</description>
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If they leave the train to avoid a fare then they&#8217;ll have to wait another 7.5-15 minutes for the next train, which may be inspected again down the line. They already paid the time penalty. Let them waste their time to save $2.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Oran Viriyincy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87685</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran Viriyincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. I don&#039;t work for Sound Transit. It&#039;s not my proposed cost. I&#039;m just quoting Sound Transit documents</description>
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		<title>By: Oran Viriyincy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87684</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran Viriyincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the 2010 budget, page 35: &quot;Cost/boarding for 2009 $9.94 and 2010 $5.63&quot;

The cost/boarding is expected to decrease as ridership increases. The ST2 plan lists 2030 costs as follows:
Link light rail 88.5M annual riders (same as boardings?), $127M annual operating costs, $52 annual operating revenue, 41% farebox recovery. That&#039;ll be $1.44/rider.

Metro has fare/operating cost ratios for each route by time of day in their &lt;a href=&quot;http://metro.kingcounty.gov/am/reports/2008/2008-RtPerf.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Route Performance Report&lt;/a&gt; so you can see the breakdown. The recovery ratio can be as high as 71% (1 Kinnear during peak) or as low as 2% for rural routes.

ST Express consists only of limited stop, long-distance routes while Metro has a mix of services from inner-city to rural routes.

You can cherry-pick routes but the fact remains that system wide, Tri-Met&#039;s costs per boarding are lower than Metro&#039;s.</description>
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From the 2010 budget, page 35: &#8220;Cost/boarding for 2009 $9.94 and 2010 $5.63&#8243;</p>
<p>The cost/boarding is expected to decrease as ridership increases. The ST2 plan lists 2030 costs as follows:<br />
Link light rail 88.5M annual riders (same as boardings?), $127M annual operating costs, $52 annual operating revenue, 41% farebox recovery. That&#8217;ll be $1.44/rider.</p>
<p>Metro has fare/operating cost ratios for each route by time of day in their <a href="http://metro.kingcounty.gov/am/reports/2008/2008-RtPerf.pdf" rel="nofollow">Route Performance Report</a> so you can see the breakdown. The recovery ratio can be as high as 71% (1 Kinnear during peak) or as low as 2% for rural routes.</p>
<p>ST Express consists only of limited stop, long-distance routes while Metro has a mix of services from inner-city to rural routes.</p>
<p>You can cherry-pick routes but the fact remains that system wide, Tri-Met&#8217;s costs per boarding are lower than Metro&#8217;s.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87683</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1, Mike. I think even a skeletal Metro security team would help with both fare evasion and (perhaps more importantly) violations of the passenger code of conduct.</description>
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+1, Mike. I think even a skeletal Metro security team would help with both fare evasion and (perhaps more importantly) violations of the passenger code of conduct.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not going to have much success catching people dedicated to riding free and unconcerned with where they get off or when they get to their destination. And that&#039;s fine. The question is whether the vast majority of you peak-hour commuters are paying customers, and from everything I&#039;ve seen the answer is yes.</description>
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You&#8217;re not going to have much success catching people dedicated to riding free and unconcerned with where they get off or when they get to their destination. And that&#8217;s fine. The question is whether the vast majority of you peak-hour commuters are paying customers, and from everything I&#8217;ve seen the answer is yes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87680</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your proposed cost &quot;per revenue vehicle hour&quot; for Central LINK in 2010 is $329.52.  By &quot;vehicle&quot; do you mean one light rail CAR, or one light rail TRAIN (2 cars)?</description>
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Your proposed cost &#8220;per revenue vehicle hour&#8221; for Central LINK in 2010 is $329.52.  By &#8220;vehicle&#8221; do you mean one light rail CAR, or one light rail TRAIN (2 cars)?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87674</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says you, and based on what?</description>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2009/12/04/news-roundup-keep-grace-cruncican/#comment-87673</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do you get a 1/5 chance of getting caught?  There are a lot of people who ride LINK trains only between stations inside the downtown tunnel.  Fares are almost never checked inside the tunnel.

In general, the shorter of trip you take, the less chance of being checked for a fare.  I estimate that fare checkers board a train about 1 of 5 times on a full trip between Westlake and Tuwkila.  If you ride only between downtown and Beacon Hill, for example -- as many people do -- your chances of having your fare checked are much less, maybe one in ten.

And, for anyone intentionally trying to ride for free, all they have to do is stay alert, and leave the train whenever a fare checker boards.  That is easy to do.</description>
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Where do you get a 1/5 chance of getting caught?  There are a lot of people who ride LINK trains only between stations inside the downtown tunnel.  Fares are almost never checked inside the tunnel.</p>
<p>In general, the shorter of trip you take, the less chance of being checked for a fare.  I estimate that fare checkers board a train about 1 of 5 times on a full trip between Westlake and Tuwkila.  If you ride only between downtown and Beacon Hill, for example &#8212; as many people do &#8212; your chances of having your fare checked are much less, maybe one in ten.</p>
<p>And, for anyone intentionally trying to ride for free, all they have to do is stay alert, and leave the train whenever a fare checker boards.  That is easy to do.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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