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		<title>By: Straphangers Strip in NYC for No-Pants Subway Ride &#124; Diesel On Life</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-96446</link>
		<dc:creator>Straphangers Strip in NYC for No-Pants Subway Ride &#124; Diesel On Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-96378</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VERY CAREFULLY!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-96230</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just happened to be on the link to the airport for a business trip shortly after noon.  My first thought when I boarded was that there were an awful lot of people on board for a Sunday.  Then the young women by the door tookk off her skirt and handed it to her male companion.  I thought boy that&#039;s weird!  Must be some street theater.  Then some guy to my left took her picture with a professional camera and I noticed he was in his boxers.  It was then that I looked down the car and noticed there were several people in their underpants and I cracked up.  It was so funny.  They were acting so normal reading books, litening to thier I-pods.  It was great!  Thanks to all for a memorable trip to the airport!</description>
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I just happened to be on the link to the airport for a business trip shortly after noon.  My first thought when I boarded was that there were an awful lot of people on board for a Sunday.  Then the young women by the door tookk off her skirt and handed it to her male companion.  I thought boy that&#8217;s weird!  Must be some street theater.  Then some guy to my left took her picture with a professional camera and I noticed he was in his boxers.  It was then that I looked down the car and noticed there were several people in their underpants and I cracked up.  It was so funny.  They were acting so normal reading books, litening to thier I-pods.  It was great!  Thanks to all for a memorable trip to the airport!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: leero</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95912</link>
		<dc:creator>leero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me, too - you&#039;d spoil the fun!</description>
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		<title>By: Anc</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95680</link>
		<dc:creator>Anc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mass punishment is the easy way out and quite frankly retarded.  Punish those that break the law*, but let those individuals doing something totally legal have their fun.  

*although I have to say I find public nudity laws rediculous to begin with.  Like other Blue Laws I hope they go away as we continue our social progression.</description>
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Mass punishment is the easy way out and quite frankly retarded.  Punish those that break the law*, but let those individuals doing something totally legal have their fun.  </p>
<p>*although I have to say I find public nudity laws rediculous to begin with.  Like other Blue Laws I hope they go away as we continue our social progression.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95550</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am horriable at scrabble. Now, if it&#039;s Trivial Pursuit, watch out.</description>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95544</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, serves me right for attacking someone for attacking someone&#039;s spelling!  Remind me not to play you a game of Scrabble for money :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and since I try and use the english of the King James Bible it is understandable.</description>
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		<title>By: Oran Viriyincy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95540</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran Viriyincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to my Oxford dictionary, spelt is the British past and past participle form of spell.</description>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95537</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That is how it is spelt on my birth certificate&lt;/blockquote&gt;
According to Wikipedia, &quot;Spelt&quot; is a hexaploid species of wheat. Perhaps you meant spelled? Sorry, but attacking someone&#039;s spelling leaves you wide open.</description>
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<blockquote><p>That is how it is spelt on my birth certificate</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95535</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yead the flashing happened on the 174. It has been a few years. I think that one was a Tom Leykis fan as it was Friday.</description>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95534</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I did complain. And I do complain when drivers do something like that. I as a rule make sure I call when I am calm. But, according to a driver I am friendly with, most complaints do not matter. The union will protect them. Once I was riding the last 174 on a saturday schedule. I was at the first stop 15 minutes early. The bus was there. 10 minutes after the bus was scheduled to start the driver finialy pulled to the stop and let people in. When we got going we made itto the first 7-11 store. He stopped the bus and said he is going to get something to eat. 10 minutes later we got going again. We stopped not once but twice so the driver could stop and talk to hookers on Pac Highway. I was only going to Kent/Des Moines road so I did not see anything else he did. i called and filed a formal complaint on Monday. He was still driving a few years later. 

Also on a different subject. Can everyone please spell my name right. It is Mathew with one &quot;T&quot;. That is how it is spelt on my birth certificate. It is a family thing. Thanks</description>
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Well I did complain. And I do complain when drivers do something like that. I as a rule make sure I call when I am calm. But, according to a driver I am friendly with, most complaints do not matter. The union will protect them. Once I was riding the last 174 on a saturday schedule. I was at the first stop 15 minutes early. The bus was there. 10 minutes after the bus was scheduled to start the driver finialy pulled to the stop and let people in. When we got going we made itto the first 7-11 store. He stopped the bus and said he is going to get something to eat. 10 minutes later we got going again. We stopped not once but twice so the driver could stop and talk to hookers on Pac Highway. I was only going to Kent/Des Moines road so I did not see anything else he did. i called and filed a formal complaint on Monday. He was still driving a few years later. </p>
<p>Also on a different subject. Can everyone please spell my name right. It is Mathew with one &#8220;T&#8221;. That is how it is spelt on my birth certificate. It is a family thing. Thanks<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Welch</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95504</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew,

It does depend on who is driving - that doesn&#039;t make the driver correct for acting (or not acting) on a disturbance.  If what happened to you is accurate - I hope you complained and the driver got fired.  Not because I&#039;m a fan of Bush (I am most profoundly not) but because their actions were flagrantly and obviously inappropriate.  Other stuff that goes on, it&#039;s difficult for drivers to address as we receive little to no guidance about dealing with security issues onboard, and official language about our role is &quot;hands off&quot; (i.e. &quot;you are the peacekeeper, not the enforcer&quot;).  Personally I&#039;m ex military, male, 350 lbs and 43 years old and as a graduate of not only the University of Washington as an MSW candidate but the school of hard knocks - I don&#039;t hesitate to strategically address issues on the bus as they arise.

Anecdotally, the issue of preaching has come up on the #7 a time or two (I think there are a few regulars who come out mainly in the summer months) and while their behavior can border on creating a disturbance, it&#039;s generally not actionable.  On the other hand, there have been a number of cases of sexual assaults, public masturbating, etc. that leave the &quot;pants off&quot; example a bit less in the land of the ambiguous.

On the &quot;women exposing their breasts&quot; thing - um, which bus was that?  I  have some free time coming up this weekend and of course I ride the bus for free. :)</description>
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<p>It does depend on who is driving &#8211; that doesn&#8217;t make the driver correct for acting (or not acting) on a disturbance.  If what happened to you is accurate &#8211; I hope you complained and the driver got fired.  Not because I&#8217;m a fan of Bush (I am most profoundly not) but because their actions were flagrantly and obviously inappropriate.  Other stuff that goes on, it&#8217;s difficult for drivers to address as we receive little to no guidance about dealing with security issues onboard, and official language about our role is &#8220;hands off&#8221; (i.e. &#8220;you are the peacekeeper, not the enforcer&#8221;).  Personally I&#8217;m ex military, male, 350 lbs and 43 years old and as a graduate of not only the University of Washington as an MSW candidate but the school of hard knocks &#8211; I don&#8217;t hesitate to strategically address issues on the bus as they arise.</p>
<p>Anecdotally, the issue of preaching has come up on the #7 a time or two (I think there are a few regulars who come out mainly in the summer months) and while their behavior can border on creating a disturbance, it&#8217;s generally not actionable.  On the other hand, there have been a number of cases of sexual assaults, public masturbating, etc. that leave the &#8220;pants off&#8221; example a bit less in the land of the ambiguous.</p>
<p>On the &#8220;women exposing their breasts&#8221; thing &#8211; um, which bus was that?  I  have some free time coming up this weekend and of course I ride the bus for free. :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How will they get a camel on the bus?</description>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95501</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never seen it. I wish I would. I have seen preaching at transit centers though. In fact I helped a few times. I have seen times when two people were talking about Jesus, one person witnessing to another who wanted to hear, and the driver threatened to kick them off. I myself was told by a driver that I could not ride his bus because I was wearing a George W. Bush for president baseball cap in 2000. I have also been on buses where people have smoked pot, women exposed there breasts and people threatened passengers with violence. Drivers did nothing. I really think it depends on who is driving.</description>
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I&#8217;ve never seen it. I wish I would. I have seen preaching at transit centers though. In fact I helped a few times. I have seen times when two people were talking about Jesus, one person witnessing to another who wanted to hear, and the driver threatened to kick them off. I myself was told by a driver that I could not ride his bus because I was wearing a George W. Bush for president baseball cap in 2000. I have also been on buses where people have smoked pot, women exposed there breasts and people threatened passengers with violence. Drivers did nothing. I really think it depends on who is driving.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope to see some camel toe...</description>
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		<title>By: Reka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this happening only from west lake to seatac or will it be the other way around as well?  It not a no pants thing i have an issue with, its that that is during my commute to work and its a lot longer when the trains are over packed with people who wouldn&#039;t ordinarily be riding then.</description>
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Is this happening only from west lake to seatac or will it be the other way around as well?  It not a no pants thing i have an issue with, its that that is during my commute to work and its a lot longer when the trains are over packed with people who wouldn&#8217;t ordinarily be riding then.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing at all wrong with people in shorts on a train, or anywhere else for that matter. But, just because you will be in &quot;shorts&quot; doesn&#039;t mean everyone else will. I can only think of how many things were done in the name of fun that have gone terribly wrong; torchlight parade last year? Just an example but keep in mind that was only a parade and people were not walking around in underwear. Who knows if some attention seeking individual decides to show up in tidy whiteys or even a thong? You definitely dont and neither do I. There is a time and a place for everything, so it cant be compared to people in bathing suits on a beach. THIS IS A TRAIN, not a beach. I raised all boys and they walk around the house in their boxers, I don&#039;t need to tell you that sometimes the fruit pops out of the loom. It doesnt matter who knows about it, who&#039;s participating, what event is set up for it; mark my words some jerk is going to get on there with all these people participating in the name of fun &amp; ruin it for everyone. I wish the world was a nice happy joyful place where things like this could happen for everyone to get their jollies, but looking at how things have gone in the past, I cant see it ending good. Altho, I will be elated and full of joy if it does.</description>
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There&#8217;s nothing at all wrong with people in shorts on a train, or anywhere else for that matter. But, just because you will be in &#8220;shorts&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean everyone else will. I can only think of how many things were done in the name of fun that have gone terribly wrong; torchlight parade last year? Just an example but keep in mind that was only a parade and people were not walking around in underwear. Who knows if some attention seeking individual decides to show up in tidy whiteys or even a thong? You definitely dont and neither do I. There is a time and a place for everything, so it cant be compared to people in bathing suits on a beach. THIS IS A TRAIN, not a beach. I raised all boys and they walk around the house in their boxers, I don&#8217;t need to tell you that sometimes the fruit pops out of the loom. It doesnt matter who knows about it, who&#8217;s participating, what event is set up for it; mark my words some jerk is going to get on there with all these people participating in the name of fun &amp; ruin it for everyone. I wish the world was a nice happy joyful place where things like this could happen for everyone to get their jollies, but looking at how things have gone in the past, I cant see it ending good. Altho, I will be elated and full of joy if it does.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Welch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew,

&lt;b&gt;Who would be more likely to go to jail&lt;/b&gt;

I&#039;ll tell you right now:  the pants dropper.  What you describe are incidents that have actually HAPPENED on buses.  Preach about Jesus and you darn well will NOT &#039;go to jail&#039; - more likely if the driver even says &quot;boo&quot; to you, you&#039;ll get an earful from the other passengers about free speech.  Drop your pants, and you&#039;ll have security on you lickety split.  There have been a number of sexual assaults, indecent exposures and outright sickos masurbating in full view of passengers, and there&#039;s no question about that being an issue on board a bus.

I know of no case - ever - where anyone has been pulled off a bus much less cited or arrested for preaching, and it happens with a fair amount of frequency.</description>
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<p><b>Who would be more likely to go to jail</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you right now:  the pants dropper.  What you describe are incidents that have actually HAPPENED on buses.  Preach about Jesus and you darn well will NOT &#8216;go to jail&#8217; &#8211; more likely if the driver even says &#8220;boo&#8221; to you, you&#8217;ll get an earful from the other passengers about free speech.  Drop your pants, and you&#8217;ll have security on you lickety split.  There have been a number of sexual assaults, indecent exposures and outright sickos masurbating in full view of passengers, and there&#8217;s no question about that being an issue on board a bus.</p>
<p>I know of no case &#8211; ever &#8211; where anyone has been pulled off a bus much less cited or arrested for preaching, and it happens with a fair amount of frequency.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/05/ride-link-without-pants-this-sunday/#comment-95203</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say this, I am glad it is advertisied. So I can know to avoid it. If this were a spur of the moment event on a bus I was on I would not be happy. 

Here is a thought. If I were on a bus and several people dropped there pants for a prank. Then I stood up and strated preaching about Jesus. Who would be more likely to go to jail. ME for preaching or the pranksters. Me most likely.</description>
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I will say this, I am glad it is advertisied. So I can know to avoid it. If this were a spur of the moment event on a bus I was on I would not be happy. </p>
<p>Here is a thought. If I were on a bus and several people dropped there pants for a prank. Then I stood up and strated preaching about Jesus. Who would be more likely to go to jail. ME for preaching or the pranksters. Me most likely.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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