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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Open Thread: Our Train Station</title>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-103805</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking harder :-) I wonder if the overpass on the line of Weller Street could be extended to form a nice walkway to ID station.  Perhaps 4th Street could dive to track level and back... It&#039;s a bit out-of-the-way, but it makes for a decent connection to Link if signed properly.

The sidewalk across 4th would need to be much improved (and widened), and the &quot;Union Station Parking Garage&quot; would need its entrance relocated.  A *parking garage entrance* is occupying prime walking space....</description>
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Thinking harder :-) I wonder if the overpass on the line of Weller Street could be extended to form a nice walkway to ID station.  Perhaps 4th Street could dive to track level and back&#8230; It&#8217;s a bit out-of-the-way, but it makes for a decent connection to Link if signed properly.</p>
<p>The sidewalk across 4th would need to be much improved (and widened), and the &#8220;Union Station Parking Garage&#8221; would need its entrance relocated.  A *parking garage entrance* is occupying prime walking space&#8230;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-103803</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at it, I believe the correct method is to build an overpass over the tracks, with the steps &amp; elevators to platforms right across the freight tracks and across 4th Street into International District Station.</description>
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Looking at it, I believe the correct method is to build an overpass over the tracks, with the steps &amp; elevators to platforms right across the freight tracks and across 4th Street into International District Station.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100922</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. The Landmarks Preservation Board rejected the Greyhound station for preservation in Feb 2008, because the remodel in the 60&#039;s had &#039;compromised the architectural integrity&#039;. 

The proposal for 811 Stewart (below) shows a completely new design and the DPD website notes &quot;existing office structure and bus station to be demolished&quot;.

http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/GroupMeetings/DRProposal3008299-&amp;-3008442AgendaID2141.pdf</description>
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No. The Landmarks Preservation Board rejected the Greyhound station for preservation in Feb 2008, because the remodel in the 60&#8242;s had &#8216;compromised the architectural integrity&#8217;. </p>
<p>The proposal for 811 Stewart (below) shows a completely new design and the DPD website notes &#8220;existing office structure and bus station to be demolished&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/GroupMeetings/DRProposal3008299-&#038;-3008442AgendaID2141.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/GroupMeetings/DRProposal3008299-&#038;-3008442AgendaID2141.pdf</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Matt the Engineer</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100762</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt the Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great!   Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Doppmann</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100526</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Doppmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used Link to get home three weeks ago. There is good signage in the baggage claim area that leads the way to the station. If you tell them to follow the signs to the parking garage and walk north they cant miss it if they do not go to baggage claim.</description>
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I used Link to get home three weeks ago. There is good signage in the baggage claim area that leads the way to the station. If you tell them to follow the signs to the parking garage and walk north they cant miss it if they do not go to baggage claim.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Matt the Engineer</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100456</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt the Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if the airport has good sinage to get to Link?  My parents are flying in for a visit this week, and I need to know how much instruction I&#039;ll need to give them to find the station.</description>
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Does anyone know if the airport has good sinage to get to Link?  My parents are flying in for a visit this week, and I need to know how much instruction I&#8217;ll need to give them to find the station.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100361</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Mr. Former Mayor is having fun in Cambridge riding on the &quot;Trackless Trolleys&quot; and checking out the Red Line, the Green Line as well as the rest of the &quot;T&quot;.</description>
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I hope Mr. Former Mayor is having fun in Cambridge riding on the &#8220;Trackless Trolleys&#8221; and checking out the Red Line, the Green Line as well as the rest of the &#8220;T&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim F.</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100354</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I resent that. while not perfect I think we do a pretty damn good job considering we have no extra engines, run on someone else&#039;s tracks, etc.</description>
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I resent that. while not perfect I think we do a pretty damn good job considering we have no extra engines, run on someone else&#8217;s tracks, etc.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tim F.</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100353</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s no way this is actually greg nickels!</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100327</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chicago&#039;s loop area Metra/Amtrak stations&#039; platforms are indoors (underground or part of larger buildings)</description>
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Chicago&#8217;s loop area Metra/Amtrak stations&#8217; platforms are indoors (underground or part of larger buildings)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: aw</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100324</link>
		<dc:creator>aw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another unused train shed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communipaw_Terminal

Now a part of Liberty State Park in New Jersey.</description>
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Here&#8217;s another unused train shed: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communipaw_Terminal" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communipaw_Terminal</a></p>
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		<title>By: alexjonlin</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100320</link>
		<dc:creator>alexjonlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he means they will preserve the facade like on some of those SLU buildings?</description>
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Maybe he means they will preserve the facade like on some of those SLU buildings?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: litlnemo</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100316</link>
		<dc:creator>litlnemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love those roofs! Here&#039;s one in York: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/litlnemo/2872868995/</description>
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I love those roofs! Here&#8217;s one in York:<br />
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		<title>By: litlnemo</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100314</link>
		<dc:creator>litlnemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This page has more info: http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/spokanestreet.htm</description>
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This page has more info: <a href="http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/spokanestreet.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattle.gov/transportation/spokanestreet.htm</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Man</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100260</link>
		<dc:creator>Crazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just use my Clear Wimax USB modem.   Works great in Sounder and Metro buses.</description>
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I just use my Clear Wimax USB modem.   Works great in Sounder and Metro buses.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100249</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short answer is I think &quot;Nope&quot;, though some of the structures still exist.  St. Louis retains it&#039;s train shed, but the train&#039;s don&#039;t run to that station.  Same in Philadelphia where a train shed is now part of their convention center.

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Short answer is I think &#8220;Nope&#8221;, though some of the structures still exist.  St. Louis retains it&#8217;s train shed, but the train&#8217;s don&#8217;t run to that station.  Same in Philadelphia where a train shed is now part of their convention center.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickymse</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100235</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickymse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, lazarus? 

The Las Vegas Monorail is one of the few examples of a private entity trying to provide public transit, and a great lesson in the hell that prevents more private businesses from doing so?

And just imagine if we built transit here that covered 100% of Operations &amp; Maintenance!

There&#039;s nothing all that &quot;creative&quot; about it. They&#039;ve been trying to cover O&amp;M and pay back all capital expenses, and do so in a down economy when folks aren&#039;t quick to travel to Las Vegas and drop money, and they have not succeeded.

It&#039;s a cautionary tale, to be sure, but not really that spectacular. If the city knows what&#039;s good for them, they&#039;ll kick in some taxpayer monies to help support it -- and then extend it to their airport.</description>
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Really, lazarus? </p>
<p>The Las Vegas Monorail is one of the few examples of a private entity trying to provide public transit, and a great lesson in the hell that prevents more private businesses from doing so?</p>
<p>And just imagine if we built transit here that covered 100% of Operations &amp; Maintenance!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing all that &#8220;creative&#8221; about it. They&#8217;ve been trying to cover O&amp;M and pay back all capital expenses, and do so in a down economy when folks aren&#8217;t quick to travel to Las Vegas and drop money, and they have not succeeded.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a cautionary tale, to be sure, but not really that spectacular. If the city knows what&#8217;s good for them, they&#8217;ll kick in some taxpayer monies to help support it &#8212; and then extend it to their airport.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100232</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the details.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Payne</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/24/sunday-open-thread-our-train-station/#comment-100223</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not directly relevant, but clearly passengers and trains at king street station are exposed to the elements. Are there any train stations in the US which still have their big glass overall roofs? We&#039;re lucky in the UK to still have almost all of ours</description>
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Not directly relevant, but clearly passengers and trains at king street station are exposed to the elements. Are there any train stations in the US which still have their big glass overall roofs? We&#8217;re lucky in the UK to still have almost all of ours<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old Greyhound site is scheduled for Hedreen&#039;s 50 story hotel development. I&#039;m pretty sure they won&#039;t be keeping the station.</description>
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The old Greyhound site is scheduled for Hedreen&#8217;s 50 story hotel development. I&#8217;m pretty sure they won&#8217;t be keeping the station.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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