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	<title>Comments on: HOV or Transit Lane on 520?</title>
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		<title>By: Linnea Hirst</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102545</link>
		<dc:creator>Linnea Hirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you close off GP traffic between I-5 and Montlake, try to visualize how very many more cars will whip through our Montlake neighborhoods on their way to 520.  What we really need is high cost of tolls for SOVs, fast and adequate transit to get people out of their cars.  Climate change issues are upon us.</description>
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If you close off GP traffic between I-5 and Montlake, try to visualize how very many more cars will whip through our Montlake neighborhoods on their way to 520.  What we really need is high cost of tolls for SOVs, fast and adequate transit to get people out of their cars.  Climate change issues are upon us.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Marge</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102302</link>
		<dc:creator>Marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan avoided the facts and gave no real answers.

I do agree that the state should reduce the height of the bridge on the lake. The state must show more respect for the Lake and all the people who who use the bridge and look at it in the design.  The lower the profile, the better.

That ought to be easy, and less expensive, that a high bridge.</description>
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Jonathan avoided the facts and gave no real answers.</p>
<p>I do agree that the state should reduce the height of the bridge on the lake. The state must show more respect for the Lake and all the people who who use the bridge and look at it in the design.  The lower the profile, the better.</p>
<p>That ought to be easy, and less expensive, that a high bridge.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102161</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my perfect world, the 520 bridge would be heavily tolled, with 2 lanes each way, 1 rail, 1 cars/trucks, with two bicycle paths one in either direction. Rail would run to Ballard and Kirkland and Redmond.

The current actions by WSDOT are to cram a 6 lane bridge into this slot. WSDOT is all about auto traffic.

In my less perfect world, it would have no car/truck traffic and 1 lane each way with bicycle paths.</description>
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In my perfect world, the 520 bridge would be heavily tolled, with 2 lanes each way, 1 rail, 1 cars/trucks, with two bicycle paths one in either direction. Rail would run to Ballard and Kirkland and Redmond.</p>
<p>The current actions by WSDOT are to cram a 6 lane bridge into this slot. WSDOT is all about auto traffic.</p>
<p>In my less perfect world, it would have no car/truck traffic and 1 lane each way with bicycle paths.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102113</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As cool as an E/W in-city rail line between Ballard and the UW would be I&#039;m not sure that would be the best use of limited transit funds. The line would have to be in a tunnel for significant sections of the line all at $400 million/mile.

I think there are better potential rail transit lines in the city that would be more worthy of spending large sums of money building. For example a downtown/Uptown/Interbay/Ballard/Crown Hill/Northgate line has a very high ridership potential and could be much cheaper to build as much of the line could be at-grade or elevated.</description>
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As cool as an E/W in-city rail line between Ballard and the UW would be I&#8217;m not sure that would be the best use of limited transit funds. The line would have to be in a tunnel for significant sections of the line all at $400 million/mile.</p>
<p>I think there are better potential rail transit lines in the city that would be more worthy of spending large sums of money building. For example a downtown/Uptown/Interbay/Ballard/Crown Hill/Northgate line has a very high ridership potential and could be much cheaper to build as much of the line could be at-grade or elevated.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102107</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RBC,

Yes they continue to I-5.  But since every bus will use the ramp, there&#039;s no need to have a separate &quot;bypass&quot; HOV that takes up a lane width.</description>
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RBC,</p>
<p>Yes they continue to I-5.  But since every bus will use the ramp, there&#8217;s no need to have a separate &#8220;bypass&#8221; HOV that takes up a lane width.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: reality based commute</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102061</link>
		<dc:creator>reality based commute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for posting this</description>
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		<title>By: reality based commute</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102059</link>
		<dc:creator>reality based commute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, I see two problems with your ideas on 520 light rail.  Capacity and money.  

North Link will be one of the busiest lines in the nation the day it opens with peak loads between the U-District, Capitol Hill, and Downtown stations.  You have a serious plumbing problem putting full trainloads of people on to full trains of people.  The only way to possibly allow transfers is to have a matured network of trains and less pressure on each line.

And money has to be a consideration.  You are talking about at least six miles of tunneling through many challenges to get to Fremont/Ballard.  If we did what you are proposing we would have to tunnel under the UW (good luck with that), tunnel under the U-District, somehow cross I-5, most logically enter the hill under 45th to a cut and cover tunnel to the other side where you would transition to an elevated alignment.  

Sounds like the mother of all projects to me.  Who pays? Seattle?  ST3?  And is this even the priority right now?  I love rail and want to build as much as we can as fast as we can, but we have to be realistic. West Seattle makes more sense because it offers strong ridership and development potential.</description>
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Jonathan, I see two problems with your ideas on 520 light rail.  Capacity and money.  </p>
<p>North Link will be one of the busiest lines in the nation the day it opens with peak loads between the U-District, Capitol Hill, and Downtown stations.  You have a serious plumbing problem putting full trainloads of people on to full trains of people.  The only way to possibly allow transfers is to have a matured network of trains and less pressure on each line.</p>
<p>And money has to be a consideration.  You are talking about at least six miles of tunneling through many challenges to get to Fremont/Ballard.  If we did what you are proposing we would have to tunnel under the UW (good luck with that), tunnel under the U-District, somehow cross I-5, most logically enter the hill under 45th to a cut and cover tunnel to the other side where you would transition to an elevated alignment.  </p>
<p>Sounds like the mother of all projects to me.  Who pays? Seattle?  ST3?  And is this even the priority right now?  I love rail and want to build as much as we can as fast as we can, but we have to be realistic. West Seattle makes more sense because it offers strong ridership and development potential.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: reality based commute</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102053</link>
		<dc:creator>reality based commute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of putting rails on the bridge before East Link over I-90 is built is still a half-assed attempt to be cool.</description>
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The idea of putting rails on the bridge before East Link over I-90 is built is still a half-assed attempt to be cool.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: reality based commute</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-102052</link>
		<dc:creator>reality based commute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure this is true Martin, my understanding is that HOV/transit lanes also continue to I-5 under A+ so the footprint is the same whether you have HOV using those lanes as well.</description>
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I am not sure this is true Martin, my understanding is that HOV/transit lanes also continue to I-5 under A+ so the footprint is the same whether you have HOV using those lanes as well.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-101900</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should Madison Park or East Capitol Hill get special access to I-5 as compared to any other neighborhood in the eastern portion of Seattle? There are surface streets that can handle those trips just fine.

Besides a majority of the car traffic using 520 as a I-5 on and offramp is going from or to the UW, Childrens, or NE Seattle. There are plenty of other routes to and from I-5 for those areas. One of the big issues is getting cars across the ship canal, adding a second drawbridge isn&#039;t going to do much other than destroy a bunch of historic homes and add more pavement to the area.</description>
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Why should Madison Park or East Capitol Hill get special access to I-5 as compared to any other neighborhood in the eastern portion of Seattle? There are surface streets that can handle those trips just fine.</p>
<p>Besides a majority of the car traffic using 520 as a I-5 on and offramp is going from or to the UW, Childrens, or NE Seattle. There are plenty of other routes to and from I-5 for those areas. One of the big issues is getting cars across the ship canal, adding a second drawbridge isn&#8217;t going to do much other than destroy a bunch of historic homes and add more pavement to the area.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-101899</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of those cars wouldn&#039;t even be in the Montlake area if it wasn&#039;t for the highway ramps. I suspect without the WB on-ramp and EB off-ramp thousands of cars would take an entirely different route.

We have plenty of &quot;long on-ramps&quot; to I-5 called surface arterials.</description>
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Most of those cars wouldn&#8217;t even be in the Montlake area if it wasn&#8217;t for the highway ramps. I suspect without the WB on-ramp and EB off-ramp thousands of cars would take an entirely different route.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-101898</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Westbound onramp and Eastbound offramp is HOV only that should give two-way HOV access without increasing the footprint.</description>
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If the Westbound onramp and Eastbound offramp is HOV only that should give two-way HOV access without increasing the footprint.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-101895</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe there is anything really east of the Blue Line on the Green line either. The Green line stops about a mile short of the Norwalk Metrolink station which would at least provide some decent feeder traffic both ways.

Lets also not forget that the Blue line and bus portion of the transfer station is rather unattractive, under the freeway, and surrounded by a P&amp;R.</description>
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I don&#8217;t believe there is anything really east of the Blue Line on the Green line either. The Green line stops about a mile short of the Norwalk Metrolink station which would at least provide some decent feeder traffic both ways.</p>
<p>Lets also not forget that the Blue line and bus portion of the transfer station is rather unattractive, under the freeway, and surrounded by a P&amp;R.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Deb Eddy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-101740</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response, Jonathan.  Let&#039;s stay in touch. I feel like everyone more or less wants the best outcome here, but there seems to be an awful lot of drama in getting there ...</description>
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Thanks for the response, Jonathan.  Let&#8217;s stay in touch. I feel like everyone more or less wants the best outcome here, but there seems to be an awful lot of drama in getting there &#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-101738</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so your traveling from I-5 southbound and want to get to Madison Park or north or east capitol hill, by car. What routing would you suggest?  The 520 section through portage bay is an important conduit for traffic going to those neighborhoods. 

Like it or not, you can&#039;t just eliminate roads and access points for cars in your lifetime. I think a more reasonable strategy is to build a transit system that entices people out of their cars rather than deliberately making life more miserable for car users.</description>
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OK, so your traveling from I-5 southbound and want to get to Madison Park or north or east capitol hill, by car. What routing would you suggest?  The 520 section through portage bay is an important conduit for traffic going to those neighborhoods. </p>
<p>Like it or not, you can&#8217;t just eliminate roads and access points for cars in your lifetime. I think a more reasonable strategy is to build a transit system that entices people out of their cars rather than deliberately making life more miserable for car users.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And since bridges have a way of closing for repairs or being swamped, it would be good to have alternative ways to cross the lake.</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dubman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dubman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great question. I&#039;ve shared a lot of ideas and opinions here but until there is a &quot;concrete&quot; proposal for a set of specific modifications, it&#039;s hard to answer the question fully... and should there be, I probably wouldn&#039;t be the best person to answer it. I am somewhat familiar with the EIS process as a participant, but not an authority on it. My understanding is that the planning assumption has long been that over time, as the volume in the HOV lane increases, when it starts impacting transit, the restrictions on the vehicles that could use those lanes would increase. I have made the case here that the volume in the HOV lane is problematic from the day it opens, according to the current projections, and the current design inadequate in other ways, from a transit perspective.

I&#039;m not sure what scope of changes necessarily triggers a new (or supplemental) EIS. I believe there is some flexibility built into the process. WSDOT was able to slip the A+ plan into this SDEIS in a few weeks, though it was comprised of components that had undergone a lot of analysis already. Changes and hybridization of options is often done between a Draft and Final EIS, and the Final EIS has yet to be authored for this project. Again, I&#039;m not an expert on the process, but I would certainly hope that any work that remains to be done can be done quickly and efficiently with a minimum of rework. The floating bridge is already being designed with quite a bit flexibility in mind. In any case, I understand and share the concern.</description>
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That&#8217;s a great question. I&#8217;ve shared a lot of ideas and opinions here but until there is a &#8220;concrete&#8221; proposal for a set of specific modifications, it&#8217;s hard to answer the question fully&#8230; and should there be, I probably wouldn&#8217;t be the best person to answer it. I am somewhat familiar with the EIS process as a participant, but not an authority on it. My understanding is that the planning assumption has long been that over time, as the volume in the HOV lane increases, when it starts impacting transit, the restrictions on the vehicles that could use those lanes would increase. I have made the case here that the volume in the HOV lane is problematic from the day it opens, according to the current projections, and the current design inadequate in other ways, from a transit perspective.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what scope of changes necessarily triggers a new (or supplemental) EIS. I believe there is some flexibility built into the process. WSDOT was able to slip the A+ plan into this SDEIS in a few weeks, though it was comprised of components that had undergone a lot of analysis already. Changes and hybridization of options is often done between a Draft and Final EIS, and the Final EIS has yet to be authored for this project. Again, I&#8217;m not an expert on the process, but I would certainly hope that any work that remains to be done can be done quickly and efficiently with a minimum of rework. The floating bridge is already being designed with quite a bit flexibility in mind. In any case, I understand and share the concern.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dubman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dubman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DSTT is fully subscribed and has zero spare capacity. Any junction at the UW by any mode would require a transfer for destinations on the central Link line. It would seem possible to interline with East Link in the Bel-Red area... Not sure what the constraints are there but it would be great to leverage what we&#039;re planning to build anyway, and get it all the way into Redmond.</description>
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The DSTT is fully subscribed and has zero spare capacity. Any junction at the UW by any mode would require a transfer for destinations on the central Link line. It would seem possible to interline with East Link in the Bel-Red area&#8230; Not sure what the constraints are there but it would be great to leverage what we&#8217;re planning to build anyway, and get it all the way into Redmond.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on the opposition to the bridge on stilts. I&#039;ve heard two reasons for that atrocious design. One was to keep waves from breaking over the bridge. That&#039;s only really a problem now (and a limited one) because the bridge rides 3&#039; lower in the water than originally designed. The other reason was that it makes bridge maintenance easier. Yeah, leaving the lid to your garbage can open makes it easier to toss in beer cans. The State claims one of the reasons they didn&#039;t consider building a permanent structure is that a proper bridge would be elevated and that would cause noise issues... so instead they build a floating bridge and elevate it, brilliant. 

You&#039;re right also about too many cars trying to squeeze through Montlake and the we can&#039;t (or at least shouldn&#039;t) build our way out of it. Simple, HOV only access at Montlake from 7am to 7pm. Simple, cheap and effective. You get the flyer stop, the HOV/transit lanes, a much smaller footprint and could probably even dedicate a north south lane to HOV transit without the need to build anything additional over the Cut.</description>
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I&#8217;m with you on the opposition to the bridge on stilts. I&#8217;ve heard two reasons for that atrocious design. One was to keep waves from breaking over the bridge. That&#8217;s only really a problem now (and a limited one) because the bridge rides 3&#8242; lower in the water than originally designed. The other reason was that it makes bridge maintenance easier. Yeah, leaving the lid to your garbage can open makes it easier to toss in beer cans. The State claims one of the reasons they didn&#8217;t consider building a permanent structure is that a proper bridge would be elevated and that would cause noise issues&#8230; so instead they build a floating bridge and elevate it, brilliant. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right also about too many cars trying to squeeze through Montlake and the we can&#8217;t (or at least shouldn&#8217;t) build our way out of it. Simple, HOV only access at Montlake from 7am to 7pm. Simple, cheap and effective. You get the flyer stop, the HOV/transit lanes, a much smaller footprint and could probably even dedicate a north south lane to HOV transit without the need to build anything additional over the Cut.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Deb Eddy</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/01/29/hov-or-transit-lane-on-520/#comment-101663</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Jonathan, let me restate to make sure I get what you&#039;re saying:  you are recommendinng a re-design of the transit lanes so as to make carpools of whatever number of occupants impossible?  My concern is that this undermines the functional assumptions made for the corridor in such a way as to provoke/require a new EIS.</description>
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So, Jonathan, let me restate to make sure I get what you&#8217;re saying:  you are recommendinng a re-design of the transit lanes so as to make carpools of whatever number of occupants impossible?  My concern is that this undermines the functional assumptions made for the corridor in such a way as to provoke/require a new EIS.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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