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	<title>Comments on: Metro Service Change Retires Route 194</title>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104660</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3190 is a 35&#039; gillig.  Two buses are left over on the island everyday.  In the mornings, both buses are swapped with two of the bus over doing the expresses, so they don&#039;t spend the night more than one night before returning to Central Base.  3190 and one other 3100 coach would have been left over the weekend, but Monday morning would have be switch for 3600&#039;s.  That will be the new equipment for Vashon service.</description>
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3190 is a 35&#8242; gillig.  Two buses are left over on the island everyday.  In the mornings, both buses are swapped with two of the bus over doing the expresses, so they don&#8217;t spend the night more than one night before returning to Central Base.  3190 and one other 3100 coach would have been left over the weekend, but Monday morning would have be switch for 3600&#8242;s.  That will be the new equipment for Vashon service.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104490</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are very valid points, although for #3 to be realized to the full effect, all parties involved need to look at system intergration years before dirt is turned. Namely deciding what facilities along the potential rail line offer the best access for bus transit, and designing adiquate facilities to handle same (either on site or, even with off site layover space). 

It&#039;s quite the obvious the shortcomings at Sea/Tac Airport, TIB, Othello, Mt Baker, and Beacon Hill. The Sounder stations fare better, yet it becomes obvious that whomever desinged the bus terminals at many of them had little experence in the industry (Kent, Auburn). Of course its hard to design something decent without making a large land grab, but even in the case of beacon hill, Intergrated shelters, better facilitys for crossing the street, etc should have been in the plans.</description>
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They are very valid points, although for #3 to be realized to the full effect, all parties involved need to look at system intergration years before dirt is turned. Namely deciding what facilities along the potential rail line offer the best access for bus transit, and designing adiquate facilities to handle same (either on site or, even with off site layover space). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite the obvious the shortcomings at Sea/Tac Airport, TIB, Othello, Mt Baker, and Beacon Hill. The Sounder stations fare better, yet it becomes obvious that whomever desinged the bus terminals at many of them had little experence in the industry (Kent, Auburn). Of course its hard to design something decent without making a large land grab, but even in the case of beacon hill, Intergrated shelters, better facilitys for crossing the street, etc should have been in the plans.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mickymse</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104426</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickymse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect detractors here know better, but I&#039;ll state a few obvious points here anyway:

1) Link has shorter headways than the 194. Therefore, OVERALL trip time will be reduced for many riders -- even if the bus would have run faster at a given time of day than the train.

2) While Airport Station is less convenient to some travelers that the airport bus stop, it is actually &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; convenient for others, and certainly is a better connection for folks living and working nearby or heading to/from a couple of major hotel and convention centers. Therefore, OVERALL trip time will be reduced for many riders with Link.

3) The key to &quot;forcing&quot; bus riders onto rail -- and this requires vigilance by transit supporters! -- is that at least some of those bus hours must be reprogrammed to create new connecting routes and/or increased headways on the truncated bus routes. When done properly, OVERALL trip time is drastically reduced for many riders and a whole group of new riders will now have convenient options for transit use.

Win, win, win.</description>
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I expect detractors here know better, but I&#8217;ll state a few obvious points here anyway:</p>
<p>1) Link has shorter headways than the 194. Therefore, OVERALL trip time will be reduced for many riders &#8212; even if the bus would have run faster at a given time of day than the train.</p>
<p>2) While Airport Station is less convenient to some travelers that the airport bus stop, it is actually <i>more</i> convenient for others, and certainly is a better connection for folks living and working nearby or heading to/from a couple of major hotel and convention centers. Therefore, OVERALL trip time will be reduced for many riders with Link.</p>
<p>3) The key to &#8220;forcing&#8221; bus riders onto rail &#8212; and this requires vigilance by transit supporters! &#8212; is that at least some of those bus hours must be reprogrammed to create new connecting routes and/or increased headways on the truncated bus routes. When done properly, OVERALL trip time is drastically reduced for many riders and a whole group of new riders will now have convenient options for transit use.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickymse</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104419</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickymse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Norman, I have often taken 45+ minutes on the 194 from the Airport into Downtown because of traffic on the freeway... And I don&#039;t believe many commenters here would disagree that at some future point the route will have extended far enough South that an &quot;express&quot; bypass through Georgetown will make sense to construct.</description>
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Actually, Norman, I have often taken 45+ minutes on the 194 from the Airport into Downtown because of traffic on the freeway&#8230; And I don&#8217;t believe many commenters here would disagree that at some future point the route will have extended far enough South that an &#8220;express&#8221; bypass through Georgetown will make sense to construct.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Mad Park</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104287</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but THOSE &quot;second class&quot; citizens live penned up in the evil City of Seattle as opposed to the open fields and always blue skies of SW King County!</description>
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Ah, but THOSE &#8220;second class&#8221; citizens live penned up in the evil City of Seattle as opposed to the open fields and always blue skies of SW King County!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104282</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had fun on Scott&#039;s adventure, though with a similar experience. 

Team A blithely departed Westlake on Link, receiving a call from Team B 25 minutes later saying the 194 never came. Team B got on the 4th Link to pass after Team A departed.  

We timed ~7 minute walk from the Link station to the middle of the airport upstairs and a ~6 minute walk from the middle of the downstairs to the 194. Team A returned on the 194; Team B grabbed a Link back. 

In the end, the (lone data point) 194 was about 4-5 minutes faster, though as Scott said &quot;we probably won&#039;t get a paper out of this&quot;.</description>
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We had fun on Scott&#8217;s adventure, though with a similar experience. </p>
<p>Team A blithely departed Westlake on Link, receiving a call from Team B 25 minutes later saying the 194 never came. Team B got on the 4th Link to pass after Team A departed.  </p>
<p>We timed ~7 minute walk from the Link station to the middle of the airport upstairs and a ~6 minute walk from the middle of the downstairs to the 194. Team A returned on the 194; Team B grabbed a Link back. </p>
<p>In the end, the (lone data point) 194 was about 4-5 minutes faster, though as Scott said &#8220;we probably won&#8217;t get a paper out of this&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104237</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LINK could have had a faster routing into Seattle if it hadn&#039;t been twisted to serve those same &quot;second-class&quot; citizens you shed tears for.</description>
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LINK could have had a faster routing into Seattle if it hadn&#8217;t been twisted to serve those same &#8220;second-class&#8221; citizens you shed tears for.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Erik G.</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104236</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also will miss my memories of missing the last 194 for the day back when it stopped running at, IIRC, 7pm on weekdays and 5pm on Sundays.  The 174 operated by MAN Artics sure was &quot;fun&quot;.</description>
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I also will miss my memories of missing the last 194 for the day back when it stopped running at, IIRC, 7pm on weekdays and 5pm on Sundays.  The 174 operated by MAN Artics sure was &#8220;fun&#8221;.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104213</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman,

Are you suggesting that ST should have launched a costly software project to warn riders for the month and a half where both Link and the 194 went to the airport?</description>
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Norman,</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that ST should have launched a costly software project to warn riders for the month and a half where both Link and the 194 went to the airport?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Martin H. Duke</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104212</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin H. Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if Link, on average, took longer than the 194.  The 194 schedule likely does take some traffic congestion into account.  Of course, there are mitigating factors like shorter headways and faster loading and off-loading.

However, I don&#039;t think we can agree on any actionable conclusions from that.  A few minutes isn&#039;t reason enough to maintain 194 service.  I suppose Norman would argue that we shouldn&#039;t have built Central Link at all, which is both irrelevant at this point and ignores the fact that a faster scheduled time to the airport wasn&#039;t really the objective.</description>
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It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if Link, on average, took longer than the 194.  The 194 schedule likely does take some traffic congestion into account.  Of course, there are mitigating factors like shorter headways and faster loading and off-loading.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think we can agree on any actionable conclusions from that.  A few minutes isn&#8217;t reason enough to maintain 194 service.  I suppose Norman would argue that we shouldn&#8217;t have built Central Link at all, which is both irrelevant at this point and ignores the fact that a faster scheduled time to the airport wasn&#8217;t really the objective.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104207</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3190 was in service this morning on the 118/119.  I couldn&#039;t tell if the other morning on-island shuttle was a 35&#039; or a 40&#039; (I do know it was a Gillig).</description>
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#3190 was in service this morning on the 118/119.  I couldn&#8217;t tell if the other morning on-island shuttle was a 35&#8242; or a 40&#8242; (I do know it was a Gillig).<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104193</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ability to now be able to get to SouthCenter without going all the way to downtown Seattle is thanks to Metro having the courage and common sense to move buses from where they provide duplicate service to where they provide a demanded new service.  (This demanded new service is several miles from Seattle.)

Likewise, I am grateful to the county council for giving my neighborhood 20-minute frequency on the route that gets me to Link fastest, and gives me access to the rest of West Seattle via a transfer at White Center, and a much shorter, quicker path to the airport.

Gone are the days when we in south King County had only one destination we could reach without a day trip.</description>
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My ability to now be able to get to SouthCenter without going all the way to downtown Seattle is thanks to Metro having the courage and common sense to move buses from where they provide duplicate service to where they provide a demanded new service.  (This demanded new service is several miles from Seattle.)</p>
<p>Likewise, I am grateful to the county council for giving my neighborhood 20-minute frequency on the route that gets me to Link fastest, and gives me access to the rest of West Seattle via a transfer at White Center, and a much shorter, quicker path to the airport.</p>
<p>Gone are the days when we in south King County had only one destination we could reach without a day trip.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely concur with both Ben and Carl, and then some. 

Frankly, it is *beyond* dubious that someone so openly and adamantly opposed to Link consistently reports completely unverifiable anecdotal evidence that only supports his positions. 

Not only are &quot;Norman&#039;s&quot; reported Link and 194 comparisons suspicious, I&#039;m just not buying the persistent &quot;run-ins&quot; with always-anonymous tourists, ST employees, and cab drivers who all somehow spout opinions that magically dovetail with his Norman&#039;s own positions. 

Maybe sometime, Norman, you would like to mention what company a cab driver works for and ask that driver if he minds being directly quoted, with attribution. The ability to verify your &quot;reporting&quot; would be most welcome. Because, let me tell you, man: I ran into this great gal from Curitiba on Link tonight, and she said our light rail was so much hotter than the BRT in her hometown...</description>
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Completely concur with both Ben and Carl, and then some. </p>
<p>Frankly, it is *beyond* dubious that someone so openly and adamantly opposed to Link consistently reports completely unverifiable anecdotal evidence that only supports his positions. </p>
<p>Not only are &#8220;Norman&#8217;s&#8221; reported Link and 194 comparisons suspicious, I&#8217;m just not buying the persistent &#8220;run-ins&#8221; with always-anonymous tourists, ST employees, and cab drivers who all somehow spout opinions that magically dovetail with his Norman&#8217;s own positions. </p>
<p>Maybe sometime, Norman, you would like to mention what company a cab driver works for and ask that driver if he minds being directly quoted, with attribution. The ability to verify your &#8220;reporting&#8221; would be most welcome. Because, let me tell you, man: I ran into this great gal from Curitiba on Link tonight, and she said our light rail was so much hotter than the BRT in her hometown&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: litlnemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>litlnemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I wonder then if it&#039;s possible to hop on any of those shuttles if you&#039;re not a hotel guest. ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathew "RennDawg" Renner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.I.P Route 194 
It has come to an end. A bus route that was the best option for thousands. It was finally killed by positions who did not want it to compete with there precious Link Light Rail. Now South King County Residents are going to be stuck with either longer commutes or more expensive ones. Positions like Current King County Executive Dow Constitine, Former Executive Ron Sims and King County Council Members Larry Phillips and Larry Gossett who think that non-Seattle residents are second class citizens did not care that this would be bad for so many residents. Also the local Councilmember Julia Patterson who does what ever her Seattle Masters say. They say to it that this great bus route died. Sound Transit also was involved. They needed more transit riders to be forced herded onto Link. I hold out hope in what several Metro and Sound Transit operators believe. (All drive South end routes) that the 194 will be brought back. In the mean time route 194 you were taken too soon from us. We will miss you.</description>
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R.I.P Route 194<br />
It has come to an end. A bus route that was the best option for thousands. It was finally killed by positions who did not want it to compete with there precious Link Light Rail. Now South King County Residents are going to be stuck with either longer commutes or more expensive ones. Positions like Current King County Executive Dow Constitine, Former Executive Ron Sims and King County Council Members Larry Phillips and Larry Gossett who think that non-Seattle residents are second class citizens did not care that this would be bad for so many residents. Also the local Councilmember Julia Patterson who does what ever her Seattle Masters say. They say to it that this great bus route died. Sound Transit also was involved. They needed more transit riders to be forced herded onto Link. I hold out hope in what several Metro and Sound Transit operators believe. (All drive South end routes) that the 194 will be brought back. In the mean time route 194 you were taken too soon from us. We will miss you.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104132</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had the PugetPass never been invented, and the Inter-Agency transfer agreements never been implemented, many of these complaints would have been non existant. But after ten plus years of having these agreements, especally with Inter-Agency transfers people have been disenfrancised in the process.</description>
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Had the PugetPass never been invented, and the Inter-Agency transfer agreements never been implemented, many of these complaints would have been non existant. But after ten plus years of having these agreements, especally with Inter-Agency transfers people have been disenfrancised in the process.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104130</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not going to be a Straight across transferrance for a number of reasons. First, i think that the majority of the ridership was those seeking to transfer to another route at the airport, not for airport traffic. Although quite a few did seem to use it going to downtown from the airport. Infact, if you look at OD information, i think you will find more overall ridership, because... its rail!

Infact, Grey Line has cut back on the Airporter in response to LINK&#039;s opening as i&#039;m sure many of the business riders are finding out that LINK is far more convient to get downtown than the Airporter.

One of the biggest issues with the full scale opening the LINK station, and re-alignment of services is that there is no more central transfer point in the area. Services are spread out amongst the Sea/Tac Airport station, and TIB. And only 2 services of the five remaining lines service both. Here&#039;s where the new transfer policies, and indeed LINK&#039;s detrimental fare structure will come into play. 

For example, if you wished to go to Burien from Tacoma, you used to take a 574 than transfer at the airport to the 140. Pretty simple stuff, you could do it on a cash fare (lowest common denomiator, which should be the stanard for all public transit decisions). Now, you take the 574 still, however you must board a 174 at Sea-Tac Station, paying another fare, and ride the five minutes to TIB, where you can use your metro transfer to get on the 140 to continue your journey. Without an ORCA card, your cash fare costs have doubled over what was previously offered, making this trip probally 1/3 less likely for the ORCA user (Because of the added transfer) and 2/3s less likely for the cash fare user (because of both). So you have effectivly lost ridership as a result of both changes.

Personally, I&#039;d like to see a study of the policy and its effects on ridership. For example, where there more cash fare transactions in 2009 than 2010 (at the end of the year), % of ORCA card use vs. overall ridership, Ridership gain on alternative local routes over the course of calendar year, and if the information is available were they cash fare transfers. Cross agency transfers, did they go up or go down as a result of ORCA, and other similar calulations.</description>
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It&#8217;s not going to be a Straight across transferrance for a number of reasons. First, i think that the majority of the ridership was those seeking to transfer to another route at the airport, not for airport traffic. Although quite a few did seem to use it going to downtown from the airport. Infact, if you look at OD information, i think you will find more overall ridership, because&#8230; its rail!</p>
<p>Infact, Grey Line has cut back on the Airporter in response to LINK&#8217;s opening as i&#8217;m sure many of the business riders are finding out that LINK is far more convient to get downtown than the Airporter.</p>
<p>One of the biggest issues with the full scale opening the LINK station, and re-alignment of services is that there is no more central transfer point in the area. Services are spread out amongst the Sea/Tac Airport station, and TIB. And only 2 services of the five remaining lines service both. Here&#8217;s where the new transfer policies, and indeed LINK&#8217;s detrimental fare structure will come into play. </p>
<p>For example, if you wished to go to Burien from Tacoma, you used to take a 574 than transfer at the airport to the 140. Pretty simple stuff, you could do it on a cash fare (lowest common denomiator, which should be the stanard for all public transit decisions). Now, you take the 574 still, however you must board a 174 at Sea-Tac Station, paying another fare, and ride the five minutes to TIB, where you can use your metro transfer to get on the 140 to continue your journey. Without an ORCA card, your cash fare costs have doubled over what was previously offered, making this trip probally 1/3 less likely for the ORCA user (Because of the added transfer) and 2/3s less likely for the cash fare user (because of both). So you have effectivly lost ridership as a result of both changes.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d like to see a study of the policy and its effects on ridership. For example, where there more cash fare transactions in 2009 than 2010 (at the end of the year), % of ORCA card use vs. overall ridership, Ridership gain on alternative local routes over the course of calendar year, and if the information is available were they cash fare transfers. Cross agency transfers, did they go up or go down as a result of ORCA, and other similar calulations.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Oran Viriyincy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oran Viriyincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think so and I like Metro&#039;s style, it just looks right. I tried my hand at creating those things before. I think they were burnt out from updating all the maps to include the snow routes.</description>
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I think so and I like Metro&#8217;s style, it just looks right. I tried my hand at creating those things before. I think they were burnt out from updating all the maps to include the snow routes.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/06/metro-service-change-retires-route-194/#comment-104122</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I presume they are manually updating all those maps as individual graphics, instead of using GIS to generate new maps for every service change. Probally a LOT of work for the maps. I like the fact they are so clean and simple, however Metro&#039;s schedules are starting to look a bit dated.</description>
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I presume they are manually updating all those maps as individual graphics, instead of using GIS to generate new maps for every service change. Probally a LOT of work for the maps. I like the fact they are so clean and simple, however Metro&#8217;s schedules are starting to look a bit dated.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FD</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the #194. It was great, fast service to and from Sea-Tac. On a nice day, the fresh air would blow through the bus. One time, I mis-read the schedule, and I only thought there was a #174 running. Big mistake. Milk run. Yuck!</description>
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I loved the #194. It was great, fast service to and from Sea-Tac. On a nice day, the fresh air would blow through the bus. One time, I mis-read the schedule, and I only thought there was a #174 running. Big mistake. Milk run. Yuck!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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