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	<title>Comments on: Bellevue&#8217;s Proposed 405 Station: Much Less TOD</title>
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		<title>By: Reminder: ST Downtown Bellevue Open House Tonight - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-106474</link>
		<dc:creator>Reminder: ST Downtown Bellevue Open House Tonight - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] four editorials against C14E, regarding siting, placement, TOD, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Today in Transitwashing: Tunnel+Transit (Minus Transit) - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-105559</link>
		<dc:creator>Today in Transitwashing: Tunnel+Transit (Minus Transit) - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Today in Transitwashing: Tunnel+Transit (Minus Transit) by John Jensen Dan Bertolet notes that Downtown business and labor interests have launched a new website that promotes the SR-99 tunnel as good for transit, and then he points out that it isn&#8217;t good for transit at all. Just another case of transitwashing. [...]</description>
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[...] Today in Transitwashing: Tunnel+Transit (Minus Transit) by John Jensen Dan Bertolet notes that Downtown business and labor interests have launched a new website that promotes the SR-99 tunnel as good for transit, and then he points out that it isn&#8217;t good for transit at all. Just another case of transitwashing. [...]<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Wallace Hires Consultants to Promote Alignment - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104966</link>
		<dc:creator>Wallace Hires Consultants to Promote Alignment - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] manner, I think many would conclude just isn&#8217;t worth the trade-offs in accessibility, transit-oriented development, and ridership. No amount of lobbying is going to change those [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Orr</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104694</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what the 550 is. :) And the 41, and 71/72/73, and 358...  These were all made repeatedly faster and more frequent as demand increased. We already know where the high-ridership corridors are, and they&#039;ve been held behind by lack of rail for decades. (&quot;Held behind&quot; meaning the buses had to endure traffic, and many drove because the buses were too slow/infrequent.)</description>
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That&#8217;s what the 550 is. :) And the 41, and 71/72/73, and 358&#8230;  These were all made repeatedly faster and more frequent as demand increased. We already know where the high-ridership corridors are, and they&#8217;ve been held behind by lack of rail for decades. (&#8220;Held behind&#8221; meaning the buses had to endure traffic, and many drove because the buses were too slow/infrequent.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Adam B. Parast</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104556</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam B. Parast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the last two digits refer to the &quot;parent&quot; freeway. Even number routes are E/W and odd are N/S with numbering stating in the SW of the US.</description>
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Yes the last two digits refer to the &#8220;parent&#8221; freeway. Even number routes are E/W and odd are N/S with numbering stating in the SW of the US.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104523</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Comment deleted: meta-comment on trolling.]</description>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104521</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biggest irony of this entire Kemper&#039;s Kandidates saga: Mr. Freeman told us - 10 years ago - that Bellevue lacked sufficient density to justify rail transit. 

Then, he spent a decade building that density, modeling his developments on Chicago&#039;s downtown (I&#039;m not kidding. Look it up)

Now that Bellevue has density, guess what Kemper&#039;s city council wants to do?  Keep the train away from the high rise district!

To me, that is irony re-defined!</description>
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Biggest irony of this entire Kemper&#8217;s Kandidates saga: Mr. Freeman told us &#8211; 10 years ago &#8211; that Bellevue lacked sufficient density to justify rail transit. </p>
<p>Then, he spent a decade building that density, modeling his developments on Chicago&#8217;s downtown (I&#8217;m not kidding. Look it up)</p>
<p>Now that Bellevue has density, guess what Kemper&#8217;s city council wants to do?  Keep the train away from the high rise district!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104512</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I-405 is an interstate freeway. That&#039;s what the I in I-405 stands for, INTERSTATE. Even numbered three digit interstate highways are circumferential (like I-405) separate and then return to their &quot;parent&quot; (in this case, I-5) but are considered part of the interstate system.</description>
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Yes, I-405 is an interstate freeway. That&#8217;s what the I in I-405 stands for, INTERSTATE. Even numbered three digit interstate highways are circumferential (like I-405) separate and then return to their &#8220;parent&#8221; (in this case, I-5) but are considered part of the interstate system.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: John Jensen</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104509</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;I&quot; in front of 405 is &quot;Interstate.&quot;

Routing is not the same thing as station placement, but I have no idea which posts you&#039;re talking about. If we&#039;re contradicting ourselves, you could do better by actually pointing out some contradicting posts.</description>
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The &#8220;I&#8221; in front of 405 is &#8220;Interstate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Routing is not the same thing as station placement, but I have no idea which posts you&#8217;re talking about. If we&#8217;re contradicting ourselves, you could do better by actually pointing out some contradicting posts.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104502</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>405 is an interstate freeway?  

BTW, STB bloggers in the past have written that light rail routed adjacent to freeways does have significant benefits.  Why the silence now?</description>
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405 is an interstate freeway?  </p>
<p>BTW, STB bloggers in the past have written that light rail routed adjacent to freeways does have significant benefits.  Why the silence now?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Blue Swan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104471</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why they have to do all this planning and super-architecting.

Why not build the system empirically?

Try a bunch of different SoundTransit Express Bus options to simulate a light rail corridor and see what people like/ride/want more of and then go with it.

Gets rid of analysis paralysis.</description>
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I don&#8217;t know why they have to do all this planning and super-architecting.</p>
<p>Why not build the system empirically?</p>
<p>Try a bunch of different SoundTransit Express Bus options to simulate a light rail corridor and see what people like/ride/want more of and then go with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anc</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/02/08/bellevues-proposed-405-station-much-less-tod/#comment-104427</link>
		<dc:creator>Anc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HugeAssCity lives!

http://www.publicola.net/category/column/hugeasscity/

Took them long enough to get him his own page, now they just need to move his posts from the last couple of weeks there.</description>
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HugeAssCity lives!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.publicola.net/category/column/hugeasscity/" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicola.net/category/column/hugeasscity/</a></p>
<p>Took them long enough to get him his own page, now they just need to move his posts from the last couple of weeks there.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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