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	<title>Comments on: McGinn Says His Rail is Affordable</title>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112511</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If boring machine reuse is not in the cards, then why doesn&#039;t Sound Transit go ahead and let the contract on the portion of the tunnel north from Husky Stadium, and have the whole tunnel ready to open in 2017 or so?</description>
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If boring machine reuse is not in the cards, then why doesn&#8217;t Sound Transit go ahead and let the contract on the portion of the tunnel north from Husky Stadium, and have the whole tunnel ready to open in 2017 or so?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Holding out for Grade Separation - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112462</link>
		<dc:creator>Holding out for Grade Separation - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is that it won&#8217;t be grade-separated from end to end, and that&#8217;s enough for some to make blanket statements that anything less than full grade separation is unacceptable, that we should wait to do it [...]</description>
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[...] is that it won&#8217;t be grade-separated from end to end, and that&#8217;s enough for some to make blanket statements that anything less than full grade separation is unacceptable, that we should wait to do it [...]<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: East Coast Cynic</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112413</link>
		<dc:creator>East Coast Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 04:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do appreciate a mayor like McGinn, regardless of his lack of a grasp of real politik in running a city bureaucracy, that is trying his hardest to expand rail all over the sound, particularly west seattle, the eastside and ballard where it is sorely needed.</description>
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I do appreciate a mayor like McGinn, regardless of his lack of a grasp of real politik in running a city bureaucracy, that is trying his hardest to expand rail all over the sound, particularly west seattle, the eastside and ballard where it is sorely needed.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112404</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In theory, Mr. McGinn could keep “Green Line” LRT costs down by displacing street features, but that requires a sort of stubbornness and a power base of support, we don’t normally see in local government.&quot;

In other words, if you&#039;re willing to take a couple of lanes from cars, it&#039;s cheap, but nobody is willing to?

Yeah, sounds about right.

If McGinn manages to take away any car lanes for exclusive transit lanes, my hat will be off to him.</description>
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&#8220;In theory, Mr. McGinn could keep “Green Line” LRT costs down by displacing street features, but that requires a sort of stubbornness and a power base of support, we don’t normally see in local government.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, if you&#8217;re willing to take a couple of lanes from cars, it&#8217;s cheap, but nobody is willing to?</p>
<p>Yeah, sounds about right.</p>
<p>If McGinn manages to take away any car lanes for exclusive transit lanes, my hat will be off to him.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112403</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Ballard Bridge cannot accommodate rail and you wouldn’t want trains waiting for boats.&quot;

How often *are* there ships requiring openings?

I will note that in the Northeast Corridor, there are unimaginable numbers of moveable bridges which must open on demand.  They have &#039;em in the NYC Subway (Harlem River) too.  It&#039;s not inherently a problem unless there&#039;s a *lot* of shipping traffic.</description>
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&#8220;The Ballard Bridge cannot accommodate rail and you wouldn’t want trains waiting for boats.&#8221;</p>
<p>How often *are* there ships requiring openings?</p>
<p>I will note that in the Northeast Corridor, there are unimaginable numbers of moveable bridges which must open on demand.  They have &#8216;em in the NYC Subway (Harlem River) too.  It&#8217;s not inherently a problem unless there&#8217;s a *lot* of shipping traffic.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112402</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All right.  How about building bus lanes then?

*Truly* cheap -- paint -- and it would cause the buses to run on time.</description>
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All right.  How about building bus lanes then?</p>
<p>*Truly* cheap &#8212; paint &#8212; and it would cause the buses to run on time.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112399</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What you put in the street is going to move about the same speed, or slower, than the rest of the traffic.&quot;

Not if it has exclusive lanes.  Can&#039;t people tell the difference between MLK and the SLUT?</description>
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&#8220;What you put in the street is going to move about the same speed, or slower, than the rest of the traffic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not if it has exclusive lanes.  Can&#8217;t people tell the difference between MLK and the SLUT?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112398</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;won’t be able to have more than two-car trains&quot;

Your blocks are only the length of two-car trains?  Those are very frequent blocks.

Well, shut every other street crossing the train line (dead-ending on both sides).  Next question?</description>
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&#8220;won’t be able to have more than two-car trains&#8221;</p>
<p>Your blocks are only the length of two-car trains?  Those are very frequent blocks.</p>
<p>Well, shut every other street crossing the train line (dead-ending on both sides).  Next question?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112397</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed that tunnel boring machines have a startling tendency to *not* get reused (half of the ones for the Chunnel were rammed into the rock and thrown away).  I wonder if the city could buy one or two from the contractor for cheap after they&#039;ve finished the existing bores, and use them to save huge amounts of money on future bores.  (&quot;City of Seattle Tunnel Boring Machine&quot;.  Standardized Link size....)</description>
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I&#8217;ve noticed that tunnel boring machines have a startling tendency to *not* get reused (half of the ones for the Chunnel were rammed into the rock and thrown away).  I wonder if the city could buy one or two from the contractor for cheap after they&#8217;ve finished the existing bores, and use them to save huge amounts of money on future bores.  (&#8220;City of Seattle Tunnel Boring Machine&#8221;.  Standardized Link size&#8230;.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112396</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m never a fan of light rail that runs on the streets. It doesn’t offer speedier travel which is what I care about most when it comes to public transit (well that and small headways).&quot;

A light rail line with exclusive lanes and signal pre-emption, as on MLK, can in fact offer speedier travel than a bus in shared lanes on the same road.

(Yes, a bus in exclusive lanes with signal pre-emption can offer nearly the same speed -- rail accelerates slightly faster but not much.  However, rail can also offer higher capacity, and it attracts more riders.)</description>
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&#8220;I’m never a fan of light rail that runs on the streets. It doesn’t offer speedier travel which is what I care about most when it comes to public transit (well that and small headways).&#8221;</p>
<p>A light rail line with exclusive lanes and signal pre-emption, as on MLK, can in fact offer speedier travel than a bus in shared lanes on the same road.</p>
<p>(Yes, a bus in exclusive lanes with signal pre-emption can offer nearly the same speed &#8212; rail accelerates slightly faster but not much.  However, rail can also offer higher capacity, and it attracts more riders.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112395</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, no.  A light rail line down the middle of the road is a &quot;streetcar with *reservation*&quot; in the old terminology.  The exclusive streetcar-only lane makes all the difference.</description>
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Uh, no.  A light rail line down the middle of the road is a &#8220;streetcar with *reservation*&#8221; in the old terminology.  The exclusive streetcar-only lane makes all the difference.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112394</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These crossings could be wrested by brute strength from the automobile, but if they are, be sure to have Leni Riefenstahl there to record it- it would for sure be a triumph of the will.&quot;

Sounds like he&#039;s planning to do exactly that.  I wish him luck.  He may actually succeed, as the winds of change are on his side.  Or he may not.</description>
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&#8220;These crossings could be wrested by brute strength from the automobile, but if they are, be sure to have Leni Riefenstahl there to record it- it would for sure be a triumph of the will.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like he&#8217;s planning to do exactly that.  I wish him luck.  He may actually succeed, as the winds of change are on his side.  Or he may not.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112297</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of a neighborhood on the city limits, I can tell you that living near city limits makes the politics of getting services much harder.


For example, I think it would be cool to extend Rapid Ride Line C (so that it doesn&#039;t end in the middle of nowhere, er, White Center) further along Roxbury, to the Olsen/Meyer Park&amp;Ride (a topic of future consternation), continuing down Cloverdale through South Park, and then exit the city limits down 14th Ave S, either entering Hwy 99 to head to Marginal Way, or generally following the current path of the 128 through Boulevard Park, either way ending at a real destination:  Tukwila International Boulevard Station.  This could be West Seattle&#039;s rapid ride to connect to the Link spine headed south to Tacoma some day... unless West Link happens.

I think having the Line C go from somewhere to somewhere, rather than just somewhere to various neighborhoods, will help increase ridership and justify better headway, and better dedicated right-of-way.  No, I don&#039;t expect that people would ride the C between downtown and TIBS.  But I do expect that people in the neighborhoods in between would ride to the destinations in two directions, instead of all just heading downtown.  It would keep a steady flow of fullness on the bus all the way along instead of working its way from emptiness (which transit-hating car drivers take note of) to crushload.

The major problem is political boundaries.  The City of Seattle isn&#039;t going to subsidize extending the Line C to TIBS, since that extension is outside the city limits.  The county has no budget, much less a plan, for additional bus service any time soon, outside of what was promised in the Transit Now bond package.

Extending the Line C would provide South Park Boeing employees the fastest path to connecting to the 124, which they could take north to the facilities they used to be able to walk to across the South Park Bridge.

Extending the Line C, doubling frequency on the 124 (which we&#039;ve seen become the bypass for light rail blockages twice already) and building a high footbridge near the soon-to-be-removed South Park Bridge, would be far less expensive than replacing the bridge.  I&#039;m not holding my breath for this to happen, though.


We&#039;re able to get help from the city on increasing service on the 60 for one reason:  The 60 never leaves the city limits.  So, we have an odd situation.  Twelve buses pass through South Park during rush hour.  Only two of them head downtown.  We can&#039;t get help from the city for better headway downtown because ... those routes start from outside the city limits.</description>
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As a resident of a neighborhood on the city limits, I can tell you that living near city limits makes the politics of getting services much harder.</p>
<p>For example, I think it would be cool to extend Rapid Ride Line C (so that it doesn&#8217;t end in the middle of nowhere, er, White Center) further along Roxbury, to the Olsen/Meyer Park&amp;Ride (a topic of future consternation), continuing down Cloverdale through South Park, and then exit the city limits down 14th Ave S, either entering Hwy 99 to head to Marginal Way, or generally following the current path of the 128 through Boulevard Park, either way ending at a real destination:  Tukwila International Boulevard Station.  This could be West Seattle&#8217;s rapid ride to connect to the Link spine headed south to Tacoma some day&#8230; unless West Link happens.</p>
<p>I think having the Line C go from somewhere to somewhere, rather than just somewhere to various neighborhoods, will help increase ridership and justify better headway, and better dedicated right-of-way.  No, I don&#8217;t expect that people would ride the C between downtown and TIBS.  But I do expect that people in the neighborhoods in between would ride to the destinations in two directions, instead of all just heading downtown.  It would keep a steady flow of fullness on the bus all the way along instead of working its way from emptiness (which transit-hating car drivers take note of) to crushload.</p>
<p>The major problem is political boundaries.  The City of Seattle isn&#8217;t going to subsidize extending the Line C to TIBS, since that extension is outside the city limits.  The county has no budget, much less a plan, for additional bus service any time soon, outside of what was promised in the Transit Now bond package.</p>
<p>Extending the Line C would provide South Park Boeing employees the fastest path to connecting to the 124, which they could take north to the facilities they used to be able to walk to across the South Park Bridge.</p>
<p>Extending the Line C, doubling frequency on the 124 (which we&#8217;ve seen become the bypass for light rail blockages twice already) and building a high footbridge near the soon-to-be-removed South Park Bridge, would be far less expensive than replacing the bridge.  I&#8217;m not holding my breath for this to happen, though.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re able to get help from the city on increasing service on the 60 for one reason:  The 60 never leaves the city limits.  So, we have an odd situation.  Twelve buses pass through South Park during rush hour.  Only two of them head downtown.  We can&#8217;t get help from the city for better headway downtown because &#8230; those routes start from outside the city limits.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: wes kirkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wes kirkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>run for the hills; anarchy, armageddon, rapture....run!</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Arnold</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-112005</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a person that drives MLK everyday between my house in Mount Baker and I-5, a Graham Street station is a must.  However, I would place it a bit north possibly between Graham and Orcas in order to get all the home, apartment and condo dwellers between those two streets.  Isn&#039;t there some contingency remaining from ST1?  Why can&#039;t they build a decent $10m station here?</description>
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As a person that drives MLK everyday between my house in Mount Baker and I-5, a Graham Street station is a must.  However, I would place it a bit north possibly between Graham and Orcas in order to get all the home, apartment and condo dwellers between those two streets.  Isn&#8217;t there some contingency remaining from ST1?  Why can&#8217;t they build a decent $10m station here?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Honan</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-111974</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Honan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point re the ferry dock; I freely admit that I don&#039;t know downtown Seattle very well.</description>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-111955</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly, talking openly is good. Better though is that cheap talk has gotten McGinn a lot of support. Yeah, the guy&#039;s crazy... crazy like a fox!</description>
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Certainly, talking openly is good. Better though is that cheap talk has gotten McGinn a lot of support. Yeah, the guy&#8217;s crazy&#8230; crazy like a fox!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-111952</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, he doesn&#039;t have a plan or design, and has never claimed to. All he&#039;s ever presented is an idea that he&#039;d like to develop over the next two years. There&#039;s nothing wrong with talking openly about what he&#039;d like to see done.

He doesn&#039;t need authorization from the state, where&#039;d you get that idea?</description>
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You&#8217;re right, he doesn&#8217;t have a plan or design, and has never claimed to. All he&#8217;s ever presented is an idea that he&#8217;d like to develop over the next two years. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with talking openly about what he&#8217;d like to see done.</p>
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		<title>By: reality based commute</title>
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		<dc:creator>reality based commute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zed--the article is interesting, but there are three big hurdles to a cheap alignment.  First is the ship canal.  The Ballard Bridge cannot accommodate rail and you wouldn&#039;t want trains waiting for boats.  Big $$$ for a bridge here.  I don&#039;t think McGinn can build at grade through downtown on the cheap unless he runs it on the waterfront far away from uses for most people.  Big $$$ for a tunnel or to engineer an at-grade alignment.  And the Duwamish and SODO will almost certainly require elevated segments over railroad tracks and another even bigger bridge due to traffic and the steep grade into West Seattle---$$$.

McGinn has no plan, no design, no process, and no authorization from the state to do this.</description>
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Zed&#8211;the article is interesting, but there are three big hurdles to a cheap alignment.  First is the ship canal.  The Ballard Bridge cannot accommodate rail and you wouldn&#8217;t want trains waiting for boats.  Big $$$ for a bridge here.  I don&#8217;t think McGinn can build at grade through downtown on the cheap unless he runs it on the waterfront far away from uses for most people.  Big $$$ for a tunnel or to engineer an at-grade alignment.  And the Duwamish and SODO will almost certainly require elevated segments over railroad tracks and another even bigger bridge due to traffic and the steep grade into West Seattle&#8212;$$$.</p>
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		<title>By: ericn</title>
		<link>http://seattletransitblog.com/2010/03/24/mcginn-says-his-rail-is-affordable/#comment-111924</link>
		<dc:creator>ericn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U District-Ballard express bus is the 46.</description>
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