Sound Transit Has a New Website

April 6, 2011 at 10:08 am
New Sound Transit home page

Home page of redesigned Sound Transit website

Sound Transit’s completely redesigned website went live on Tuesday evening. My first impressions are mostly positive despite the glitches, which should be worked out soon. The design is modern, fresh, and clean. Key customer information is logically organized and easily accessible right from the home page and menu bar. There is a brand new trip planner and interactive mapping system. Check it out and let Sound Transit know what you think by clicking Submit Feedback in the top right corner.

More initial impressions after the jump.

The Trip Planner works very much like Google’s trip planner, with a large map showing the chosen itinerary, and your route options on the side. You can also plan a trip directly from the map by right-clicking on any location. Although the directions are detailed, you can’t click on them to zoom in and follow the route step-by-step, like on Google. It also shows the cash fare versus ORCA fare.

The printed version of the itinerary needs much improvement. Google presents it on a single page, map included. Sound Transit’s takes up 3 pages, wastes half of the paper with very small and poorly formatted text and doesn’t include a map.

The new Maps page is interactive and regional, including bus routes from all six regional bus operators, Sounder, Link, and the Washington State Ferries. It’s missing King County ferries, the South Lake Union Streetcar, and the Seattle Center Monorail. The locations of ORCA/fare outlets (finally!), park & rides, and individual stops/stations (when zoomed in close enough) can be displayed. Clicking on them brings a pop-up with useful information.

All maps on the website use the same platform as the trip planner, however, a trip cannot be planned from the Map page or any other map other than Trip Planner’s. Why not? Multiple modes can be shown on the map at the same time, however, you cannot choose to display multiple bus or ferry routes together. You cannot search for specific stops/stations on the map or website.

There no longer appears to be an overall system map (one can be accessed from the schedule book PDF) even though many pages link to a “System Map”. You cannot print any of the interactive maps on the website. It just gives you a page of text without the map.

The Rider Guide, together with Fares & Passes and Schedules, provide all of the information someone needs to ride Sound Transit. Much of the information in the Rider Guide was buried under layers of navigation and weren’t easily discovered from the home page. There are shortcuts to most frequently requested information from the home page.

On the home page: One can’t tell if there’s an alert for Sounder or Link without clicking on its tab on the home page. A way to quickly see all service status from the home page would be helpful. I hope to see the rotating generic photos eventually replaced with current news and promotions like on Community Transit’s website. A nitpick: each icon’s white background is visible. They should be transparent.

One thing bus and train fans will miss is the information page about the vehicles that Sound Transit uses. Those fans, like myself, will likely not appreciate being called “suspicious” for “taking photos of transit operations and equipment”. Sound Transit has told me this morning they will remove that reference to photography and that their photo policy (which is nowhere on the website) has not changed but I digress.

In my opinion, the redesign is a great improvement, no doubt thanks to the feedback Sound Transit received from users, so be sure to continue providing feedback. Also, STB’s own Ben Schiendelman and John Jensen were on the design committee so they’re reading your comments here, too.

66 Responses to Sound Transit Has a New Website

Mike B says:


[complaint about photo policy, removed at commenter's request.]

Luk says:


I tried to take picture inside the Sounder when I first got a chance to ride it about 2 or 3 years ago and almost got yelled at by the conductor person.

Bruce Gray says:


As Oran mentioned, we’re fixing the sentence regarding photography and suspicious activity.

The new bullet will say something like, “Please report any suspicious activity.”

Anyone is free to take pictures in any public area of our facilities.

Bruce Gray
ST Spokesman

Mike B says:


Thank you for your prompt response, Mr. Gray! It’s much appreciated by the photographer community.

Erik G. says:


That lady in the photo has at least one, probably two KNITTING NEEDLES!!!!

Why, she could poke someone’s eye out! And then demand to have the train go Straight to Cuba:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9aZNKWLAWw

Luk says:


Only showing 5 transit agencies’ routes, Kitsap Transit is not an option on the map. The map loads a bit slow, but I suspect it’s partially at fault on my part. And it will be nice if I can use the scroll on the mouse to zoom-in on the map (I can do that on regular Bing Maps). Too bad they somehow have to (do they?) choose the “local” company or else it would be nicer if they chose Google Maps instead.


I thought I saw Kitsap last night or I was just excited for the new map and assumed it was there.

Morgan Wick says:


Or you mistook “select transit agency” for an actual agency?

JohnS says:


could be licensing costs…Bing may be more expensive.

Tim says:


Neither Bing nor Google cost anything.

De Meyers says:


There is a licensing cost for both bing and google maps when you create a custom application. Sound Transit negotiated an agreement with Bing so that ST and our partner agencies can have unlimited use of it.

Charles says:


It’s a very nice Web 2.0 upgrade. Nice fit and finish. Functions very fast in Chrome. I think they should tweak the colors especially in the menu bar to be less ‘dull and depressing’. I’d encourage them to use their livery colors (Blue/Green/White) to great effect here. The Bing trip planner is interesting and perhaps an improvement over the Metro planner but I think has some limitations compared to Google’s.

The link to projects and governance are there but are of far lower profile compared to the past site.

SousDesNuages says:


Thumbs up on the new look and layout! Haven’t had the chance to use it extensively, yet, though I’m not a demanding user. My main use is for project updates on U-Link and other projects, but also on occasion for bus schedules.

Erik G. says:


Nice to see Michael Stipe of R.E.M. using Sound Transit “REX”, although no one are CPSRTA calls the buses that any more:

Adam Parast says:


Please stop posting long URLs.

Erik G. says:


It was a URL of only 67 characters. If the commenting software package STB uses cannot handle 67 character-long URLs, I’d suggest there might be a need to seek an alternative.

But here is a “Tiny URL” alternative of only 26 characters:

http://tinyurl.com/3cy5se3

Erik G. says:


Edit to add:

I’ll also do my best to use Tiny URL, or the like, in future.

Tim says:


Logo fixed too. Yesterday in Firefox the logo was just showing as SoundTransi

Also, I’ve noticed on the map page that any stop that Sound Transit shares with other agency(ies) do not show the routes for the others. For example, both bays at the Mountlake Terrace Freeway station only show route 511.

Brian Ferris says:


A comment on the trip planner:

It’s my understanding that the trip planner is still using the same internal routing engine that powers the King County Metro trip planner interface and other regional sites. That said, the addition of the map and other usability improvements clearly make a difference.


What is the significance of the footnote on each map:

“ATIS: Powered by Trapeze.”

Trapeze appears to be a company specializing in transit scheduling and trip planning. Is that what’s powering the existing system? I thought the old system was custom made for our region.

Brandon says:


Yes, the old routing engine, called ATIS, made by a company Trapeze, powers the new interface. I believe ATIS is in use in several metropolitan areas, though the only one I can remember off the top of my head is Boston’s MBTA.

Brian Ferris says:


ATIS is the original trip planner that pretty much only we (the agencies participating in the regional trip planner program) use. ATIS was bought by Trapeze, a transit software company, at some point. Trapeze makes its own trip planner, but supports the existing ATIS just for us. As far as I know, not much work is being done on ATIS. Upgrading to the latest and greatest trip planner from Trapeze would likely cost a couple million bucks.

I say save our money and stick to Google, Bing, etc.

Bruce says:


Agreed. No point spending public money to duplicate what a number of companies are doing for free. I’ve never met a trip planner that was better than Google maps; in fact I’ve never used another trip planner since that went live.

Jack says:


The trip planner with two Seattle addresses didn’t work for me today. Anyone know if this is a bug or feature?


Have you entered the addresses with too much info? Just enter the address number and street, no city, no zip.

I don’t know what happened but click the feedback link above the trip planner form to report your problem. It’s really easy.

Erik G. says:


It always amuses me when public entities, who are very much subject to the language contained in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and in this case, Article One, ยง5 of the Washington State Constitution do not do a little basic research on whether the “horse has left the barn”:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=sound%20transit

http://www.google.com/images?q=sound+transit

Especially when said entity is guilty of violating its own “restrictions”:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/soundtransit/

P.S. Print out: http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm and carry with your camera at all times. Bruce Gray isn’t always available to correct the Rent-A-Kops.

Adam B. Parast says:


Sound Transit doesn’t administer the Sound Transit Flickr Pool, I do. I set it up years ago for both Metro and Sound Transit before either of the agencies were on there.

Erik G. says:


Fine, I hope ST is okay with their logo being used on the Flick site.

But they also send out a picture-of-the-week each Friday, so they were still violating their own posted policy until it was changed sometime in the last 24 hours.

Warren on Beacon says:


their meeting times at http://www.soundtransit.org/About-Sound-Transit/News-and-events/Calendar.xml gives meeting times of am times instead of pm times. Such examples as the citizen’s oversight meeting from 12:30a-3a, or the board meeting from 5:30a-8:30a. Yep, ST has public meetings in the wee hours of the night.

Adam B. Parast says:


I don’t like the swooshes across the bottom of the page. It looks tacky and last minute. I think the ST wave could be better integrated somewhere else on the page.

Z says:


i wonder if they are not planning to refresh their image some. The origonal waves livery and branding is 13 years old now…

Zed says:


On the maps page when I display Central Link and zoom into the downtown area it shows two routes, the correct route and a diagonal route from Sodo to University Street. Has anyone else seen this?

Oran says:


I do. It appears to be a mapping error/glitch.

Carl says:


What they call a “schedule” for Link light rail is an abomination:

http://www.soundtransit.org/Schedules/Central-Link-light-rail.xml

Beyond listing first/last train, it pretty much says “show up and wait”

Why do bus riders get first class information, in contrast:

http://www.soundtransit.org/Schedules/ST-Express-Bus/550.xml

Erik G. says:


Because they are given second-class-transit?

(It is especially fun because in the case of LINK, ST controls the Right-Of-Way. The 550 bus runs on Right-Of-Way controlled by SDOT, WSDoT, and the cities of Mercer Island and Bellevue.)

Carl says:


Link: first class service with second class information?

Z says:


it still makes it difficult to accuratly plan a trip on LINK the old fashoned way with headway charts like this.


Link is not first class service just yet. They can’t even run the trains on time according to their own target and standards. I’d say publish a schedule for 10-15 minute service and leave out the peaks.

Carl says:


I’d take a schedule for 10-15 minute service and leave the peak just defined as “every 8 minutes”

Oran says:


The only improvement I see from the old site is they actually give first/last train times for each station. However, the travel time matrix has disappeared. So a step forward, two steps backward, I suppose. I’ll be writing more on Link schedules in a future post.

Another gripe about the maps: no labels for stations on Sounder/Link maps, why do I have to click on each station to find out what it’s called? Please add labels or bring back the old maps as an option.

Elbar says:


Wish there was some decent Metro service along 145th (Shoreline to Lake City) to serve the ST stops that has such great express service to Everett and Woodinville!

barman says:


Nice! Finally!

barman says:


Woah, major problem with the trip planner…

Bing maps doesn’t have a large number of ST Express routes – as Google Transit also does not. This is a big oversight…

barman says:


Nevermind, I guess the trip planner is just using Bing Map images not the actual transit data. Still, I can’t get the trip planner to work.

Mike says:


MAJOR FAIL – The main reason you have a map is because people don’t know the route numbers.
The new map makes you choose the agency first, then the route number second, otherwise you’re just staring at a blank map of the Puget Sound, including all the roads.
Way to promote transit, ‘roads by default’, and buses/trains IF you know what you’re looking for.
On a bit more picky note, check out the Metro ‘ALINE’
I can’t wait for the BLINE, CLINE, DLINE, ELINE, and best of all FLINE.

Unbelievable says:


Agree. Where the heck is the System Map?

Keibun Mori says:


Looks good in general, but I am having tough time in finding various reports (ridership report, financial documents, quarterly progress report, etc). Any help?

Oran says:


Yeah, the reports used to be very easy to find on the old site. That’s one regression. Try searching for them.

Rider Community > Rider news > Quarterly Ridership Report

About Sound Transit > Accountability > Financial documents

aw says:


I haven’t found the capital construction reports yet. There is a section for the “Transit Development Plan”, but it says “Text coming soon!”

Ironically, to get to the new site, I navigated away from the Q4 2010 report page. I also found that the calendar page doesn’t have direct links to board motions and resolution, but you can find them if you look in “Board archives”.

Keibun Mori says:


Thanks, Oran!

Joseph Singer says:


And when are they going to make a decent web site for ORCA? The present one is lacking in many ways among them an ability to get to obvious information (like what your account status is) rather than having to stumble on the way to access it (just cancel out of anything such as e-purse purchase or pass purchase.) Why should someone have to accidentally discover things like this rather than make a web site that obviously has a way to access your account. And whoever made the “wise” decision that when making a credit card purchase that you make separate boxes to enter your credit card numbers. Whoever is responsible for designing the ORCA web site did a really crappy job.

Carl says:


+1 Agree that the ORCA website is painful to navigate, takes too many steps, and is just different than virtually all web conventions. Who doesn’t like not being able to enter your 16 credit card digits without having to tab between fields.

But the problem isn’t just the website – it is also the lack of basic products like an all day pass – and the fact that agencies which provide parallel service can’t agree on a single set of fare policies. ST was a promise of “seamless” transit. The time the routes to connect, and charge the same fares, and have a consistent website and trip planner. Two sets of everything cost more to produce and make it harder for riders. That’s called lose-lose.

archie says:


To help with your comment about seeing all the alert types from one place, I’d suggest they place little yellow exclamation icons on the corners of the mode icons if an alert is active for that mode type, like how the iPhone indicates an app has a message/alert.
My nitpick: I’m always peeved when scrolling on my mouse doesn’t zoom in on the map and unnecessarily scrolls the page instead. Is this just a flag that needs to be set?

Site looks fresh and inviting–a success in my mind, thanks.

archie says:


One other comment: The drop down list for all the bus route schedules makes sense, but for the Sounder and Light Rail schedules, does there really need to be a drop down list when there are only 2 options for each one (e.g. “Sounder Everett-Seattle” and “Sounder Tacoma-Seattle”)? Drop down lists seem like overkill. Why not just list both the options as static text hyperlinks instead?

p.s. The fact that we’re making minor comments like this is probably a really good sign.

Erik G. says:


For those who want to still access the ST vehicle info, use the Way Back Machine:

http://tinyurl.com/3m3ca3d

Charles says:


Sorry to say but so far, Bing transit directions are pretty much a fail. The system was unable to deliver any solutions yesterday (with a “sorry, we’re having a problem message returning in results) and today, cannot plan a multi system trip between Seattle area and Olympia. Another deficiency is that it is incapable of recognizing a (the correct) business name as a waypoint. It will sometimes make suggestions for other places but not the business I named.

GoogleMaps can do all of that. (all though its solution for the multi-system trip left a bit to be desired but it at least made one)

I do like the soundtransit.org treatment on the schedule pages with the cross bar highlights. Now if they could only make them clickable to realtime (or psuedo realtime) info such as onebusaway.


Bing’s transit directions have nothing to do with ST’s Trip Planner. The only thing they share are the map tiles, the underlying engine is totally different. Like OneBusAway is not Google Transit.

Charles says:


Except I did get the same message when putting in the same (and others) waypoints directly in maps.bing.com.

Coincidence?


If the waypoint is an arbitrary business name, it won’t work. Since the system is essentially the original Trip Planner with an improved interface, it still only recognizes designated landmarks, like a few Costcos.

Apparently, ST thinks “Dick’s Drive In” is somewhere in Mill Creek. And it doesn’t know where “Fremont Peak Park” is. Bing correctly listed all the Dick’s locations but sent me to California for the park.

Charles says:


Bing maps (eg not ST web portal) was failing with any input the other day. I presume Bing maps is not utilizing the ATIS scheduler from Metro.

I would expect Bing to be competitively functional to Google with respect to recognizing points of interests and businesses as inputs. It has a way to go in that respect.


I found another thing that should be fixed. On the home page, the Trip Planner defaults to “Arrive By [current time]“, shouldn’t it be “Leave at [current time]“?

Mari says:


In general, I think the “Arrive by” default is slightly better than a “leave at” time, since it seems that an “arrive by” request would be a bit more urgent, like someone figuring out how to get to work or a doctor’s appt on time, regardless of when they have to leave their house.


The “Find Parking” link need some work:

. Instead of just bringing up a list of park & rides, how about a map with Park & Rides that you can zoom in on?
. Individual park & ride information is woefully inadequate – Eastgate park & ride is served by “King County Metro” and the “Route 555″ How about 556 and 554? And why can’t Sound Transit list King County Metro routes that serve that P&R?
. Bicycle parking facilities should also be listed on a map with the number and type of spaces available along with links to reserve (or to get on the waiting list for) a bike locker.

Anonymous says:


Just a reminder to everyone to please make sure you provide these comments in the “Submit Feedback” section of the new ST website – link is in the upper-right corner of each page.


The trip planner is actually usable now. The old one was simply ghastly. I’ve only taken a quick look, but my overall impression is that they have done a great job bringing the website up to very usable standards. Nice job.

bob says:


The website is super-slow (even on a PC). I couldn’t view the maps on an iPhone at all and had to CALL somebody to look up which route to take and where my stop was. All-in-all, the new site sucks.