The Puget Sound Regional Council is an intergovernmental body that conducts long range planning and, more practically, is an important player in allocating federal funds.

Last week, PSRC released their recommendations for $2.6m in FTA funds:

  • Skagit Transit’s Purchase of Replacement Vehicles, $422,000
  • Skagit Transit’s Implementation of its Mobility Management Program, $88,035
  • King County Ferry District’s Purchase of a Hybrid-Electric Passenger Ferry, $2,000,000
  • Kitsap Transit’s High Capacity Planning Integration Study of Kitsap County Land Use and Transit, $100,000

There’s not much here for most readers to get excited about, but they’re soliciting public comment at tipcomment@psrc.org.  The deadline is September 23rd but it pays to have it in by September 2nd.

15 Replies to “PSRC Recommendations for $2.6m from FTA”

  1. Why is anything that has a diesel-electric drive suddenly called hybrid? Unless the ferry has a giant bank of batteries it intends to use and shut down the engine while docked (considering it is in fact a ferry, not likely) and do some maneuvering with, I am not impressed. It merely uses a Diesel engine to spin a generator that supplies power to propeller shaft motors. Same exact thing as what railroad locomotives do. I don’t see those being tagged as hybrid all the time…

    Same with those “hybrid buses” that Metro uses…Not hybrid unless they use the batteries for moving the vehicle…Come on now!

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    1. I guess what really matters is how much more efficient over other Diesel-Electric driven boats are. It must be worth 2 mil to somebody.

    2. Metro’s buses do use their batteries for movement at times, thus they are hybrid.

      You are correct about the ferries and diesel-electric locomotives, though. There exist a few diesel-electric hybrid locomotives, but they are by no means a significant part of the diesel fleets.

      One thing to be careful about are ‘pure’ electro-diesel vehicles that can use one power source or the other. I wouldn’t be surprised if people started calling them hybrid even though they don’t use batteries for motive storage. (Ignoring the fact that one can have a diesel-electric hybrid vehicle that also has an electric pickup where applicable.)

      1. From what I have seen, Railpower’s Green Goats have fallen by the wayside to the GenSet locomotives, and so far, GE’s Evolution Hybrid has yet to find a buyer.

        Now, with a ferry boat, could a battery bank at least provide enough juice for propulsion for backing away from the dock, and cut down on the wake, and then when it is a few hundred yards away, they engage the diesel?

    3. That damn Paula Hammond! Why did she scrap the Steel-Electrics? Did she not know they were “Hybrids”??

      Shows the forward thinking that was coming out of the Bay Area, even then!

  2. I’m pretty sure that Skagit is NOT one of the PSRC counties, yet they get 2 grants for a half-million $… WTF?

    1. Found on psrc.org:

      The Transportation Policy Board recommended approval of a 2010 Adjustment of Federal Transit Administration funds, making $22.7 million in additional funds available for transportation projects in the region.

      The Board recommended these funds be awarded to 15 projects throughout the region. Four projects are new to the region and will be released for public comment with the list of projects from the Rural Town Centers and Corridors Program. The new projects are Kitsap Transit’s High Capacity Planning Integration Study, King County Ferry District’s Hybrid Electric Passenger Ferry purchase, and two projects from Skagit Transit. In March 2010, the Executive Board approved Skagit Transit’s request for its earned share of FTA funds based on the commuter services it provides to Everett. Skagit Transit’s two projects are the purchase of replacement vehicles and implementation of a mobility management program.

      1. Thanks, I thought it might be something w the commuter service. I suppose we will be giving away our $ to Island and Intercity Transit as well when they come begging.

  3. The Ferry District already has use of 2 vessels, on of which is in service approximately 8-1o hours a day, 5 days a week, the other of which is in use 12-16 hours a day about 6 months out of the year.
    An explanation is due as to why yet another $2M needs to be spent.

      1. My understand is the electric/hybrid will be used for the demo routes. I thought those were done with though….

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