Our next meetup will be more informal than the last one: no reserved space, no guest speakers. Just transit enthusiasts getting together to enjoy each others’ company.

Tuesday, February 8th, 6pm – whenever. (Being old and lame, I will probably be gone by 9:30)

Columbia City Alehouse, 4914 Rainier Ave S. Reachable by 7 and 9, with 8 and Link a few blocks away.

You must be 21 or older to attend this event.

25 Replies to “Next Meetup February 8th”

  1. Oh and the 39 as well…lol! This place is only blocks from my house and very convenient from everywhere on transit.

  2. And to continue my trend of just missing meetups, I will likely be coming back to Seattle President’s Day Weekend.

  3. “You must be 21 or older to attend this event.”

    At age 18, I’d been politically active for five years and powerfully pro-transit for fifteen. The Electroliner ran three blocks from my house. One day I asked my high school civics teacher, how I should handle citizenship at a time of life when I had all the responsibilities of citizenship but none of the rights. His answer: “Remember! And change what’s unfair when you can vote.”

    Martin, these meet-ups have been a tradition of yours since long before I knew you, and your contribution to the restoration of transit in this region entitles you to sponsor a private party wherever you want.

    You’re also a decent guy and you’ve probably never thought about this. But does it really serve the cause of public transit to schedule an event where many strong transit advocates, including legal transit-taxpaying adults, aren’t allowed in?

    What about an espresso place? Moka’s Cafe, Fairview and Harrison, is across the street from the South Lake Union carbarn, two blocks from the car-line, and right on the Route 70 (and the evening Route 71 series.) They close at 7. Could they be rented after-hours?

    Personal hang-up, maybe, like picking trolley work by choice and belief in joint rail-bus operations in the DSTT. But anything to do with transit where I wouldn’t have been allowed in in high school, and certainly in college- I don’t attend now.

    Mark Dublin

    1. When I was 18 I could legally drink wine & beer in this country. Sadly, this country treats it’s young adults like children nowadays, except when they need them to fight in a war.

    2. You must have been a pretty mature 18 year old. Most of the < 21s I know couldn't give a fig about uncool stuff like this.

      1. I’m 17 and have been very involved in politics for several years. I got a bill passed that created the Washington State Legislative Youth Advisory Council, which is composed of 22 high-school-age youth from around the state who advise the Legislature on issues of importance to youth (and many, many more apply), and I am a member of the Seattle Youth Commission, which represents the voice of Seattle’s youth to the Mayor and City Council. When you give youth opportunities to be engaged, you find that a very large number of them are interested and want to become involved. The reason why it seems like most youth don’t care is because society expects them not to care and doesn’t give them the opportunity to be involved.

      2. Excellent, that’s very impressive… but you’re still part of a minuscule fraction of your age group. The rest are too busy watching (and participating in) awful teen dramas and playing video games.

        I hope to meet you at an all-ages STB gathering in the near future.

      3. Bruce: People who are passionate about transit are a minority in all age groups. As far as I know, that’s why these meetups exist.

        I’m tired of these meetups being held almost exclusively in bars – I’m 18 and would have loved to attend the last event (or this one). That makes at least two attendees Seattle Transit Blog is missing out on.

      4. Scratch that about the last event. The “war on cars” debate yesterday, however, was held in a bar.

      5. And @Zach I hope to meet you soon too. I would echo Adam’s comments further down the thread that often adults like to hang out in bars vs cafes because they’re more casual and freewheeling and you can laugh a little loud without getting long faces from people trying to do their homework.

    3. I agree with every word in Mark’s post.

      Anyway, this is Seattle; it’s not like we have a shortage of coffee shops that are open late. :)

    4. Most of the STB meetups have been places where those under 21 could attend. The last meetup I remember that was 21+ was the last time we met at the Columbia Ale House shortly after link opened.

    5. I understand your concern. We certainly try to schedule these at places that are open to all ages. We don’t want to exclude people but our countries liquor laws are such that you always have issues like this. This is a casual meetup and no elected will be there as far as I know.

      Also I think it’s important for me to say that the first time I meet everyone in STB was at a Columbia City Alehouse meetup. If it was at a cafe I probably wouldn’t have gone. After work I would do just about anything for a nice beer. Also bars are natural environments for networking and socializing. At a restaurant you are bound to one place and several people sitting around you and can’t really drop in a chat for a bit a leave.

  4. In my experience, then and now, for very large numbers of young people, breaking the law has always made the experience of drinking more fun, and also a declaration of self-respect- often with tragic consequences. They learn alcohol-abuse in the very years they should be learning responsible use- in the company of responsible older people.

    During the Viet Nam War, this country felt decently embarrassed for a few years to send soldiers to fight who weren’t allowed to get a drink at home the night they left. In subsequent years, the drinking age was raised again, to try and cut the number of people killed in car crashes.

    So in a transit connection, it’s fair to say that this limitation on the freedom of legal adults arises precisely because US public transit is so bad that you can’t exercise the responsibilities of citizenship without a car. With a first-world transit system, the voting age and the drinking age would rapidly again become the same.

    Mark Dublin

  5. I will absolutely be there at the next one! I unfortunately will be down in PDX for an Agile Dev Conference – riding about the TriMet System. :)

    Enjoy – and hope to catch everyone at the next get together!

      1. I always try to ride services that I hope continue, so I always choose rail over busses and ETBs over diesel. I like to think that in some small way, my “vote” counts.

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