11 Replies to “Ben Franklin Transit comprehensive route restructure proposal”

  2. Hmm, do you use Chrome, or Firefox/IE? If you have your browser at high security, that might be the culprit. I tested it in incognito mode on my phone and it worked.

    1. I am using an Acer chrombook. When I try to open the link, it gives me a 404 error message. In incognito mode, the link works but I am unable to zoom in. Most likely the issue is with my chromebook, I will try on my desktop computer tomorrow, and hopefully that will work.

    1. I would be interested, except I don’t know anything about Ben Franklin Transit’s current route structure, or the city of Pasco. Plus, you don’t list the frequencies your routes would run at. Perhaps if you gave more commentary, it might prompt discussion?

    2. The map which appears to be an image is at the wrong scale. Even when zoomed in as much as it allows the routes are not detailed enough. There are no route labels. I think an interactive Google map would work much better. And a link to the current system map for comparison.

      I agree with what William C said. You need some commentary. Why are you proposing this? What’s the logic behind it? There’s not much to discuss now because I don’t even understand what you’re proposing.

      1. Oran,

        I really like your map style, but trying to use openmap and j-gis proved to be a hassle I didn’t want to continue to deal with.

        How would an interactive Google Map work? I made this map in Google Maps Engine.

        As far as frequency, what-not, I’ve got some ideas, since the whole system currently aims to run every 30 minutes weekdays, every 60 minutes saturdays, and maybe something on sundays. I’ll play around with it a bit, and see what I get.

  6. For the Pasco-Richland part of the X1, I’m not conviced that trading off coverage on Argent is worth the small travel time savings on I-182, although I like getting rid of the loop on Bradley Blvd. I’ve only taken the route during off-peak times, so I don’t know if congestion on Argent can lead to unreliability.

    While the loop around the airport looks like a nice idea, the walking distance isn’t that long from the corner of Argent and 20th and there are sidewalks. It’s an unnessesary detour for a small market when a call-a-ride service is available for those who cannot walk with their luggage.

    1. The X1 is a super express which is designed for TC to TC connections as quickly as possible. It would not make any intermediate stops, so the routing seems a little suboptimal if thought of as a regular route. I did not originally have it in the service concept, however somebody seems to think it’d be the bee’s knees (I don’t like it, it only works in a counter-clockwise direction), so I threw it in as a way to explore the idea to see if it is workable, which is why most of it is duplicated by the 160 and reimagined 120.

      You can see there’s a lot of new service concepts. I want to eventually develop a new map that is more closely related to the current funding level and service structure.

      Argent gets service from local routes in this concept. The shadow for the present rt 225 is the X2. The Argent Rd. corridor doesn’t get the ridership outside of school hours to justify its present service level. A bi-directional shuttle route I’m referring to as the 63 would travel from CBC to 100/Chapel Hill where it would then turn into the 67 to travel back to 22nd Street (funny we (the locals and transit users) have always called it 22nd Street even though its technical name is Sterl Adams 22nd Avenue TC).

      The process of serving West Pasco efficiently is very complex. Lots of fast bypass-like arterials, but the neighborhoods spin off into mazed cul-de-sacs and crescents.

      Brian Bradford
      member BFT CAC
      Kennewick, WA

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