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Paine Field Transit Map – Version 0.1


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Readers, sorry if you’re getting North by Northwested a bit much but… we’ve had an Island Transit fiscal crisis about to explode again, a need to remember there’s more to Northwest Washington Transit issues than my aviation tourism advocacy, and the news is flowing thick & fast.  That said, as promised in my intro post on Paine Transit service that I’d make a special post, I finally was able to make contact with Sam Brodland, Community Transit, Supervisor of Service Planning & Scheduling in the middle of his plans for a September Service Change to start climbing out of the Great Recession – which I appreciate.  In fact, Mr. Brodland said I was “timely” several times in our conversation.

As other Seattle Transit Blog reports have mentioned (our editor Martin H. Duke’s report, Brent White’s warning about Community Transit’s hole , and a 2010 report of Community Transit service cuts)  Community Transit got hit hard by the Great Recession.  Sunday service and holiday services were wiped out.  Also according to a Community Transit press release, “In 2010 and 2012, Community Transit cut 37 percent of its bus service and laid off 200 employees as a response to the recession’s impacts on sales tax revenue, the agency’s primary source of funding.”

As such, it’s realized Community Transit is undeserving Paine Field.  We discussed two of the locations most under served – namely The Future of Flight which is part-museum, part-store, part-HQ for Boeing Tours, part-observatory, and part-events center.   According to a PDF factsheet, Future of Flight “draws approximately 200,000 visitors per year and generates an additional $3.5 million annually of tourism spending in Snohomish County.”  There is the possibility at some point of a route adjustment to bring current Mukilteo Community Transit routes out to the Future of Flight.

Then there’s the difficult location of Flying Heritage Collection stranded at 3407 109th Street SW Everett.  That one’s going to require some serious public desire.  Currently, to reach Flying Heritage Collection requires significant hiking through industrial areas at the moment to reach from current transit services (e.g. 1.5 mile hike from the nearest Swift Stop) – not what I’d consider safe for somebody packing $500 or more in camera gear like me.  Plus such a hike would leave one a bit winded arriving at Flying Heritage Collection to walk around the exhibits.

So how do we voice that public desire folks?  Mr. Broadland recommended if we who support transit for Paine Field museums wanted to have our voices heard make sure to send an e-mail to riders-AT-commtrans-DOT-org and testify at upcoming Community Transit Board Meetings.  Those are at 09/04/14 3pm and 10/02/14 3pm at 7100 Hardeson Road.

Ultimately, to be successful: My efforts are going to need to become our efforts.  Stay tuned!

11 Replies to “North by Northwest 07: Community Transit & Rebounding Into Paine Field…”

  1. Community Transit really shouldn’t be the one picking up the tab for Paine Field, since it’s within Everett city limits. From what I’ve seen and read about past ET-CT disputes, CT is trying to keep Everett service to an absolute minimum (e.g. running routes 201 and 202 with limited stops on Broadway).

    New routes is absolutely not the priority for the next few years, until CT can restore Sunday service on core routes and higher-frequency weekday service on others.

    1. SounderBruce, some of Paine Field – like Flying Heritage Collection – is outside the Everett Transit service area. I think it’s up to US transit customers to make transit service a priority – not sit back and let “the system” decide what is a priority and what is not.

      1. The only public entrance to the inner museums are on the Everett side, hence they are ET territory. CT riders have been clamoring for service restoration since the Recession cuts began, so they are following the wishes of the customers.

  2. Transit access to the Future of Flight is certainly an issue. I have belonged to a travel discussion web site, and the lack of access is quite surprising to people from Europe who expect major tourist destinations to have some sort of transit access. The price for a paid tour including transportation is apparently quite high, and then you have to be on their schedule rather than your own schedule.

    1. Thanks much Glenn, I share those views as I don’t get how a facility that has to have peak ticketing in the summer AND in late December with 200,000 annual visitors doesn’t have a dedicated bus route. Preferably a bus route that links to Community Transit’s Swift…

      1. I’ll tell you why it doesn’t have a bus route. It’s because it’s the sort of thing that families visit, and it’s almost always nosebleed expensive for families of any size to make trips to sites like this one.

        And dirty secret or no, families with kids nearly all have cars and they use them for mini-vacation journeys like a visit to this museum.

    2. It would also be different if there were good walking routes to get there from the bus lines. However, I remember that many of the different combinations that I tried told me to walk on the shoulder of a freeway. For example, leaving downtown Seattle in the morning Google Transit will have you transfer to the 952, and have you walk on the shoulder of the Boeing Freeway.

      At least Sound Transit’s trip planner will put you on 84th, which has sidewalks.

      By the way, the Future of Flight Museum shows up in enough searches that the new Metro Transit Trip Planner features it under the museum category in the drop down menu. So it is certainly a place people are looking to go. Too bad none of the options available produce a viable route as the walking distance is too far for the new interface.

      1. Indeed Glenn, the current walking route out of Everett Transit Route 12 stop C is through a big Boeing Parking Lot and a nice trail. Cool if you want to hike, not so much if the weather stinks or you can’t hike – like if you got small kids who want to see the Future of Flight & Boeing Tour the last week in December.

        Then there’s Route 70 that doesn’t have a stop at the Future of Flight – even though it starts very close to the Sounder North station & Ferry Terminal in Mukilteo. I like you shake my head how a museum that brings international travelers to the area – most of which are transit addicts – gets no service.

        I don’t want to say too much publicly but I think we may just get some allies in this effort to rebound Community Transit & Everett Transit around more, er, urbanist & economy-friendly destinations…

      2. I’ll have to take a look at both of those and see if those are any better options than what I have looked at in the past, and what the trip planners are showing. One of these days I want to pay a full fledged visit there rather than the brief visit to the parking lot and lobby I did on my way through once two years ago.

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