16 Replies to “Sunday Open Thread: Synthetic Forests for Negative Carbon Emissions”
I guess I’m probably the only person who uses the Seattle Streetcar who is annoyed by the automated announcement that announces the stop “Broadway and Pyun.” And I’m annoyed with passengers who hit the “stop requested” strip since the Street Car will only stop at scheduled stops and always stops at all stops.
Last time I rode the SLUS (summer 2018), it did not stop at every stop. I thought it did, but we went right past my stop since there was no one at the platform and no one had hit the “stop requested” strip.
Yeah, same here. It skipped right past Westlake and 7th.
Then a couple weeks ago I was riding the First Hill Streetcar and wanted to get off at Jackson and 12th so I pushed the yellow strip which caused the operator to get on the intercom and tell me that I shouldn’t ever push the strip ever again because he always stops at all stops. That was kind of a strong reaction…..does pushing the strip cause an alert to be sent to the operator area which startles them?
The yellow strip is the stop cord: the operator was absolutely wrong to chide you. If you had pressed the emergency intercom button, then I would have understood the driver’s reaction. But even then, there’s a sign telling disabled people to use the emergency intercom to tell the driver if they need extra time to exit.
I don’t remember 100% whether the streetcar is stop-on-yellow-strip only, but I think there’s a sign saying to press it to stop so I press it if nobody else has.
VTA light rain in San Jose is stop-on-press. I’ve never seen another light rail or metro that is. That’s explainable because it has one of the lowest riderships in the US.
One interesting thing I’ve noticed about the buses in the DSTT, which has always been always-stop (you don’t have to ring the bell): even in the off-hours there’s almost always at least one person getting on/off at every station.
It’s a dialect variation. Some dialects pronounce pine “pi-yun”. They didn’t try hard enough to get a Northwest speaker, or maybe the manufacturer just used a national database. It bothers me too. I think Metro has had one or two names like that too although I can’t think of any offhand. The only one that sticks in my mind is when the 75 said “Pond Or-ee-ell Road”. It now correctly says “Pond-o-ray Road”. But that’s more of not having the pronunciation so it defaulted to the spelling, whereas “Pi-yun” is a dialect difference.
Streetcar rant … the announcement that says standing passengers should hold on to a handrail while the streetcar is in motion. It should say hold on at all times, because if you aren’t holding on when the streetcar isn’t in motion, and the operator takes off too quickly, you’ll lose your balance.
Streetcar rave … Announcement “doors to the left.” Link says doors to my left. That is incorrect. Link should say doors to the left, like the streetcar does. The left makes sense, my left doesn’t.
Sam. Announcement critic.
It could be worse. In Chicago the el says, “In the direction of travel, doors open on the left.” Too verbose. In Moscow and St Petersburg the metro just says, “Doors left’ (dvyeri sprava). But Chicago has the best stop announcements, just the one-word street name: “Cicero”, “Paulina”, “Belmont”, “Jefferson Park”.
It’s always amusing when the recording says, “Doors to my left.” Where is the disembodied voice coming from and what is her left? It assumes we should equate her left with the driver’s left, but why should we? Or are we supposed to assume she is the train, speaking for the train’s face (otherwise known as its front end).
Haven’t you seen Thomas the Tank Engine?
Oops, “Dvyeri sprava” means doors right. That’s what I usually heard. Doors left is “Dvyeri lyeva”.
I’ve heard of Thomas the Tank Engine in “Johnny and the Bomb” but I’ve never seen it.
At least they don’t announce the station corporate sponsors at each station like Portland used to.
This is actually the “fixed” version. When the First Hill streetcar started, the announcements were even worse (“Broadway and Maaaaarion”). They should just use the Metro voice, and get them to do it which would have the added bonus of the stops being ultra-correct–“Broadway and Yesler” should be “E Yesler Way and Broadway”: correct directionals, and you put the road you’re on first.
Here on the Eastside, it’s just the opposite. Whoever input the street names into the stop announcement program, put in directionals that don’t exist. It’s not “Redmond Way Northeast,” it’s just Redmond Way. It doesn’t say NE on street signs, maps, or any other official documents. But some dope at Metro decided on his own that a “northeast” was needed at the end of the street name.
Does anyone know where to find the cost estimates and feature sets of stations in ST3 that were moved to the Future Infill category?
FYI HB1793, which would allow Seattle to use traffic cameras for other transit uses, is back from the dead. It missed the House cutoff last month, but was just brought back to the House floor.
There is a chain link fence between the IDS patforms. Is that for East Link Construction? I saw the poles go up a while ago but didn’t notice the fence until today.
I guess I’m probably the only person who uses the Seattle Streetcar who is annoyed by the automated announcement that announces the stop “Broadway and Pyun.” And I’m annoyed with passengers who hit the “stop requested” strip since the Street Car will only stop at scheduled stops and always stops at all stops.
Last time I rode the SLUS (summer 2018), it did not stop at every stop. I thought it did, but we went right past my stop since there was no one at the platform and no one had hit the “stop requested” strip.
Yeah, same here. It skipped right past Westlake and 7th.
Then a couple weeks ago I was riding the First Hill Streetcar and wanted to get off at Jackson and 12th so I pushed the yellow strip which caused the operator to get on the intercom and tell me that I shouldn’t ever push the strip ever again because he always stops at all stops. That was kind of a strong reaction…..does pushing the strip cause an alert to be sent to the operator area which startles them?
The yellow strip is the stop cord: the operator was absolutely wrong to chide you. If you had pressed the emergency intercom button, then I would have understood the driver’s reaction. But even then, there’s a sign telling disabled people to use the emergency intercom to tell the driver if they need extra time to exit.
I don’t remember 100% whether the streetcar is stop-on-yellow-strip only, but I think there’s a sign saying to press it to stop so I press it if nobody else has.
VTA light rain in San Jose is stop-on-press. I’ve never seen another light rail or metro that is. That’s explainable because it has one of the lowest riderships in the US.
One interesting thing I’ve noticed about the buses in the DSTT, which has always been always-stop (you don’t have to ring the bell): even in the off-hours there’s almost always at least one person getting on/off at every station.
It’s a dialect variation. Some dialects pronounce pine “pi-yun”. They didn’t try hard enough to get a Northwest speaker, or maybe the manufacturer just used a national database. It bothers me too. I think Metro has had one or two names like that too although I can’t think of any offhand. The only one that sticks in my mind is when the 75 said “Pond Or-ee-ell Road”. It now correctly says “Pond-o-ray Road”. But that’s more of not having the pronunciation so it defaulted to the spelling, whereas “Pi-yun” is a dialect difference.
Streetcar rant … the announcement that says standing passengers should hold on to a handrail while the streetcar is in motion. It should say hold on at all times, because if you aren’t holding on when the streetcar isn’t in motion, and the operator takes off too quickly, you’ll lose your balance.
Streetcar rave … Announcement “doors to the left.” Link says doors to my left. That is incorrect. Link should say doors to the left, like the streetcar does. The left makes sense, my left doesn’t.
Sam. Announcement critic.
It could be worse. In Chicago the el says, “In the direction of travel, doors open on the left.” Too verbose. In Moscow and St Petersburg the metro just says, “Doors left’ (dvyeri sprava). But Chicago has the best stop announcements, just the one-word street name: “Cicero”, “Paulina”, “Belmont”, “Jefferson Park”.
It’s always amusing when the recording says, “Doors to my left.” Where is the disembodied voice coming from and what is her left? It assumes we should equate her left with the driver’s left, but why should we? Or are we supposed to assume she is the train, speaking for the train’s face (otherwise known as its front end).
Haven’t you seen Thomas the Tank Engine?
Oops, “Dvyeri sprava” means doors right. That’s what I usually heard. Doors left is “Dvyeri lyeva”.
I’ve heard of Thomas the Tank Engine in “Johnny and the Bomb” but I’ve never seen it.
At least they don’t announce the station corporate sponsors at each station like Portland used to.
This is actually the “fixed” version. When the First Hill streetcar started, the announcements were even worse (“Broadway and Maaaaarion”). They should just use the Metro voice, and get them to do it which would have the added bonus of the stops being ultra-correct–“Broadway and Yesler” should be “E Yesler Way and Broadway”: correct directionals, and you put the road you’re on first.
Here on the Eastside, it’s just the opposite. Whoever input the street names into the stop announcement program, put in directionals that don’t exist. It’s not “Redmond Way Northeast,” it’s just Redmond Way. It doesn’t say NE on street signs, maps, or any other official documents. But some dope at Metro decided on his own that a “northeast” was needed at the end of the street name.
Does anyone know where to find the cost estimates and feature sets of stations in ST3 that were moved to the Future Infill category?
FYI HB1793, which would allow Seattle to use traffic cameras for other transit uses, is back from the dead. It missed the House cutoff last month, but was just brought back to the House floor.
Bill info at https://seattletransitblog.wpcomstaging.com/2019/03/12/two-key-climate-transit-bills-face-wednesday-deadline/ and https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?billNumber=1793&year=2019&initiative=False
There is a chain link fence between the IDS patforms. Is that for East Link Construction? I saw the poles go up a while ago but didn’t notice the fence until today.