Via Move All Seattle Sustainably (MASS):

We think the City needs to be more ambitious about prioritizing public transit on our roads. Buses carrying scores of riders shouldn’t get stuck behind a sea of single-occupancy vehicles! Last December MASS published a vision for bus priority in Seattle, including 20 stretches where we think dedicated lanes and/or signal priority can speed the trips of many thousands of people.

The City Council’s Sustainability and Transportation Committee will meet tomorrow at 2pm to discuss RapidRide progress. Testify or learn more about how to support this effort at the link.

Sustainability & Transportation Committee
Seattle City Hall
Tuesday May 7, 2-3pm

18 Replies to “Testify for Faster Buses at City Council Tomorrow”

  1. They could start by not making BAT lanes peak only one direction in mornings and evenings. Specifically when you’re stuck in a bus trying to merge out of a BAT lane at 5:30 PM on 15th Ave trying to get downtown. Merging because the lane is peak only in the morning not evening and so they instead reserve it for 6 cars to be parked.

    They need to fix that peak only BAT lanes that end up as free parking at rush hour. Heck even letting it be used as a GP lane is better.

    1. This is really disgusting that our city is making it increasingly difficult for small business’s to operate. Bus lanes suck! I went to NYC and spent over a week there. They don’t need these lanes, and they move ALOT more people all across the city.

      Metro takes way too much in $$$ to run, we are constantly “giving money” to Metro because they claim they can’t survive on the income they reap from riders, and then they take lanes away, which adversely effects the small businesses that rely on delivering goods and services via Vehicles to make money.

      I think traffic has gotten exponentially worse with allowing the additional “uber” and “lift” vehicles on the road – and we should ban that from the city before we take away lanes from the pre-existing businesses that compete with Amazon who has also added to our traffic problems GREATLY.

      Our city is relying far too much on more taxes and accommodating a bus system that has to rely on Sound Transit for part of the business related expenses – i.e. computers for administrative staff – rather than eliminating the high paid staff at Metro to relieve some of there cash flow problems AND looking at controlling the amount of “new” independent businesses like “uber” and “lift”.

      1. @Ness

        Is there something wrong with a different opinion? That’s how solutions are found, using different viewpoints and experiences to come up with a solution. Living in an echo chamber is how we get nowhere which is where we often get.

        Ease up, you may learn something from the experiences of others.

      2. normal people: bus lanes are good, they help the bus system move more people more efficiently
        this guy: abolish metro
        GK: hold on, we can reach a compromise

      3. Not a troll. Makes a good point of TNCs driving congestion.

        As for the comp to NY, MTA bus ridership is declining, while Seattle’s is rising. Street speeds for all vehicles – bus and car- in Manhattan are among the slowest in the world during rush hour.
        https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/08/06/anatomy-of-a-busted-bus-lane/

        The Big Apple works because their rail system (commuter & subway) move the vast majority of people in & out of their business districts every day. But, NYC’s streets are still gridlocked and suffer the same problems Seattle’s does about allocation of street space.

      4. Yes, this is a troll.

        Bus lanes suck! Followed by a bunch of nonsense. None of these inane ramblings are based in reality.

        What do small businesses have to do with bus lanes? Oh right, ‘small business’ sounds less selfish than ‘me or I.’ Most of the SOVs clogging the bus lanes are people going to work for big businesses. Small businesses can still use the general purpose lanes just like everyone else. Bus lanes should have a neutral (thanks induced demand) or slightly positive affect on ‘small business deliveries’ (what a thing to concern troll!) as more SOV drivers switch to taking the bus because it is faster and more reliable.

        “Metro takes way too much in $$$ to run, we are constantly “giving money” to Metro because they claim they can’t survive on the income they reap from riders”
        Nothing is more subsidized than the SOV driver. We are constantly “giving money” to SDOT because they claim they can’t pave the streets on the income they reap from drivers.

        “before we take away lanes from the pre-existing businesses”
        I didn’t realize there were lanes dedicated to small business use only.
        “Amazon who has also added to our traffic problems GREATLY”
        Why do Amazon employees get singled out?

        What do Uber and Lyft have to do with bus lanes? Oh right, they have a negative connotation so good to lump them in as if they are somehow relevant to bus lanes.

        Tl;dr: Old man yells at clouds ALOT!

      5. @GK

        You assume I’m not deluged with Libertarian and Republican arguments for drowning government in the bathtub and privatizing the remains so workers can be exploited even more daily. I cut my political teeth in Idaho, as well. I’m well aware of their theories and how badly they fall apart when you point out that capitalists historically do not play fair or allow a level playing field, but pull every trick in the book to squeeze another buck out of everything. I’ve literally seen and heard it all.

  2. Anyone who pays attention knows that buses are far more likely to be stuck behind other buses but that doesn’t fit the urbanist claptrap narrative

    1. Frank,

      Is it possible to get a “Block” capability on the blog. Almost every other system has one, so I bet that WordPress does too. I don’t want to read about “urbanist claptrap”.

    2. If the two buses are the same route, that’s called bus bunching and it’s caused by car congestion. If they’re on different routes, well it must be Third Avenue because no other street has that many buses.

      1. The U-district has places where buses do get delayed by other buses, due to poorly designed interactions between bus stops at stoplights.

        Northbound 15th Ave. at Campus Parkway is one. I’ve had many times when we approach this stop, only to be stuck by a bus already serving it. When the bus is ready to start moving, the light turns red, so that bus remains blocking the stop, until the light changes. Then, the light back at 40th is red, so we have to wait for that one, before finally proceeding to the stop.

        A few times, we’ve sat at that intersection for as long as 5-10 minutes while by bus was number 3 or 4 in line, while all the cars got to just pass right on through in the other lane, with no delays, whatsoever.

        Southbound Montlake approaching 520 is another example. Again, the combination of long light cycles, a bus stop right before a traffic light, multiple bus routes converging there, and a bus stop zone that’s only long enough to hold one bus, means long bus delays, while the people driving cars get to breeze on through, completely oblivious.

      2. That isn’t quite true Mike. All it takes is a wheelchair to get busses bunched. Happens daily.

    3. Come on, man, that’s ridiculous. Just look at our slowest buses. The 44 and 8 come to mind. For the most part, they are the only buses on their route. Do you really think that the big problem with the 44 is that some other 44 — scheduled to run 10 minutes prior — is blocking it? Don’t be silly. The problem with the 44 — the reason it is so god-awful slow that some people just abandon it and walk — is because it is stuck in traffic. Only a driving ignoramus (which you probably aren’t) would drive on 45th from the UW to Market. Everyone else just uses 50th. But because the purpose of the 44 is to actually pick up people along the way, it is stuck with its route.

      In contrast, consider the E. You will often see the E stuck behind another bus, downtown. But despite the E routinely being delayed by other buses, the E moves way faster than the 44 or 8. That is because it has so much in the way of bus lanes. Of course it could be better (and should be better) but the contrast is striking. Buses being delayed by other buses are typically not a problem. Buses being delayed by cars is.

      Oh, and bus bunching — especially on the same route — is caused by delays of the first bus. A bus leaves at 10:00 AM, expecting to get to the end of its route at 10:30. But delays cause it to be 15 minutes late. As it nears the end of the line, the second bus (traveling on schedule) catches up to it, and the buses are bunched. It is the delay that causes the bus bunching, and quite often the delay is caused by general purpose traffic.

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