2 Replies to “Podcast #40: The Trouble with Paris”

  1. To be clear, DEIS Option 1 (no action) means we don’t do HALA at all, we don’t do any upzones, and the upzones we just did (u-district and downtown) are rescinded?

  2. 3rd & Pine has always been sketchy, at least since the 1970s. In the early 80s 1st Ave was full of prostitutes, as well as the Ballard and West Seattle buses. Then the police made the prostitutes disperse, and later the buses were moved to 3rd. Third may have more sketchy people now, I’m not sure, but if do it’s a difference of quantity, not quality. I was in high school in the early 80s and my bus was on 2nd. I remember my friend who loved on Queen Anne, when we were going from Seattle Center to my bus, saying, “I’m not walking down 2nd Avenue after dark.” That surprised me because it wasn’t 1st and I had never had any problems (except once waiting for the hourly bus) and there were hardly any pedestrians on 2nd. But some people felt all of 1st through 3rd was unsafe.

    I don’t understand why sketchy people stick around McDonald’s and Macy’s so persistently but they do. Five years ago they renovated 3rd between Pike And Pine and it would supposedly improve the situation, but they seem to have done hardly anything and now it’s back to the way it was.

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